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<blockquote data-quote="Eldritch" data-source="post: 453306" data-attributes="member: 2742"><p>Maybe I am missing something, but the original question here was could you use rapid shot feat while invisible to damage 2 (or more) opponents and still get sneak attack damage. </p><p></p><p>My read on this is a big NO. And here is why (and it is completely different from the other posts) - If you attack while invisible and your opponents are not aware of you they are supprised. Pg 120-121 of PHB. If one side of an encounter is supprised there is a "Supprise round" which grants a PARTIAL action to the hidden party. </p><p></p><p>Rapid Shot feat can only be used if you take advantage of the Full Attack Action and the last time I checked you can't use a Full Attack Action during a Partial Action. </p><p></p><p>So, If you attack from hiding you can get off one attack. If you were Hasted (not in the original Scenario) you could get an additional partial action and make a second attack, which IMO as a DM I would rule that the supprised party could not react in time to regain their Dex bonus to AC and would therefore be subject to Sneak Attack damage.</p><p></p><p>At the start of the next round you would role initiative and the supprised combatants would still be flat-footed until their initiative. Meaning a highly dextrous Rogue with a good initiative bonus could probably get off yet another sneak attack (this time using the Rapid Shot Feat per the Full Attack Action) before the hapless victims could react.</p><p></p><p>Btw - I would rule the Invisibility drops after the first shot is made. But for the purpose of determining sneak attack damage it doesn't matter, it is only critical if someone were to get an attack off before the invisibility drops. Also all of this is supposing that the victims in this scenario did not spot the invisible Rogue to begin with, thereby eliminating the whole suprise idea.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Eldritch, post: 453306, member: 2742"] Maybe I am missing something, but the original question here was could you use rapid shot feat while invisible to damage 2 (or more) opponents and still get sneak attack damage. My read on this is a big NO. And here is why (and it is completely different from the other posts) - If you attack while invisible and your opponents are not aware of you they are supprised. Pg 120-121 of PHB. If one side of an encounter is supprised there is a "Supprise round" which grants a PARTIAL action to the hidden party. Rapid Shot feat can only be used if you take advantage of the Full Attack Action and the last time I checked you can't use a Full Attack Action during a Partial Action. So, If you attack from hiding you can get off one attack. If you were Hasted (not in the original Scenario) you could get an additional partial action and make a second attack, which IMO as a DM I would rule that the supprised party could not react in time to regain their Dex bonus to AC and would therefore be subject to Sneak Attack damage. At the start of the next round you would role initiative and the supprised combatants would still be flat-footed until their initiative. Meaning a highly dextrous Rogue with a good initiative bonus could probably get off yet another sneak attack (this time using the Rapid Shot Feat per the Full Attack Action) before the hapless victims could react. Btw - I would rule the Invisibility drops after the first shot is made. But for the purpose of determining sneak attack damage it doesn't matter, it is only critical if someone were to get an attack off before the invisibility drops. Also all of this is supposing that the victims in this scenario did not spot the invisible Rogue to begin with, thereby eliminating the whole suprise idea. [/QUOTE]
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