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<blockquote data-quote="James Heard" data-source="post: 1948912" data-attributes="member: 7280">I'm wondering if Edena's proposal for infiltration means that the infiltrator factions are effectively neutered if the alliance grows too large?I mean, if infiltration means war and you can't infiltrate your allies - and your enemies are mostly massed in another great alliance promising war, and probably also with a similar notion...Gnomish merchants spread the word to every nation they can find:&quot;Aestia remains apart from the affairs of the great nations and organizations of Oerth. We shall remain free and apart. We wish no alliance, nor warfare, but we shall engage in bloody retribution of great consequences upon those that would trespass upon our neutrality. We open our mighty civic centers and hotels for meetings on neutral ground. We wish to announce our interest in trade and other capitalistic endeavors. We shall defend our borders and maintain ourselves, taking any and all possible steps to stress upon the world our independence. When you engage in your vengeances upon each other, know that we have taken no part in instigating them. Do not mistake our peace for peacefulness, nor our open arms for an embrace. We shall trade for relief to war strained areas. Do not interefere with our chirugeons. We shall trade with who we wish to trade with. Do not blockade or stop Aestian vessels. We are our own conference and conscience, we need no other. Please shop at NugMart, where you can find iron spikes at the the cheapest prices anywhere!&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="James Heard, post: 1948912, member: 7280"] I'm wondering if Edena's proposal for infiltration means that the infiltrator factions are effectively neutered if the alliance grows too large? I mean, if infiltration means war and you can't infiltrate your allies - and your enemies are mostly massed in another great alliance promising war, and probably also with a similar notion... Gnomish merchants spread the word to every nation they can find: "Aestia remains apart from the affairs of the great nations and organizations of Oerth. We shall remain free and apart. We wish no alliance, nor warfare, but we shall engage in bloody retribution of great consequences upon those that would trespass upon our neutrality. We open our mighty civic centers and hotels for meetings on neutral ground. We wish to announce our interest in trade and other capitalistic endeavors. We shall defend our borders and maintain ourselves, taking any and all possible steps to stress upon the world our independence. When you engage in your vengeances upon each other, know that we have taken no part in instigating them. Do not mistake our peace for peacefulness, nor our open arms for an embrace. We shall trade for relief to war strained areas. Do not interefere with our chirugeons. We shall trade with who we wish to trade with. Do not blockade or stop Aestian vessels. We are our own conference and conscience, we need no other. Please shop at NugMart, where you can find iron spikes at the the cheapest prices anywhere!" [/QUOTE]

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