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<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 1302667" data-attributes="member: 2020">(Post 6)&nbsp; Thread One of the 1st IRBlood Jester&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-09-2001 11:44 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [OOC - Damn! Work has put me way behind here!]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; O.K. I disagree with a few results/calls here (especially the overlooking of the fact that Psionics would be just&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; as crippled as magic for one month) but, oh well.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The recovery of the techs is overrated, it is not that they couldn't eventually have built these things better, it&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; is that they didn't because they started to rely on magic instead of developing their technology along the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; proper lines. The irony is that the Technos downfall was their dependence on magic, and lack of faith in the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; superiority of their technology.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Here are my attack choices; in situations where the Illithids took over other Cities, our goals are elimination&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; of the Illithids, are freeing the cities in question (the acceptable cost varies, but usually the goal is to&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; preserve the conquered)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1st group)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1-The Drow of the Underdark &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 2-The Phaerimm of Anauroch &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 3-The Illithid Nation&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 4&amp;5-The top two nations supporting the Technomancy army&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 2nd group)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1-Zhentil Keep &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 2345-The next four nations supporting the Technomancy army&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 3rd group)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1-Halruaa &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 2-Candlekeep &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 3-Nimbral &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 4-Myth Drannor &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 5-(Held in reserve to support efforts where needed.)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Still a slave to work, will comment as able.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Blood Jester&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; P.S. - Elven skill with a bow, and ability to sneak in and out of places is not affected by the loss of magic.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Skills are like that.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-09-2001 11:44 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Um, in case you couldn't tell, the humanoids are holding back until a Technomancy representative logs in . .&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; . Shees!&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; TheBalor&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-09-2001 11:46 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Damnit, where are they all?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ------------------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; If history is to change,let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If it is my destiny to die, then I&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; must simply laugh.-The Magus&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena_of_Neith&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-09-2001 11:47 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Now wait a minute.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; A grand alliance of the Technomancers, humanoids, elves, and dwarves against the illithid is not possible&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; when:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The humanoids are currently (and frantically) trying to destroy elven Evereska.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).]&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; johnbrown&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-09-2001 11:59 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Sorry for the interruption, but I would just like to say that this one great thread. If you put this all in a novel&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I sure would buy it. &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-09-2001 11:59 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I don't know how much time has passed since the Month of Terror, Edena, but I want to point out that I did&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; say we took their technology and have been working on it ourselves (our kobold sorcerer/engineers, that is).&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; So to be honest, while the technomancers would be very helpful, I'm not sure that (given our numbers) we&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; absolutely need them to take Everseka or whatever the hell elf-land that was. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Not that we won't wait for help if we need it, of course -- just want to point out that WE are no longer a bunch&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; of dumb humanoids with pointy sticks. We've got the tech and we've got the manpower. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Picture China with U.S. technology. A Billion strong. Hell yeah. &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena_of_Neith&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 12:04 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (To John Brown)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Thank you.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Although heaven knows where this will end up!&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I repeat: the elves will NOT ally with the humanoids when the humanoids are trying to destroy their&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; MILlENNIA old civilization of Evereska.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Not ally with them against the illithid, or anyone else.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).]&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Blood Jester&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 12:04 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Whoa! Way too much changed while I was typing!&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; -The Dwaves were (attempted to be) recruited quite a while ago.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; -Everyone involved in casting the spell gave their lives doing it (stated at the time of casting).&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; -They will not get the Queen, nor military commanders not even involved in the decision to cast the spell, if&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the Dwarves have any honor, they would not even ask this, and if they do the Elves refuse. The mage coucil&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; will take the blame for The Queen, and those few who live will stand trial if necessary. But the Queen is off&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; limits.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; -Had the Dwarves had the courage to come stand with us in the fray instead of hiding in their burrows, this&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; could have all been avoided, so...&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; -If they insist on holding trials, we demand their cowardly military leaders stand trial in our courts for their&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; crimes against the Elves. Their failure having caused the needless deaths of thousands of our people.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Blood Jester&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 12:09 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; That's MUCH more like what I'd think would happen . . . &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Now, then. The dwarves have been spurned. And they hate the elves. And the humanoids didn't target them&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; one BIT.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; So how about it, dwarves? 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(and everyone&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; knows about dwarven stubborness)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Isolated forays against the illithid? Yes.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; A full scale effort? Not at all.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The dwarves, outraged, point out that the elves wrecked their magic and their darksight, and never&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; consulted them about it (they would never have agreed to such a thing in any case.)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Many dwarves died as a result of that elven spell, the dwarves claim. And many more fell sick, and much of&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the food supply was ruined.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The dwarves think it only reasonable that those responsible for the blood of innocent dwarven lives be held&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; accountable for this atrocity.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; - - -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The dwarves do not engage in the battle for Evereska, holding themselves strictly neutral.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Although some of them would like to, and a few good dwarves go to aid the elves, and a few evil dwarves&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; aid the humanoids.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; But not enough to make any difference.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).]&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; TheBalor&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 12:10 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; BLOOD JESTER YOU IDIOT!! THOSE DWARVES WERE OUR LAST HOPE OF WINNING!!&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ------------------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; If history is to change,let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If it is my destiny to die, then I&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; must simply laugh.-The Magus&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 12:19 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Damn dwarves. I thought they wanted to bring down the elves. Hmph.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; But we should probably pause before moving forward too much until we get a Technomancer representative. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-10-2001).]&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; TheBalor&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 12:20 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Break until morning, people...&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ------------------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; If history is to change,let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If it is my destiny to die, then I&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; must simply laugh.-The Magus&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Blood Jester&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 12:37 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The deaths of most of our Mage Council is not enough? The remainder offering to submit to trial is not&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; enough? Would ANY nation give up their rulers for trial? Come on, the Dwarves would not even ask such a&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; thing.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Anyway, see you guys tomorrow.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 12:49 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Okay, see you all tomorrow.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena -- please confirm, if you can, in your next synopsis that we humanoids have started our own factories&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (and/or are running some of the technomancer factories) and now have better than typically dumb weapons.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; As I said, in the Month of Terror we could have &quot;appropriated&quot; some of the technomancer tech (from cities&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the elves destroyed, or while we were defending the technomancers, or whatever) in the confusion -- VERY&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; easily. We've got the metalworking ability, we've got some magical ability (kobold sorcerers), and we've got&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the numbers to churn out product faster than the technomancers ever did. Not that we aren't still&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; allied/protecting them, of course. As long as they play nice. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The intention all along was to wait for the Technomancy to aid us in an attack on Evereska. Consider them&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; under siege at the moment (so they are surrounded, but we aren't losing forces), and we move in as soon&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; as a member of the Technomancy confirms they are going to help us wipe these bastards off of the planet .&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; . . so that they won't be able to cast their dumb little 12th level spell ever again. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; After that is taken care of, I'll consider how to handle the Illithid menace. If for some reason the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; technomancy REFUSES to aid us . . . well, I'm not even going to speculate about that right now. I'll wait for&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; them to post.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Lord of the Humanoid Legions&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Defender of Technomancy&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Eater of Elves&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-10-2001).]