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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mannahnin" data-source="post: 8705490" data-attributes="member: 7026594">Great scenario, thank you.I am envisioning this as best I can, in context with the invisibility and hiding rules, and in context of my own background with combat sports, archery, fencing and wrestling.As I picture it, the "slow and careful" method would take several seconds, and would be an action rather than an item interaction.  And to do it quickly and desperately would need some sort of roll or be likely to reveal your position, due to sound made during your hasty action.  The feelings of wind pressure on my body and much narrower bow from a given direction and some discrete force pressing just on the end of my bow are, physically, totally dissimilar.I note we're also talking about standing in front of a shooter but accepting that there is no chance that the archer inadvertently shoots the invisible person.  Which would likely be a real risk, especially if the archer is tracking a moving target behind the invisible character, who can't see the target behind himself.  I accept that there's no chance of that, given the game's inherent assumption that invisible characters are deliberately staying out of such firing paths.Remember that to hide requires an action, and to remain hidden requires an ongoing effort at stealth.  Physically interfering with people in detectable ways is going to make them aware of you.   <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷‍♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging    :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" />Let's think also about the wider context.  What are the likely repercussions or other applications of ruling that an invisible character can easily physically interact with another character or their equipment?  Will an invisible bad guy be able to pickpocket a character's belt pouch without any rolls? Can they remove a weapon from his sheath, or arrows from his quiver?  Are these things the players want to see happen in the campaign?</blockquote>

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