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<blockquote data-quote="mellack" data-source="post: 4370321" data-attributes="member: 72422">I would like to point out that a similar situation can come about, with no action on the part of the paladin at all.&nbsp; Take this as an example:&nbsp;The party comes upon the Big Bad Guy.&nbsp; The paladin wins initiative, moves up, attacks, and puts on a Divine Challenge on the BBG.&nbsp;&nbsp; Next, the rogue does a Blinding Barrage, making the BBG blind until the end of the rogue's next turn.&nbsp; Then the warlock notices that due to the way the room is, the fighter will not have room to engage the BBG in melee.&nbsp; So the warlock does a Summons of Khirad to teleport the BBG next to the warrior.&nbsp; The BBG did not see this teleport, and would probably not have much of an idea of his position in relation to any of the PC's.&nbsp; &nbsp;This (admitidly unlikely) situation has now made the paladin effectively invisible, along with everyone else.&nbsp; The BBG has no idea where he is, as he could not see his teleport.&nbsp; Do people think this is an unhonorable act by the paladin?&nbsp; Is he expected to direct the BBG to where he is so that he can swing in the proper direction?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mellack, post: 4370321, member: 72422"] I would like to point out that a similar situation can come about, with no action on the part of the paladin at all. Take this as an example: The party comes upon the Big Bad Guy. The paladin wins initiative, moves up, attacks, and puts on a Divine Challenge on the BBG. Next, the rogue does a Blinding Barrage, making the BBG blind until the end of the rogue's next turn. Then the warlock notices that due to the way the room is, the fighter will not have room to engage the BBG in melee. So the warlock does a Summons of Khirad to teleport the BBG next to the warrior. The BBG did not see this teleport, and would probably not have much of an idea of his position in relation to any of the PC's. This (admitidly unlikely) situation has now made the paladin effectively invisible, along with everyone else. The BBG has no idea where he is, as he could not see his teleport. Do people think this is an unhonorable act by the paladin? Is he expected to direct the BBG to where he is so that he can swing in the proper direction? [/QUOTE]

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