&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 12:52 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; quote:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Originally posted by Edena_of_Neith:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I SHOULD have made it a year, not a month (this person grouses a bit)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Can't change history now. (more grousing)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; The elves are not as close to victory, after all.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; They should have been.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; They WOULD have been, had they just been facing the weakened Technomancy alone.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; They would have won against both the Technomancy and the Illithid.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; However, several million humanoids came up onto the surface, you see.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Came up, and swarmed over the Elven Spelljammers like ants whenever they set down.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Came up, and slaughtered the elves whenever and wherever they found them.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ....&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; The elves are driven back.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Just a quote for my friends the technomancers to read and consider, before deciding whether to ally with us&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; against Evereska. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 20th level Elf-Skisher&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Lannon&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 12:53 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena i sent out an emissary to the dwarves long ago! However that has come and past so I will move on to&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; more pressing concerns. After the destruction of our magic and the following destruction of some of our&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; resources we were forced to fall back. I think that I am the only force speaking for the technomancy now.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester, if you want the guns you have them, you neednt steal what will rightfully be offered you. The&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; dwarves never accepted my offer to meet together. However, considering the cirumstances I will extend my&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; offer to them again. The dwarves will have to be willing to work with the humanoids, they should understand&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; that our forces are offered peacefully. Forrester, your forces have consistently raided those in opposition to&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; my own. I offer you support in the battles raging now. If you will open your passages we will move some of&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; our skills within the earth so that we might harvest the wealth of the underdark together. Edena I am&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; unaware of which human establishments are under my control. Edena, I do not really know the level of&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; technology that I have available for me. If that could be filled in for me I think my posts on that subject&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; could be more helpful. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Furthermore, Forrester the best way to feed those millions of troops is with industrial machinery working in&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the background. If you bolster my defenses I will keep your troops fed and I can help build supply lines&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (steam powered trains) to the front lines. There is nothing greater, Forrester, than watching your enemies&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; explode in blood from a single rifle shot, or from the blast of a cannon!&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I wish to send emissaries to halruaa and Thay. I believe that my new recruitment policy needs to be&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; implemented here. If these nations are truly destroyed I will accept the loyalty of the recently crushed.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; These mages can be employed with my forces. I suppose we shall have to embrace diversity. The&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; humanoids I think were simply oppressed rather than evil . &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Additionally, I want to reestablish my relations with the dragons. The elves destruction of magic should have&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; put them in thorough disfavor with the gigantic winged beasts! I want them back and I want larger and more&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; powerful weapons in their hands! Furthermore, I want research done in the field of explosives. Special focus&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; should be given to explosives of a large size, perhaps so large that dragons might drop them...(sounds like&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the airforce ) This research can bolster siege engines as well. If i dont have cased ammo yet then I want&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; a research focus on ammunition available. If need be the priests of Gond can aid me in this research by&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; communing with their god. However, let me stress that magic is not needed to get the technology to work it&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; is only a useful enhancer. The magic can be more than that, but the technology should work on its own!&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Buzzard you have my support. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena I have one request, can you work this by submission. We can each provide a submission each day or&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; so and then expect it to be updated. Lets slow down the pace a bit so we can all be in on the fun. I missed&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; like two years when I went to grab some dinner . &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Anyhow, its been fun. I really want to hear about these wonderful humanoids wielding some of the nations&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; wonderful technology!&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; TheBalor&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 12:58 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Goddamnit, this is aggravating. I want to SLEEP, but I can't without you guys posting..JUST STOP,OK?!&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ------------------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; If history is to change,let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If it is my destiny to die, then I&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; must simply laugh.-The Magus&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 12:59 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Those are excellent sentiments, Lannon, and I urge Edena to take note of them -- especially the part about&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; full access to weaponry. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We shall not disappoint. However, you failed to add an important sentence to your missive, Lannon. I urge&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; you to add it:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;We, the Technomancy, support the humanoids fully in their effort to take Evereska -- and we would have&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; supported them fully as soon as the issue arose. Unfortunately, I was at dinner &quot;. &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Phasmus&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 01:04 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Good night, LightBound.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Would that this world could be spared from seeing another dawn...&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Soon enough... soon enough.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; All will be made right.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Regards,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Phasmus T. Tapefiend:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Don'Calamari,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Speaker-To-Thralls,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Public Representative of the Illithid,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Horde-Master 1st Class.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Lannon&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 01:06 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; quote:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Originally posted by Forrester:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Those are excellent sentiments, Lannon, and I urge Edena to take note of them -- especially&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; the part about full access to weaponry. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; We shall not disappoint. However, you failed to add an important sentence to your missive,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Lannon. I urge you to add it:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &quot;We, the Technomancy, support the humanoids fully in their effort to take Evereska -- and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; we would have supported them fully as soon as the issue arose. Unfortunately, I was at&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; dinner &quot;. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Agreed my belly called me away. Unfortunately, I think we will have to work with what we have left . I think&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; together we can do more than enough. If I can pull the dragons back, after the elven fiasco, I think we can&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; be something else. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; To Balor, I just now got a chance to post my own update, give me a break . &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Gruffmug&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 01:07 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; A goblin archmage enters the fray bringing with him a host of Githyanki and githzerai. The githyanki lich&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; queen is killed by me (secretly) and the blame is on illithiad. The gith. races come to a truce due to my&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; diplomacy. However, as a concession to the the githyanki we attack the elves and their fleet. Oh, illithaid&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; hunting parties are now every where and whoa to any who stand in our way. We ally with the humanoids.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Also, I seek to gain information on this new technomancy and steal elven secrets of spelljammer building.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Soon, fleets of orcs spelljamers shall be seen in wildspace once again. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Nok goblin defiler, wildmage, chromancer resident of limbo. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;Who is the master&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;Shonuff&quot; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [This message has been edited by Gruffmug (edited 04-10-2001).]&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Reprisal&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 01:22 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I may be over-stepping my bounds, but I will be the Technocracy's tentative representative. As this&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; representative, I will formally ally my factions within the Technocracy with the humanoid forces under&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester and join Lannon at the stockades against the Illithids and the Elves.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (Post Edit)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Once more, I have re-read the posts concerning the dwarves, and I would believe that those countries under&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the banner of the Technocracy would recognize the Dwarven neutrality. At the same time though, I would not&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; doubt that the men would send aid in the form of healers (magic or otherwise), foodstuffs and livestock.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The dwarves are known to be a potent ally, if not militarily, then perhaps economically. We trade what they&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; want for what we want... How well do you think certain dwarves would be at machining cannon barrels? We&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; would ask them to simply work the machines, which we would supply to them free of charge. In exchange,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; we would require that a portion of their metal workers help craft quality cannon and musket barrels.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; As for the elves, they can go kiss Whoever's the Honcho in the Abyss for all I care. The human nations&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; under the technocratic banner would probably say the same thing, and support the dwarves in their call for&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; military trials against those responsible for the catastrophe. I doubt it'd do anything on the elven side, but&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the dwarves know where we stand, and that's good enough for me.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I would also call out to Forrester to keep his hordes under control when it comes to the dwarves, I am well&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; aware of the bad blood between the dwarves and the races under Forrester. Can I get this from you,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester? If so, there's a shipment of newly machined cannon and a full assortment of different shot for&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; your armies. This way, you will have more than mere catapults and ballistae.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; A sign of good will, both to the dwarves and to the humanoids.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ((On a side note, I doubt human nations would trust the humanoids farther than arms length. I hope they&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; will understand. Strange bedfellows and all that, eh Forrester?))&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Rep.