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Involuntary movement = AoO?
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<blockquote data-quote="Corwin" data-source="post: 375710" data-attributes="member: 1560"><p>We've had the same problem. My monk has Great Throw and we can't seem to find anything to point us in the direction of what the "official" rules should allow.</p><p></p><p>For now, we are taking the side of discretion and not allowing it. My take was that it is really just a Trip Attack with special extra goodies tossed in. Since a regular Trip doesn't provoke an AoO on the falling target, I don't think Great Throw should either. I mean, it's bad enough the poor victim takes your damage <strong>and</strong> falls prone, but to allow the rogue to sneak in a dozen d6's, on the way down, is just plain rude. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Since a Bull Rush doesn't do any actual damage, it seems a bit less of a stretch to allow someone else to get a swing in on them as they pass by.</p><p></p><p>I would probably allow AoOs on someone slipping down an incline. They are basically scrambling past you, so yes.</p><p></p><p>Falling past is technically no different. Though if the target were falling anywhere near fast, I'd probably ad-hoc something to take into consideration the difficulty in timing the swing (or whatever) to hit. Either a Reflex save to get the attack off right, or maybe just a penalty to hit for very fast movement. I dunno, it just seems like the right thing to do.</p><p></p><p>But that's all just IMO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Corwin, post: 375710, member: 1560"] We've had the same problem. My monk has Great Throw and we can't seem to find anything to point us in the direction of what the "official" rules should allow. For now, we are taking the side of discretion and not allowing it. My take was that it is really just a Trip Attack with special extra goodies tossed in. Since a regular Trip doesn't provoke an AoO on the falling target, I don't think Great Throw should either. I mean, it's bad enough the poor victim takes your damage [b]and[/b] falls prone, but to allow the rogue to sneak in a dozen d6's, on the way down, is just plain rude. ;) Since a Bull Rush doesn't do any actual damage, it seems a bit less of a stretch to allow someone else to get a swing in on them as they pass by. I would probably allow AoOs on someone slipping down an incline. They are basically scrambling past you, so yes. Falling past is technically no different. Though if the target were falling anywhere near fast, I'd probably ad-hoc something to take into consideration the difficulty in timing the swing (or whatever) to hit. Either a Reflex save to get the attack off right, or maybe just a penalty to hit for very fast movement. I dunno, it just seems like the right thing to do. But that's all just IMO. [/QUOTE]
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