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<blockquote data-quote="Snowy" data-source="post: 2975165" data-attributes="member: 20465">Am I wrong using the estimation that a party of 5 4th level characters is approximately the same effectivness as a party of 4 5th level characters.someone on enworld proposed a power level method of estimating encounters level time number or characters then divide by 4.Higher level spells distort it but then do number of actions a round.I was roughly, very roughly, thinking about effective party level 5 and attempting to drop the CR to 6 hence the loss of reach and reduced slam damage and what I thought was lowering the AC&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek!&nbsp; &nbsp; :o"&nbsp; data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" /> Anyone got a better method of estimation?edited section below:Hopefully I explained how I got the IS to the material plane in my previous post.The party is not desperately weak I don't think, obviously they're not all dwarven clerics, but they're not that bad. They do lack a full caster, the druid is a recent addition. As I think of it I have An archer2 fighters that can heal and have some skillsa druida bardI have limited the party to elves and to little metal available - I have allowed darkwood and dark leaf from arms and equipment. The party is probably a little under equiped right now but not by far.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Snowy, post: 2975165, member: 20465"] Am I wrong using the estimation that a party of 5 4th level characters is approximately the same effectivness as a party of 4 5th level characters. someone on enworld proposed a power level method of estimating encounters level time number or characters then divide by 4. Higher level spells distort it but then do number of actions a round. I was roughly, very roughly, thinking about effective party level 5 and attempting to drop the CR to 6 hence the loss of reach and reduced slam damage and what I thought was lowering the AC :o Anyone got a better method of estimation? edited section below: Hopefully I explained how I got the IS to the material plane in my previous post. The party is not desperately weak I don't think, obviously they're not all dwarven clerics, but they're not that bad. They do lack a full caster, the druid is a recent addition. As I think of it I have An archer 2 fighters that can heal and have some skills a druid a bard I have limited the party to elves and to little metal available - I have allowed darkwood and dark leaf from arms and equipment. The party is probably a little under equiped right now but not by far. [/QUOTE]

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