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ------------------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity.&quot; - Albert Camus&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [This message has been edited by Reprisal (edited 04-10-2001).]&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; DarwinofMind&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 01:24 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Wow, I go away for one measily little day and this thread doulbes in size. Couldn't you hold the war just for&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 24 hours,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Anyways, If the Illithids Psionics worked during the Month of Terror So did mine, Not ever having been plane&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; walking before and seeing big troulbe everywhere, I ducked out. (Cowerdly but for good reason.) I've been&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; roaming about, and Have now returned, with all the knowledge, and forces, and technology I could gather all&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; over the Multiverse. (Didn't get to visit a few places, Krynn, Athas, Ravenloft. But went nearly everywhere&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; else.)&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena_of_Neith&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 01:36 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Evereska, the elven nation that has stood since before the Dawn of Netheril, since the Rise of Man, falls to&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the humanoids.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Lannon and Reprisal make it possible, for they can speak for the technomancy.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Evereska falls.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Gleeful orcs swarm over the defenses, putting ancient trees and monuments to the torch, smashing and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; hacking.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Elven homes of crystal and marble shatter at the blows of gnolls. A vast cloud of smoke goes up from the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; stricken city.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Armed with firearms from the Technomancy, the humanoids mow down the elven defenders, and elven&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; fighter and elven civilian fall alike - the humanoids make no distinction.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; It is a massacre.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; When it is over, all the elven women and children that remain are chained and taken away, to be led into&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; thralldom in the dens of the humanoids, or to slave away for the Technomancy.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (Yes, Lannon and Reprisal, this is on your hands. Whatever happens next, you take the consequences!&nbsp; )&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; - - -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; To Forester: You are correct. The humanoids HAVE been setting up weapons factories, very secretly and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; quietly.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; While the surface cities have been pounded into rubble, and the big guns have roared above, the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; humanoids have quietly and quickly been building weapons factories underground.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; So yes, the humanoids - especially the kobolds! - have access to firearms, explosives, and other destructive&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; technology.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; - - -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The dwarves WOULD have listened to your offer, Lannon/Reprisal, but upon hearing of the destruction of&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Evereska by humanoids, they are unhappy.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; They do wish the elves to hand over Queen Amlaruil and Company for trial, but they do not support the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; destruction of the ancient elven civilization by savage humanoids, and the enslavement of the remaining&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; elves by them.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; They remain neutral.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Lannon, both Thay and Halruaa were devastated by the illithid (and Thay was in total anarchy and civil war&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; prior to that - when magic collapsed the slaves rose up)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; At this point the following countries are in the Technomancy:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Amn&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Calimshan&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Chessenta&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Dambrath&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Impiltur&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Luskan&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Mulhorand&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Nimbral (just joined)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Thazalar&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Thesk&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Threskel&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Turmish&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Sembia&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Var the Golden&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Ulgarth&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Damara, Thar, and Narfell are nominal allies of the Technomancy.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The following nations are with the Elven Alliance:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Aglarond&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Akanal&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Ashanath (although just barely)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Candlekeep&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Chondath&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; All the elves left in Cormanthyr&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Cormyr&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Great Dale (has switched sides)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The High Forest&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Moonshaes&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Lantan&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Neverwinter&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Rashemen&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Sespech&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Tethyr&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Lord's Alliance&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Unther&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Westgate&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Thay was with the Technomancy, but it is now out of the war.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Luruar, Waterdeep, and Halruaa were with the elves, but they are now out of the war.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).]&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Reprisal&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 01:43 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posted an edit for my above post, sorry about that, I hadn't known that we're all watching this thread like&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the perverbial vultures.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Yes, I understand the responsibility involved in my actions and I forsee the humanoids turning as soon as&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the Illithids are dealt with... We are putting the pieces in place.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Rep.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ------------------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity.&quot; - Albert Camus&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 01:49 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; quote:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Originally posted by Edena_of_Neith:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Evereska, the elven nation that has stood since before the Dawn of Netheril, since the Rise&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; of Man, falls to the humanoids.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ....&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; It is a massacre.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; When it is over, all the elven women and children that remain are chained and taken away, to&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; be led into thralldom in the dens of the humanoids, or to slave away for the Technomancy.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Don't forget lunch!&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Well, as of now it seems as though the Technomancy is fully cooperating with us -- meaning that while no&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; doubt we are working on our own technology and such (just as the Israelis might), we can also rely a good&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; deal on our allies the Technomancy (just as the Israelis do w/regard to the US). &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Excellent. Any other elven outposts of note to bring down, or is it time to determine whether action need be&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; taken against the Illithids? Please let me know how far we are from wiping out the elven race on this world. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Ah . . goblin and kobold Spelljammer ships. As Cartman would say, &quot;Sweeeeeeet!&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; DarwinofMind&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 01:52 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; You know we have pretty much destroyed FR, &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Anyway, I bring my new found knowledge to the Technomancy, Any worries about inferror technology are&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; gone as There are countless planes with higher tech. &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 02:01 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Yes, Reprisal, we are quite aware that you surface-dwellers will not fully trust us. However, we have little&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; grudge against you -- in fact, none at this point. You have let the elves brainwash you . . . we may have&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; some violent peoples among us, but we are not an unjust people. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; But we ARE a cautious one. Meaning we'll be sure to check the equipment you send us for latent magical&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; boobytraps and such . . . we wiped out the elves, be forewarned that any treachery on your part will result in&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; cannons being pointed in a direction you would not like. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; On that note -- we will let the dwarves be for now. Not that we could not overrun them and kill them with&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ease, given our greater numbers and superior technology. But in all honesty, we have far more hatred for&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; elven and illithid arrogance than for dwarven stubbornness. We can understand stubbornness. But elitist&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; snotty arrogance -- well, the time for vengeance is at hand. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena -- I noticed that there were a lot of elvish areas left. Given that we probably outnumber them 20 to 1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (as they are one race, and we are many, and any of our races' members ALONE outnumber them!), AND&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; have cannon and rifles and far better technology than they do . . . well, how long until we completely and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; totally wipe them out? Modify your answer depending on whether we have the Dragons on our side, of&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; course. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We will make sure that the elven menace is snuffed out, once and for good -- afterwards, let us discuss&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; what to do about these squid-heads.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; As far as alliances with the human races . . . again, we will grudgingly accept them. If they do not move&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; against us, and perhaps RESPECT us for the first time in a millenia, then we will let them live.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; FINAL point: we welcome with half-open arms our new allies, the gith. The enemy of our enemy is our friend.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Though we would like some proof that Gruffmug is actually a goblin, of course, and has humanoid interests&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; at heart. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; If you are fully on my side, Gruffmug, the elves will fall within weeks, perhaps days. What do you say? &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Bane of Evereska&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-10-2001).]&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 02:07 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Stupid dwarves. Savage humanoids indeed. We would not be savages if we were not constantly attacked&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; from below by Drow and Illithid, and attacked from above by elf and human and, yes, dwarf. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Well, the savages have fire-sticks now. Big fire-sticks. And unlike most savages, we know how to build more.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (Not that you folks necessarily know that.) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I suggest to the dwarves that they keep their ARROGANCE in check. The elves had it coming. