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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Silverglass" data-source="post: 1141483" data-attributes="member: 14071">No if A and X are visible B is in trouble as both A and B get a benefit from the position of the other.If X is invisible B is in trouble, he is just in a different sort of trouble in that A is no more dangerous than if X wasn't there but X is more dangerous than if he was visible.Is +2 to hit and can suffer sneak attack from 2 opponents better or worse than +4 to hit, denied dex and can suffer sneak attack from one opponent and +0 to hit from the other?The correct answer is better if both A and X are both rogues and they have a high chance of hitting with every attack, but worse if only X is a rogue or their chance of getting a hit is low (e.g. if A and X would normally need to roll a 19 to hit then with flanking thats 2 20% chances of a hit with senak attack, with X invisible its a 10% chance of a standard hit from A and a 30% chance of a hit from B with sneak attack unless B has an 18 DEX in which case its a 50% chance).As a generalisation B is not in less trouble if X is invisible as in MOST situations involving similar CR opponents he is likely to be hit as often/more often by an invisible X, and A is never worse off than they would be fighting B, they just miss out on a bonus.</blockquote>