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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 453344" data-attributes="member: 3146">I was quoting imprecisely. Howevery, the meaning is the same if I quote precisely as I shall demonstrate.The smite evil ability from the 2nd edition PH p42: &quot;Once per day, a paladin of 2nd level or higher may attempt to smite evil with one normal melee attack. She adds her Charisma modifier (if positive to her attack roll and deals 1 extra point of damage per level.&quot; Note that &quot;one normal melee attack&quot; is different from &quot;one single attack roll&quot; which is what you're trying to make this out to be. The dilemma still stands: either an invisible paladin who smites evil on her primary attack in a full attack sequence has finished making &quot;one normal melee attack&quot; or she hasn't. If she has, then she has finished making &quot;an attack&quot; and ought to be visible. If she hasn't finished making &quot;one normal melee attack&quot; then she hasn't finished making &quot;an attack&quot; and gets to remain invisible until she finishes--but she also gets to apply her smite bonusses to all attack rolls until she finishes that &quot;one normal attack.&quot;I'm well aware that the smite evil ability pretty clearly implies (although it doesn't state it explicitly) that it only works on a single attack roll. Invisibility also very clearly implies the same thing--your opinion and the Sage's notwithstanding. PH p.218 &quot;If the subject attacks directly, however, it immediately becomes visible along with all its gear.&quot;Considering the similarity of Insivibility's wording, I'm arguing that Invisibility ought to work the same way as Smite Evil--not that Smite Evil ought to apply to every attack in a full attack action.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 453344, member: 3146"] I was quoting imprecisely. Howevery, the meaning is the same if I quote precisely as I shall demonstrate. [B][/B] The smite evil ability from the 2nd edition PH p42: "Once per day, a paladin of 2nd level or higher may attempt to smite evil with one normal melee attack. She adds her Charisma modifier (if positive to her attack roll and deals 1 extra point of damage per level." Note that "one normal melee attack" is different from "one single attack roll" which is what you're trying to make this out to be. The dilemma still stands: either an invisible paladin who smites evil on her primary attack in a full attack sequence has finished making "one normal melee attack" or she hasn't. If she has, then she has finished making "an attack" and ought to be visible. If she hasn't finished making "one normal melee attack" then she hasn't finished making "an attack" and gets to remain invisible until she finishes--but she also gets to apply her smite bonusses to all attack rolls until she finishes that "one normal attack." I'm well aware that the smite evil ability pretty clearly implies (although it doesn't state it explicitly) that it only works on a single attack roll. Invisibility also very clearly implies the same thing--your opinion and the Sage's notwithstanding. PH p.218 "If the subject attacks directly, however, it immediately becomes visible along with all its gear." Considering the similarity of Insivibility's wording, I'm arguing that Invisibility ought to work the same way as Smite Evil--not that Smite Evil ought to apply to every attack in a full attack action. [/QUOTE]

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