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (who still is far more irritated at the elves and illithids)&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; johnbrown&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 02:14 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ( To Edena ? Your welcome)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Again, Sorry for interrupting and forgive me if this hast been mentioned before, but why aren?t those groups&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; who are fighting the mind flayers using some of those Realms portals I keep reading about and getting&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; mercenaries from other worlds if you are so short on manpower. Help from say?.Oerth? &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; There are a few powerful people -- Tenser, Jallarzi, maybe Bigby, and Otto ? who would recognize that a&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; threat of such magnitude could easily spill over into the Flanaess (although the rest of the Circle of Eight&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; would probably stay out of it). Not only that, countries like Perrenland, The Domain of Greyhawk, The&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Northern Kingdom and Ahlissa will send mercenaries anywhere if the cash was right (as long as you don?t&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; mind working with evils in the case of The Northern Kingdom and Ahlissa). You could also call on the Fists Of&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Hextor (again evil but bodies are bodies) Heck, Iuz and/or Rary might be willing to lend some orcs to the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ?humanoids? for a few examples of those nifty bang sticks they have (once again evil). Queen Yolande of&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Celene might be willing to help out the elves. Not much help available from the other ?good? countries, I?m&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; afraid. They have their own problems right now and really can?t spare the manpower?..&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Anyway just a thought, let the war continue?. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [This message has been edited by johnbrown (edited 04-10-2001).]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [This message has been edited by johnbrown (edited 04-10-2001).]&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena_of_Neith&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 02:20 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Two MORE armies now enter the fray.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; A githyanki and githzerai army under the command of Gruffmug's goblin.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; This army joins the Technomancy, apparently.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; A second smaller force under Darwin of Mind, consisting of all manner of free-booters, adventurers, and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Outsiders, not to mention clerics willing to spread the faith, has come from the other Spheres.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; This force also joins the Technomancy.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; However! ...&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Dragons do NOT join the Technomancy.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Dragons, among the most powerful of Toril's beings, are with the Faerie Folk, and THEY are against&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; EVERYONE who is continuing this war.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; They wish peace, and they want it now.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; However, nobody has bothered to listen to their pleas for peace.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; A note: The Faerie Folk and their allies have now become the single most powerful force on Toril, because:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Nobody has been fighting them&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; They have been calling vast numbers of Faerie from the Outer Planes&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; They have been calling vast numbers of allied Outsiders from those Planes&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; They have nearly all the dragons, and all of the oldest and wisest ones are with them.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Guess what, folks?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The dwarves just joined THEM.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Now, someone asked: where is the next elven target?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; That would be Evermeet. The sacred homeland, the land of sanctuary, the final place of retreat, for the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; elves for 50,000 years.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Evermeet is ruled by Queen Amlaruil, it is defended by the Elven Imperial Navy, and it is separated from the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; mainland by a vast ocean.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Evermeet is going to be TEN TIMES harder to take than Evereska was.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; There are also smaller groups of elves on the mainland.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ALL the countries listed as being on the side of the elves, are fighting on their side right now, and protecting&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; them. (See the list about 3 to 5 posts up.)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Technomancy and it's enemies are in bad shape. Think of Europe during the war.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Cities are in ruins, the countryside depopulated.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The war machine is still partially intact, and what is intact is concentrated in certain areas. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; In these areas, protected by all the magic that can be mustered, a feverish effort is being made to fully&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; rebuild the war machine fully, and to expand the effort to other centers of production.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Because of the intervention of the humanoids, who formed a wall of protection, much of this work has been&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; done. But much still needs to be done.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; It is now the 5th year of the War. Deaths are now in the hundreds of thousands.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 02:28 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena -- actually, Gruffmug said that he was joining the humanoids, specifically, not the Technomancy. He&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; also said explicitly that he was attacking the elven fleet. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I also have to quibble a little bit with the comparison of the situation as &quot;Europe after the War&quot;. The war was&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; a very even contest. We outnumber our foe and we outgun them as well. This is more like the colonial U.S.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; against the Indians. The U.S. expanded quite quickly given its greater numbers and better technology, even&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; considering the Indian wars . . . &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I know the comparison isn't *completely* fair, but I think it's closer than Europe after the war . . . !&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Worried About Big Dumb Dragons&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Getting People To Summon Fiendish Outsiders&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 02:33 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Okay, allies. My suggestion is that we let Evermeet sit for now. No doubt the damn Dragons would&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; IMMEDIATELY intercede. God forbid the elves lose their crappy little homeland. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; However, it sounds to ME like we can take the rest of the continent (continents? I have no idea what the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; map looks like) with more ease. In other words, rid everywhere BUT Evermeet of elves. We'll let the human&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; allies of the elves live (unless they get in our way) -- after the elves have been wiped out, we'll plea for&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; peace, of course. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena -- how difficult would that be? Could we do it fairly quickly, if we haven't done most of it already in the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; last five years? 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In other words, to attack densely populated areas.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; As I previously stated quite a while back, tens of thousands of civilians were killed, and entire regions&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; terrorized.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Flights of dragons are no joke.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Now the dragons are all allied with the Faerie Folk. Better pay attention when their leader talks ...&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; - - - &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; To answer your question, Forrester, you are nowhere close to taking all of Faerun, for the simple reason that&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Estlor and his Faerie Folk and their Dragons and their new allies the dwarves are opposing you.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The elves and their allied nations are still fighting desperately, too.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; But Estlor has MASSIVE force backing him, force almost equalling yours.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).]&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 02:37 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena -- oh, most of that happened early in the war.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Okay. I thought you were implying that my humanoid forces had taken heavy losses, which I don't think&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; should be the case. Some losses, yes, but not disproportionate ones. Combine that with our greater&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; numbers, and we're kicking ass. (We lose 200,000 forces, no big deal. The elves lose 200,000, there's not&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; many of them left. And we should lose FEWER than the others due to our vastly better technology -- so&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; maybe only 50,000.)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Happy to be eatin' elf ears&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 02:38 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Eek! The DRAGONS are now opposing us?!&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; You didn't tell me THAT before. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Hmmmmmm. That's not good. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I'll sign off for the night . . . but if the Dragons are entering, we'll concentrate far more on entrenching and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; holding the areas we've taken, as opposed to conquering new areas. Which certainly might be interpreted as&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; a move for &quot;peace&quot;. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; But we're not budging.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Meanwhile, the kobold factories of the Underdark (ever vigilant against possible Illithid movements and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; hopefully aided with information by their new allies the Gith, led by Gruffmug), continue to churn and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; develop, churn and develop, churn and develop . . . &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester the Worried&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edit: EDENA, question: What (likely elven) areas other than Evereska did my hordes manage to raze during&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the 5-year period before the Dragons entered the war?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-10-2001).]&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Reprisal&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 02:49 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Are all of the Dragon's allied with the Faery folk? If so, I would like to know how the evil ones get along with&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the good ones. I always thought that chromatics and metallics (and others) were more akin to Celestials&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; and Fiends, and less like mere racial competitors.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Just a thought, &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Rep.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ------------------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity.&quot; - Albert Camus&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; DarwinofMind&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 02:54 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Ok, Toril is (was) a place of very powerful people. Many of these people had moved away to far off planes&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; but upon hearing their homeland was in danger of total destruction returned home with me. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; At this point my group is mostly interested in stoping this whole thing, We are no opposing the Fairy folk&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; beucase they have the same goal but they are trying diplomacy. We don't believe it will work. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Technomacy never began the war and truely has never made a serious offensive. The remaining forces&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; that are truely loyal to the Technomancy, (And I don't see much) we will leave and negotiate with further&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; after things setle down.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The elves started this and infact have cuased more damage than anything else. But they have also taken&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; large amounts of damage. At this point I believe the Elves are no longer a threat. Whether this is true&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; remains to be seen. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forresters humaniods are a serious threat to the idea of stoping this war but it is hoped that we can&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; negotiate with them. We will try to get them to recognize the amount of damage this war has done to the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; world, and that if it keeps up no one wins. And of course there is always bribery if that fails. If we can get&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; them to stop their attacks on the elves, But keep &quot;on guard.&quot; That way the elves are no longer a threat.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The only force that simply cannot be negotiated with is the Mind-Flayers, We will have to destroy them. This&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; action is currently being planned. Hopefully to be executed by my PlaneWalkers, with the help of the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Technomacy.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; -edit- Ok this game is additive. But I'm going to sleep have to be up early tomarrow don't destroy the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; multiverse while I'm gone.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [This message has been edited by DarwinofMind (edited 04-10-2001).]&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 03:11 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Darwin -- we'll see . . . perhaps a short peace, er, I mean, a peace of indeterminate length is called for. I&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; want a few more details on how much of the surface we now control.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Hey. Weren't the dragons incredibly p.o.'d at the elves? They're going to join the elves' side just because&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; some humanoids are wreaking a little vengeance? We humanoids never did nothin' to THEM. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We don't get no respect.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester Dangerfield&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Reprisal&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 03:22 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Aye, Darwin speaks the truth, though the fires of battle were high at the beginning of the war, I would&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; believe that now that the great enemy (the Elves) have been battled back. Whether they recognize that they&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; have no place in interfering with the sovereignty of any other state remains to be seen. If they yield and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; return to their own devices (and only their own devices), I will also throw my hat into the arena of&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; negotiations.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The problem, now, is whether or not the Humanoids will go along with this... I believe I will send a letter&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; straight to Forrester and ask that he attend the negotiations. I would also ask the dwarves to mediate, since&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; they claim neutrality. Also, I would have a few proposals:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (1a) The outer rim of the elven lands who took part in the war would be annexed by the humanoids as a&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; buffer zone between the Technocracy and the elven nations.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (1b) The specific races involved should be those that are suited to above ground battling: Ogres, Trolls,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Hobgoblins and Orcs. Others would be charged with helping out in the battle against the new enemy in the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Illithids in a defensive formation. We do not attack until we have hammered out an agreement.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (2a) Those who have been concerned with the defeat of the Illithids will be called to the table as well. As a&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; result, there should be an emphasis on the pacification of the Illithid-conquered territories.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (2b) The Technocracy would be able to send troops and other personell to aide the battle against the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Illithids since the humanoids should be able to hold back the elves if they believe they can break out.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (3a) I would still believe that the primary enemy of the Technomantic forces is still the elves, until they&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; capitulate, they will forever remain enemies.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I think that's it for now, plus, I think I should stop posting until at least tomorrow afternoon, we hardcores&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; are leaving those who work in a disadvantage.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Rep.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ------------------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity.&quot; - Albert Camus&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena_of_Neith&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 03:43 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; WAR UPDATE #5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; - - -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Elven Alliance (Total Power Level 5)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Spokesman: Blood Jester&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Goal: World Domination&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Nations: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Aglarond (civilization center, severe damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Akanal (nation, moderate damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Candlekeep (city, heavy damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Chondath (nation, heavy damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; All the elves of Cormanthyr (small settlements, severe damage to region)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Cormyr (civilization center, severe damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Dalelands (small nations, severe damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Evereska (elven civilization center, destroyed, out of the war)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Evermeet (homeland of all the elves, light damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Halruaa (civilization center, destroyed, out of the war)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Great Dale (nation, heavy damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Elves of the High Forest (small countries, light damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Luruar (civilization center, severe damage, out of the war)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Lantan (island nation, light damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Lapaliiya (nation, light damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Luiren (halfling homeland, undamaged)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Moonshaes (series of islands and nations, moderate damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Neverwinter (elven nation, heavy damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Rashemen (nation, severe damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Sespech (nation, light damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Shadowdale (civilization center, severe damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Unther (nation, moderate damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Westgate (city, heavy damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; - Allies of the Elven Alliance&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Elven Imperial Navy of Wildspace (a vast armada of spelljammers, with many allies) (light to moderate&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Goal (of the Elven Imperial Navy): World Domination and Domination of Realmspace&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; - - -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Technomancer Confederation (Total Power Level 7)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Spokesmen: Lannon, Reprisal&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Goal: Creating a dominant position in Faerun, Security, Freedom to continue their research&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Nations:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Amn (nation, moderate damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Calimshan (civilization center, light damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Chessenta (nation, moderate damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Damara (humanoid nation, severe damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Dambrath (nation, light damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Estagund (nation, undamaged)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Impiltur (nation, heavy damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Luskan (seaport city, severe damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Mulhorand (civilization center, heavy damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Mulmaster (city state, moderate damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Murghorn (nation, moderate damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Narfell (humanoid nation, severe damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Nimbral (island mage nation, moderate damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Ruathym (island nation, undamaged)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Samorach (nation, light damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Tashalar (nation, undamaged)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Thar (humanoid nation, heavy damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Thazalhar (nation, heavy damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Thesk (nation, severe damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Thindol (nation, light damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Threskel (nation, moderate damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Turmish (nation, light damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Sembia (civilization center, light damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Var the Golden (civilization center, undamaged)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Ulgarth (nation, undamaged)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Zhentil Keep (city and confederation, light damage)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Allies of the Technomancer Confederation:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The humanoid hordes of the Underdark, and many surface lands: estimated at several million strong.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Primary types: kobolds, orcs, goblins, hobgoblins, gnolls, bugbears&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Goal (of the Humanoid Forces): Annihilation of the elves, territory for themselves&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Spokesman for the Humanoids: Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Legions of the Githyanki&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Legions of the Githzerai&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Spokesman for the Githyanki and allies: Gruffmug&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Goal (of the Githyanki): To aid the humanoids against the Elven Alliance&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Several vast fleets of ships, and hosts of mages and men from:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The continent of Zakhara, and many of the Nations therein.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Goal (of the Nations of Zakhara): Access to new technologies, profit&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; - - -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Faerie Folk (Total Power Level 7)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Spokesman: Estlor&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Goal: Peace (except for the Illithid - the goal there is annihilation)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Nations:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Seelie Court, and the Hosts of Faerie&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Allies of the Faerie Folk&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; A vast force of Outsiders from the Upper Planes, especially from Arborea&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; A vast force of animals and intelligent plants across all of Faerun&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Almost all of the good dragons of Faerun (and some from other continents)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; A greater number of the neutral dragons of Faerun (and some from other continents)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; A few of the evil dragons of Faerun (and a couple from other continents)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ((The remaining dragons are Neutral, or they attack all sides))&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; A large force from the Trackless Sea, consisting heavily of merfolk, dolphins, and other good or neutral&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; aligned sea creatures that desire peace.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; A smaller force from the Inner Sea, consisting of the same elements.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ((The sahuagin and other evil sea creatures have not taken sides))&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Most of the dwarven nations of Faerun.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; All of the surviving gnomish nations of Faerun. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (That's right, they have defected. Fed up with the Technomancy and what they call it's ruthless tactics,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; they've opted to join with the Faerie, even if that means giving up their technology!)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Nearly all of the halflings of Faerun.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; All the Allies of the Faerie Folk have the same goals as the Faerie Folk.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; - - -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Illithid (total power level 8)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Spokesmen: Phasmus&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Goal: Annihilation or total subjugation of all other races, elimination of the sun&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Nations:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; All the illithid nations of Faerun, joined by all the illithid nations of the entire world of Toril&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Allies of the Illithid&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The enslaved phaerimm (an awesome power for destruction)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The enslaved wizards taken Below (thousands of them)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The enslaved humans, demi-humans, and humanoids taken Below (tens of thousands of them)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The artifacts taken from Myth Drannor (these are not sentient per se, but they are of awesome power)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The artifacts and knowledge taken from Candlekeep (again, not sentient, but of awesome power)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The artifacts and knowledge taken from Silverymoon (some of these of very extreme power)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; - - -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Planeswalkers&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Spokesmen: Darwin of Mind, Riot Gear (Total Power Level 1)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Goal: Peace (and like the Faerie, the annihilation of the Illithid)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; This is a large force of adventurers, opportunists, clerics hoping to convert a new world, mages seeking&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; spells, Outsiders either summoned or freely joining, and others come to the World of Toril from other&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Spheres and other Realms.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; It is the end of the 5th year of the War.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).]&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 04:01 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena -- earlier you said that Mystra was currently too weak to get revenge against the elves, and that what&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; they wreaked would last for millenia.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Given this fact, would it make sense that the Chosen of Mystra are allied with the elves? &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Damn elves. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I suggest to my allies that it seems likely that most of the elves' allies are there ONLY because we're doing&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; so amazingly well -- and that if we move for peace, most of those allies will retreat back into the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; netherspace or higher planes or whatnot. Back to wherever they came from. After all, we did nothing to p!ss&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; off Mystra -- the elves did. We didn't screw with the dwarves -- the elves did. We didn't suck away the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; dragons' powers, or make it so that outsiders coming to this plane would die -- the elves did.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Peace for now, I *suggest*. (But I'll make an official decision after reading all your posts tomorrow . . . )&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Oh -- I noted in a post on page 6 or 7 that we humanoids wanted to go artifact-collecting as well -- and I'm&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; guessing we could get to some of those places faster than the Illithids. Did we get anything tasty?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (Finally -- power level 7?! That's the Technocracy AND the Humanoid Hordes? Don't we outnumber the elves&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; and their allies at least 10 to 1, and outgun them as well? I had the sense that were it not for the Faere, we&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; could have taken the elves *easily*. I don't even know that they outmagic us by very much now that we&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; have those folks from Nimbral and the Gith on our side. I ask that you reconsider the power ratings given&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; these facts -- or assign different power ratings for the Technocracy and the Humanoids/Gith. Your call, of&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; course -- you are the DM! This whole thing is very cool, by the way.)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Diplomat Extraordinaire&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Noter of Fact that Elves from Evereska are Spicier Than Normal&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-10-2001).]&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 04:14 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ACK! I am shocked, Edena, SHOCKED.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The goal of the humanoid hordes is hardly WORLD DOMINATION. I'm surprised at you.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; No . . . our immediate goal is far simpler. Elimination of the Elvish Race. Once and for all. We might be able&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; to live peaceably with other races, once that blemish has been erased from the multiverse. Especially the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; good humans of the Technomancy. We don't trust them completely, of course, but that's not the same thing&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; as saying we want to enslave them.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The whole World Domination thing is more Elven. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (Oh -- if you didn't already, note my comments above about the power levels . . . )&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena_of_Neith&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 04:15 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Excuse me. My mistake.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Chosen do not take sides.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Chosen DO try to save everything that can be saved from the ravages of this awful war (a war that&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; beggars even the Greyhawk War in terms of total destruction)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I will change the Goal of the Humanoids, as requested (chuckle)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).]&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena_of_Neith&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posted 04-10-2001 04:32 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (( (solemn look) Early this evening, this Thread stood at 109 Posts. Now it is at 210.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; A gain of over 100 Posts in less than 6 hours.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; In all my history online, I have never witnessed the like, and I am betting I will never witness it again.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I think this Thread has the potential to go for 1,000 Posts. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; People love a good romp. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; - - -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I wish to plead with the Moderators to leave this Thread open, and not lock it.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I wish to plead that it be left here on this forum (general RPG discussion,) where people will see it and post&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; to it.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Let us continue, and see where it goes.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; That is my plea.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Yours Sincerely&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena_of_Neith))&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 1302667, member: 2020"] [b](Post 6) Thread One of the 1st IR[/b] Blood Jester Member posted 04-09-2001 11:44 PM [OOC - Damn! Work has put me way behind here!] O.K. I disagree with a few results/calls here (especially the overlooking of the fact that Psionics would be just as crippled as magic for one month) but, oh well. The recovery of the techs is overrated, it is not that they couldn't eventually have built these things better, it is that they didn't because they started to rely on magic instead of developing their technology along the proper lines. The irony is that the Technos downfall was their dependence on magic, and lack of faith in the superiority of their technology. Here are my attack choices; in situations where the Illithids took over other Cities, our goals are elimination of the Illithids, are freeing the cities in question (the acceptable cost varies, but usually the goal is to preserve the conquered) 1st group) 1-The Drow of the Underdark 2-The Phaerimm of Anauroch 3-The Illithid Nation 4&5-The top two nations supporting the Technomancy army 2nd group) 1-Zhentil Keep 2345-The next four nations supporting the Technomancy army 3rd group) 1-Halruaa 2-Candlekeep 3-Nimbral 4-Myth Drannor 5-(Held in reserve to support efforts where needed.) Still a slave to work, will comment as able. Blood Jester P.S. - Elven skill with a bow, and ability to sneak in and out of places is not affected by the loss of magic. Skills are like that. Forrester Member posted 04-09-2001 11:44 PM Um, in case you couldn't tell, the humanoids are holding back until a Technomancy representative logs in . . . Shees! TheBalor Member posted 04-09-2001 11:46 PM Damnit, where are they all? ------------------ If history is to change,let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If it is my destiny to die, then I must simply laugh.-The Magus Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-09-2001 11:47 PM Now wait a minute. A grand alliance of the Technomancers, humanoids, elves, and dwarves against the illithid is not possible when: The humanoids are currently (and frantically) trying to destroy elven Evereska. [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).] johnbrown Member posted 04-09-2001 11:59 PM Sorry for the interruption, but I would just like to say that this one great thread. If you put this all in a novel I sure would buy it. Forrester Member posted 04-09-2001 11:59 PM I don't know how much time has passed since the Month of Terror, Edena, but I want to point out that I did say we took their technology and have been working on it ourselves (our kobold sorcerer/engineers, that is). So to be honest, while the technomancers would be very helpful, I'm not sure that (given our numbers) we absolutely need them to take Everseka or whatever the hell elf-land that was. Not that we won't wait for help if we need it, of course -- just want to point out that WE are no longer a bunch of dumb humanoids with pointy sticks. We've got the tech and we've got the manpower. Picture China with U.S. technology. A Billion strong. Hell yeah. Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-10-2001 12:04 AM (To John Brown) Thank you. Although heaven knows where this will end up! I repeat: the elves will NOT ally with the humanoids when the humanoids are trying to destroy their MILlENNIA old civilization of Evereska. Not ally with them against the illithid, or anyone else. [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).] Blood Jester Member posted 04-10-2001 12:04 AM Whoa! Way too much changed while I was typing! Edena: -The Dwaves were (attempted to be) recruited quite a while ago. -Everyone involved in casting the spell gave their lives doing it (stated at the time of casting). -They will not get the Queen, nor military commanders not even involved in the decision to cast the spell, if the Dwarves have any honor, they would not even ask this, and if they do the Elves refuse. The mage coucil will take the blame for The Queen, and those few who live will stand trial if necessary. But the Queen is off limits. -Had the Dwarves had the courage to come stand with us in the fray instead of hiding in their burrows, this could have all been avoided, so... -If they insist on holding trials, we demand their cowardly military leaders stand trial in our courts for their crimes against the Elves. Their failure having caused the needless deaths of thousands of our people. Blood Jester Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 12:09 AM That's MUCH more like what I'd think would happen . . . Now, then. The dwarves have been spurned. And they hate the elves. And the humanoids didn't target them one BIT. So how about it, dwarves? A single-time cooperative attack on Evereska? This topic is 16 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 All times are Central Time (US) This is an ARCHIVED topic. You may not reply to it! Hop to: Contact Us | D&D 3rd Edition News Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.47b Note: This is an archived topic. It is read-only. D&D 3rd Edition News Board Other Archived Stuff What would your PCs do if gnomes invented the Industrial Revolution? (Page 8) UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! profile | register | preferences | faq | search This topic is 16 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 This topic was originally posted in this forum: General RPG Discussion Author Topic: What would your PCs do if gnomes invented the Industrial Revolution? Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-10-2001 12:10 AM Well, you heard Blood Jester. So did the dwarves. The dwarves refuse to ally with the elves or anyone else against the illithid. Until Queen Amlaruil and other Malefactors are brought in for justice, they aren't budging. (and everyone knows about dwarven stubborness) Isolated forays against the illithid? Yes. A full scale effort? Not at all. The dwarves, outraged, point out that the elves wrecked their magic and their darksight, and never consulted them about it (they would never have agreed to such a thing in any case.) Many dwarves died as a result of that elven spell, the dwarves claim. And many more fell sick, and much of the food supply was ruined. The dwarves think it only reasonable that those responsible for the blood of innocent dwarven lives be held accountable for this atrocity. - - - The dwarves do not engage in the battle for Evereska, holding themselves strictly neutral. Although some of them would like to, and a few good dwarves go to aid the elves, and a few evil dwarves aid the humanoids. But not enough to make any difference. [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).] TheBalor Member posted 04-10-2001 12:10 AM BLOOD JESTER YOU IDIOT!! THOSE DWARVES WERE OUR LAST HOPE OF WINNING!! ------------------ If history is to change,let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If it is my destiny to die, then I must simply laugh.-The Magus Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 12:19 AM Damn dwarves. I thought they wanted to bring down the elves. Hmph. But we should probably pause before moving forward too much until we get a Technomancer representative. [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-10-2001).] TheBalor Member posted 04-10-2001 12:20 AM Break until morning, people... ------------------ If history is to change,let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If it is my destiny to die, then I must simply laugh.-The Magus Blood Jester Member posted 04-10-2001 12:37 AM The deaths of most of our Mage Council is not enough? The remainder offering to submit to trial is not enough? Would ANY nation give up their rulers for trial? Come on, the Dwarves would not even ask such a thing. Anyway, see you guys tomorrow. Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 12:49 AM Okay, see you all tomorrow. Edena -- please confirm, if you can, in your next synopsis that we humanoids have started our own factories (and/or are running some of the technomancer factories) and now have better than typically dumb weapons. As I said, in the Month of Terror we could have "appropriated" some of the technomancer tech (from cities the elves destroyed, or while we were defending the technomancers, or whatever) in the confusion -- VERY easily. We've got the metalworking ability, we've got some magical ability (kobold sorcerers), and we've got the numbers to churn out product faster than the technomancers ever did. Not that we aren't still allied/protecting them, of course. As long as they play nice. The intention all along was to wait for the Technomancy to aid us in an attack on Evereska. Consider them under siege at the moment (so they are surrounded, but we aren't losing forces), and we move in as soon as a member of the Technomancy confirms they are going to help us wipe these bastards off of the planet . . . so that they won't be able to cast their dumb little 12th level spell ever again. After that is taken care of, I'll consider how to handle the Illithid menace. If for some reason the technomancy REFUSES to aid us . . . well, I'm not even going to speculate about that right now. I'll wait for them to post. Forrester Lord of the Humanoid Legions Defender of Technomancy Eater of Elves [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-10-2001).] Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 12:52 AM quote: Originally posted by Edena_of_Neith: I SHOULD have made it a year, not a month (this person grouses a bit) Can't change history now. (more grousing) The elves are not as close to victory, after all. They should have been. They WOULD have been, had they just been facing the weakened Technomancy alone. They would have won against both the Technomancy and the Illithid. However, several million humanoids came up onto the surface, you see. Came up, and swarmed over the Elven Spelljammers like ants whenever they set down. Came up, and slaughtered the elves whenever and wherever they found them. .... The elves are driven back. Just a quote for my friends the technomancers to read and consider, before deciding whether to ally with us against Evereska. Forrester 20th level Elf-Skisher Lannon Member posted 04-10-2001 12:53 AM Edena i sent out an emissary to the dwarves long ago! However that has come and past so I will move on to more pressing concerns. After the destruction of our magic and the following destruction of some of our resources we were forced to fall back. I think that I am the only force speaking for the technomancy now. Forrester, if you want the guns you have them, you neednt steal what will rightfully be offered you. The dwarves never accepted my offer to meet together. However, considering the cirumstances I will extend my offer to them again. The dwarves will have to be willing to work with the humanoids, they should understand that our forces are offered peacefully. Forrester, your forces have consistently raided those in opposition to my own. I offer you support in the battles raging now. If you will open your passages we will move some of our skills within the earth so that we might harvest the wealth of the underdark together. Edena I am unaware of which human establishments are under my control. Edena, I do not really know the level of technology that I have available for me. If that could be filled in for me I think my posts on that subject could be more helpful. Furthermore, Forrester the best way to feed those millions of troops is with industrial machinery working in the background. If you bolster my defenses I will keep your troops fed and I can help build supply lines (steam powered trains) to the front lines. There is nothing greater, Forrester, than watching your enemies explode in blood from a single rifle shot, or from the blast of a cannon! I wish to send emissaries to halruaa and Thay. I believe that my new recruitment policy needs to be implemented here. If these nations are truly destroyed I will accept the loyalty of the recently crushed. These mages can be employed with my forces. I suppose we shall have to embrace diversity. The humanoids I think were simply oppressed rather than evil . Additionally, I want to reestablish my relations with the dragons. The elves destruction of magic should have put them in thorough disfavor with the gigantic winged beasts! I want them back and I want larger and more powerful weapons in their hands! Furthermore, I want research done in the field of explosives. Special focus should be given to explosives of a large size, perhaps so large that dragons might drop them...(sounds like the airforce ) This research can bolster siege engines as well. If i dont have cased ammo yet then I want a research focus on ammunition available. If need be the priests of Gond can aid me in this research by communing with their god. However, let me stress that magic is not needed to get the technology to work it is only a useful enhancer. The magic can be more than that, but the technology should work on its own! Buzzard you have my support. Edena I have one request, can you work this by submission. We can each provide a submission each day or so and then expect it to be updated. Lets slow down the pace a bit so we can all be in on the fun. I missed like two years when I went to grab some dinner . Anyhow, its been fun. I really want to hear about these wonderful humanoids wielding some of the nations wonderful technology! TheBalor Member posted 04-10-2001 12:58 AM Goddamnit, this is aggravating. I want to SLEEP, but I can't without you guys posting..JUST STOP,OK?! ------------------ If history is to change,let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If it is my destiny to die, then I must simply laugh.-The Magus Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 12:59 AM Those are excellent sentiments, Lannon, and I urge Edena to take note of them -- especially the part about full access to weaponry. We shall not disappoint. However, you failed to add an important sentence to your missive, Lannon. I urge you to add it: "We, the Technomancy, support the humanoids fully in their effort to take Evereska -- and we would have supported them fully as soon as the issue arose. Unfortunately, I was at dinner ". Phasmus Member posted 04-10-2001 01:04 AM Good night, LightBound. Would that this world could be spared from seeing another dawn... Soon enough... soon enough. All will be made right. Regards, Phasmus T. Tapefiend: Don'Calamari, Speaker-To-Thralls, Public Representative of the Illithid, Horde-Master 1st Class. Lannon Member posted 04-10-2001 01:06 AM quote: Originally posted by Forrester: Those are excellent sentiments, Lannon, and I urge Edena to take note of them -- especially the part about full access to weaponry. We shall not disappoint. However, you failed to add an important sentence to your missive, Lannon. I urge you to add it: "We, the Technomancy, support the humanoids fully in their effort to take Evereska -- and we would have supported them fully as soon as the issue arose. Unfortunately, I was at dinner ". Agreed my belly called me away. Unfortunately, I think we will have to work with what we have left . I think together we can do more than enough. If I can pull the dragons back, after the elven fiasco, I think we can be something else. To Balor, I just now got a chance to post my own update, give me a break . Gruffmug Member posted 04-10-2001 01:07 AM A goblin archmage enters the fray bringing with him a host of Githyanki and githzerai. The githyanki lich queen is killed by me (secretly) and the blame is on illithiad. The gith. races come to a truce due to my diplomacy. However, as a concession to the the githyanki we attack the elves and their fleet. Oh, illithaid hunting parties are now every where and whoa to any who stand in our way. We ally with the humanoids. Also, I seek to gain information on this new technomancy and steal elven secrets of spelljammer building. Soon, fleets of orcs spelljamers shall be seen in wildspace once again. Nok goblin defiler, wildmage, chromancer resident of limbo. "Who is the master" "Shonuff" [This message has been edited by Gruffmug (edited 04-10-2001).] Reprisal Member posted 04-10-2001 01:22 AM I may be over-stepping my bounds, but I will be the Technocracy's tentative representative. As this representative, I will formally ally my factions within the Technocracy with the humanoid forces under Forrester and join Lannon at the stockades against the Illithids and the Elves. (Post Edit) Once more, I have re-read the posts concerning the dwarves, and I would believe that those countries under the banner of the Technocracy would recognize the Dwarven neutrality. At the same time though, I would not doubt that the men would send aid in the form of healers (magic or otherwise), foodstuffs and livestock. The dwarves are known to be a potent ally, if not militarily, then perhaps economically. We trade what they want for what we want... How well do you think certain dwarves would be at machining cannon barrels? We would ask them to simply work the machines, which we would supply to them free of charge. In exchange, we would require that a portion of their metal workers help craft quality cannon and musket barrels. As for the elves, they can go kiss Whoever's the Honcho in the Abyss for all I care. The human nations under the technocratic banner would probably say the same thing, and support the dwarves in their call for military trials against those responsible for the catastrophe. I doubt it'd do anything on the elven side, but the dwarves know where we stand, and that's good enough for me. I would also call out to Forrester to keep his hordes under control when it comes to the dwarves, I am well aware of the bad blood between the dwarves and the races under Forrester. Can I get this from you, Forrester? If so, there's a shipment of newly machined cannon and a full assortment of different shot for your armies. This way, you will have more than mere catapults and ballistae. A sign of good will, both to the dwarves and to the humanoids. ((On a side note, I doubt human nations would trust the humanoids farther than arms length. I hope they will understand. Strange bedfellows and all that, eh Forrester?)) Rep. ------------------ "Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus [This message has been edited by Reprisal (edited 04-10-2001).] DarwinofMind Member posted 04-10-2001 01:24 AM Wow, I go away for one measily little day and this thread doulbes in size. Couldn't you hold the war just for 24 hours, Anyways, If the Illithids Psionics worked during the Month of Terror So did mine, Not ever having been plane walking before and seeing big troulbe everywhere, I ducked out. (Cowerdly but for good reason.) I've been roaming about, and Have now returned, with all the knowledge, and forces, and technology I could gather all over the Multiverse. (Didn't get to visit a few places, Krynn, Athas, Ravenloft. But went nearly everywhere else.) Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-10-2001 01:36 AM Evereska, the elven nation that has stood since before the Dawn of Netheril, since the Rise of Man, falls to the humanoids. Lannon and Reprisal make it possible, for they can speak for the technomancy. Evereska falls. Gleeful orcs swarm over the defenses, putting ancient trees and monuments to the torch, smashing and hacking. Elven homes of crystal and marble shatter at the blows of gnolls. A vast cloud of smoke goes up from the stricken city. Armed with firearms from the Technomancy, the humanoids mow down the elven defenders, and elven fighter and elven civilian fall alike - the humanoids make no distinction. It is a massacre. When it is over, all the elven women and children that remain are chained and taken away, to be led into thralldom in the dens of the humanoids, or to slave away for the Technomancy. (Yes, Lannon and Reprisal, this is on your hands. Whatever happens next, you take the consequences! ) - - - To Forester: You are correct. The humanoids HAVE been setting up weapons factories, very secretly and quietly. While the surface cities have been pounded into rubble, and the big guns have roared above, the humanoids have quietly and quickly been building weapons factories underground. So yes, the humanoids - especially the kobolds! - have access to firearms, explosives, and other destructive technology. - - - The dwarves WOULD have listened to your offer, Lannon/Reprisal, but upon hearing of the destruction of Evereska by humanoids, they are unhappy. They do wish the elves to hand over Queen Amlaruil and Company for trial, but they do not support the destruction of the ancient elven civilization by savage humanoids, and the enslavement of the remaining elves by them. They remain neutral. Lannon, both Thay and Halruaa were devastated by the illithid (and Thay was in total anarchy and civil war prior to that - when magic collapsed the slaves rose up) At this point the following countries are in the Technomancy: Amn Calimshan Chessenta Dambrath Impiltur Luskan Mulhorand Nimbral (just joined) Thazalar Thesk Threskel Turmish Sembia Var the Golden Ulgarth Damara, Thar, and Narfell are nominal allies of the Technomancy. The following nations are with the Elven Alliance: Aglarond The Akanal Ashanath (although just barely) Candlekeep Chondath All the elves left in Cormanthyr Cormyr The Great Dale (has switched sides) The High Forest The Moonshaes Lantan Neverwinter Rashemen Sespech Tethyr The Lord's Alliance Unther Westgate Thay was with the Technomancy, but it is now out of the war. Luruar, Waterdeep, and Halruaa were with the elves, but they are now out of the war. [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).] Reprisal Member posted 04-10-2001 01:43 AM Posted an edit for my above post, sorry about that, I hadn't known that we're all watching this thread like the perverbial vultures. Yes, I understand the responsibility involved in my actions and I forsee the humanoids turning as soon as the Illithids are dealt with... We are putting the pieces in place. Rep. ------------------ "Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 01:49 AM quote: Originally posted by Edena_of_Neith: Evereska, the elven nation that has stood since before the Dawn of Netheril, since the Rise of Man, falls to the humanoids. .... It is a massacre. When it is over, all the elven women and children that remain are chained and taken away, to be led into thralldom in the dens of the humanoids, or to slave away for the Technomancy. Don't forget lunch! Well, as of now it seems as though the Technomancy is fully cooperating with us -- meaning that while no doubt we are working on our own technology and such (just as the Israelis might), we can also rely a good deal on our allies the Technomancy (just as the Israelis do w/regard to the US). Excellent. Any other elven outposts of note to bring down, or is it time to determine whether action need be taken against the Illithids? Please let me know how far we are from wiping out the elven race on this world. Ah . . goblin and kobold Spelljammer ships. As Cartman would say, "Sweeeeeeet!" DarwinofMind Member posted 04-10-2001 01:52 AM You know we have pretty much destroyed FR, Anyway, I bring my new found knowledge to the Technomancy, Any worries about inferror technology are gone as There are countless planes with higher tech. Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 02:01 AM Yes, Reprisal, we are quite aware that you surface-dwellers will not fully trust us. However, we have little grudge against you -- in fact, none at this point. You have let the elves brainwash you . . . we may have some violent peoples among us, but we are not an unjust people. But we ARE a cautious one. Meaning we'll be sure to check the equipment you send us for latent magical boobytraps and such . . . we wiped out the elves, be forewarned that any treachery on your part will result in cannons being pointed in a direction you would not like. On that note -- we will let the dwarves be for now. Not that we could not overrun them and kill them with ease, given our greater numbers and superior technology. But in all honesty, we have far more hatred for elven and illithid arrogance than for dwarven stubbornness. We can understand stubbornness. But elitist snotty arrogance -- well, the time for vengeance is at hand. Edena -- I noticed that there were a lot of elvish areas left. Given that we probably outnumber them 20 to 1 (as they are one race, and we are many, and any of our races' members ALONE outnumber them!), AND have cannon and rifles and far better technology than they do . . . well, how long until we completely and totally wipe them out? Modify your answer depending on whether we have the Dragons on our side, of course. We will make sure that the elven menace is snuffed out, once and for good -- afterwards, let us discuss what to do about these squid-heads. As far as alliances with the human races . . . again, we will grudgingly accept them. If they do not move against us, and perhaps RESPECT us for the first time in a millenia, then we will let them live. FINAL point: we welcome with half-open arms our new allies, the gith. The enemy of our enemy is our friend. Though we would like some proof that Gruffmug is actually a goblin, of course, and has humanoid interests at heart. If you are fully on my side, Gruffmug, the elves will fall within weeks, perhaps days. What do you say? Forrester Bane of Evereska [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-10-2001).] Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 02:07 AM Stupid dwarves. Savage humanoids indeed. We would not be savages if we were not constantly attacked from below by Drow and Illithid, and attacked from above by elf and human and, yes, dwarf. Well, the savages have fire-sticks now. Big fire-sticks. And unlike most savages, we know how to build more. (Not that you folks necessarily know that.) I suggest to the dwarves that they keep their ARROGANCE in check. The elves had it coming. Forrester (who still is far more irritated at the elves and illithids) johnbrown Member posted 04-10-2001 02:14 AM ( To Edena ? Your welcome) Again, Sorry for interrupting and forgive me if this hast been mentioned before, but why aren?t those groups who are fighting the mind flayers using some of those Realms portals I keep reading about and getting mercenaries from other worlds if you are so short on manpower. Help from say?.Oerth? There are a few powerful people -- Tenser, Jallarzi, maybe Bigby, and Otto ? who would recognize that a threat of such magnitude could easily spill over into the Flanaess (although the rest of the Circle of Eight would probably stay out of it). Not only that, countries like Perrenland, The Domain of Greyhawk, The Northern Kingdom and Ahlissa will send mercenaries anywhere if the cash was right (as long as you don?t mind working with evils in the case of The Northern Kingdom and Ahlissa). You could also call on the Fists Of Hextor (again evil but bodies are bodies) Heck, Iuz and/or Rary might be willing to lend some orcs to the ?humanoids? for a few examples of those nifty bang sticks they have (once again evil). Queen Yolande of Celene might be willing to help out the elves. Not much help available from the other ?good? countries, I?m afraid. They have their own problems right now and really can?t spare the manpower?.. Anyway just a thought, let the war continue?. [This message has been edited by johnbrown (edited 04-10-2001).] [This message has been edited by johnbrown (edited 04-10-2001).] Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-10-2001 02:20 AM Two MORE armies now enter the fray. A githyanki and githzerai army under the command of Gruffmug's goblin. This army joins the Technomancy, apparently. A second smaller force under Darwin of Mind, consisting of all manner of free-booters, adventurers, and Outsiders, not to mention clerics willing to spread the faith, has come from the other Spheres. This force also joins the Technomancy. However! ... The Dragons do NOT join the Technomancy. The Dragons, among the most powerful of Toril's beings, are with the Faerie Folk, and THEY are against EVERYONE who is continuing this war. They wish peace, and they want it now. However, nobody has bothered to listen to their pleas for peace. A note: The Faerie Folk and their allies have now become the single most powerful force on Toril, because: Nobody has been fighting them They have been calling vast numbers of Faerie from the Outer Planes They have been calling vast numbers of allied Outsiders from those Planes They have nearly all the dragons, and all of the oldest and wisest ones are with them. Guess what, folks? The dwarves just joined THEM. Now, someone asked: where is the next elven target? That would be Evermeet. The sacred homeland, the land of sanctuary, the final place of retreat, for the elves for 50,000 years. Evermeet is ruled by Queen Amlaruil, it is defended by the Elven Imperial Navy, and it is separated from the mainland by a vast ocean. Evermeet is going to be TEN TIMES harder to take than Evereska was. There are also smaller groups of elves on the mainland. ALL the countries listed as being on the side of the elves, are fighting on their side right now, and protecting them. (See the list about 3 to 5 posts up.) The Technomancy and it's enemies are in bad shape. Think of Europe during the war. Cities are in ruins, the countryside depopulated. The war machine is still partially intact, and what is intact is concentrated in certain areas. In these areas, protected by all the magic that can be mustered, a feverish effort is being made to fully rebuild the war machine fully, and to expand the effort to other centers of production. Because of the intervention of the humanoids, who formed a wall of protection, much of this work has been done. But much still needs to be done. It is now the 5th year of the War. Deaths are now in the hundreds of thousands. Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 02:28 AM Edena -- actually, Gruffmug said that he was joining the humanoids, specifically, not the Technomancy. He also said explicitly that he was attacking the elven fleet. I also have to quibble a little bit with the comparison of the situation as "Europe after the War". The war was a very even contest. We outnumber our foe and we outgun them as well. This is more like the colonial U.S. against the Indians. The U.S. expanded quite quickly given its greater numbers and better technology, even considering the Indian wars . . . I know the comparison isn't *completely* fair, but I think it's closer than Europe after the war . . . ! Forrester Worried About Big Dumb Dragons Getting People To Summon Fiendish Outsiders Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 02:33 AM Okay, allies. My suggestion is that we let Evermeet sit for now. No doubt the damn Dragons would IMMEDIATELY intercede. God forbid the elves lose their crappy little homeland. However, it sounds to ME like we can take the rest of the continent (continents? I have no idea what the map looks like) with more ease. In other words, rid everywhere BUT Evermeet of elves. We'll let the human allies of the elves live (unless they get in our way) -- after the elves have been wiped out, we'll plea for peace, of course. Edena -- how difficult would that be? Could we do it fairly quickly, if we haven't done most of it already in the last five years? Boom-sticks! Forrester This topic is 16 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 All times are Central Time (US) This is an ARCHIVED topic. You may not reply to it! Hop to: Contact Us | D&D 3rd Edition News Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.47b Note: This is an archived topic. It is read-only. D&D 3rd Edition News Board Other Archived Stuff What would your PCs do if gnomes invented the Industrial Revolution? (Page 9) UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! profile | register | preferences | faq | search This topic is 16 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 This topic was originally posted in this forum: General RPG Discussion Author Topic: What would your PCs do if gnomes invented the Industrial Revolution? Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-10-2001 02:33 AM The reason it is like Europe after the war is because early in the game someone invited all the dragons into the war! A single ancient dragon is a match for a large town, and two or three of them a small city. There were hundreds of dragons involved, and their specific instructions were to: attack cities and industrial areas. In other words, to attack densely populated areas. As I previously stated quite a while back, tens of thousands of civilians were killed, and entire regions terrorized. Flights of dragons are no joke. Now the dragons are all allied with the Faerie Folk. Better pay attention when their leader talks ... - - - To answer your question, Forrester, you are nowhere close to taking all of Faerun, for the simple reason that Estlor and his Faerie Folk and their Dragons and their new allies the dwarves are opposing you. The elves and their allied nations are still fighting desperately, too. But Estlor has MASSIVE force backing him, force almost equalling yours. [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).] Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 02:37 AM Edena -- oh, most of that happened early in the war. Okay. I thought you were implying that my humanoid forces had taken heavy losses, which I don't think should be the case. Some losses, yes, but not disproportionate ones. Combine that with our greater numbers, and we're kicking ass. (We lose 200,000 forces, no big deal. The elves lose 200,000, there's not many of them left. And we should lose FEWER than the others due to our vastly better technology -- so maybe only 50,000.) Forrester Happy to be eatin' elf ears Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 02:38 AM Eek! The DRAGONS are now opposing us?! You didn't tell me THAT before. Hmmmmmm. That's not good. I'll sign off for the night . . . but if the Dragons are entering, we'll concentrate far more on entrenching and holding the areas we've taken, as opposed to conquering new areas. Which certainly might be interpreted as a move for "peace". But we're not budging. Meanwhile, the kobold factories of the Underdark (ever vigilant against possible Illithid movements and hopefully aided with information by their new allies the Gith, led by Gruffmug), continue to churn and develop, churn and develop, churn and develop . . . Forrester the Worried Edit: EDENA, question: What (likely elven) areas other than Evereska did my hordes manage to raze during the 5-year period before the Dragons entered the war? [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-10-2001).] Reprisal Member posted 04-10-2001 02:49 AM Are all of the Dragon's allied with the Faery folk? If so, I would like to know how the evil ones get along with the good ones. I always thought that chromatics and metallics (and others) were more akin to Celestials and Fiends, and less like mere racial competitors. Just a thought, Rep. ------------------ "Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus DarwinofMind Member posted 04-10-2001 02:54 AM Ok, Toril is (was) a place of very powerful people. Many of these people had moved away to far off planes but upon hearing their homeland was in danger of total destruction returned home with me. At this point my group is mostly interested in stoping this whole thing, We are no opposing the Fairy folk beucase they have the same goal but they are trying diplomacy. We don't believe it will work. The Technomacy never began the war and truely has never made a serious offensive. The remaining forces that are truely loyal to the Technomancy, (And I don't see much) we will leave and negotiate with further after things setle down. The elves started this and infact have cuased more damage than anything else. But they have also taken large amounts of damage. At this point I believe the Elves are no longer a threat. Whether this is true remains to be seen. Forresters humaniods are a serious threat to the idea of stoping this war but it is hoped that we can negotiate with them. We will try to get them to recognize the amount of damage this war has done to the world, and that if it keeps up no one wins. And of course there is always bribery if that fails. If we can get them to stop their attacks on the elves, But keep "on guard." That way the elves are no longer a threat. The only force that simply cannot be negotiated with is the Mind-Flayers, We will have to destroy them. This action is currently being planned. Hopefully to be executed by my PlaneWalkers, with the help of the Technomacy. -edit- Ok this game is additive. But I'm going to sleep have to be up early tomarrow don't destroy the multiverse while I'm gone. [This message has been edited by DarwinofMind (edited 04-10-2001).] Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 03:11 AM Darwin -- we'll see . . . perhaps a short peace, er, I mean, a peace of indeterminate length is called for. I want a few more details on how much of the surface we now control. Hey. Weren't the dragons incredibly p.o.'d at the elves? They're going to join the elves' side just because some humanoids are wreaking a little vengeance? We humanoids never did nothin' to THEM. We don't get no respect. Forrester Dangerfield Reprisal Member posted 04-10-2001 03:22 AM Aye, Darwin speaks the truth, though the fires of battle were high at the beginning of the war, I would believe that now that the great enemy (the Elves) have been battled back. Whether they recognize that they have no place in interfering with the sovereignty of any other state remains to be seen. If they yield and return to their own devices (and only their own devices), I will also throw my hat into the arena of negotiations. The problem, now, is whether or not the Humanoids will go along with this... I believe I will send a letter straight to Forrester and ask that he attend the negotiations. I would also ask the dwarves to mediate, since they claim neutrality. Also, I would have a few proposals: (1a) The outer rim of the elven lands who took part in the war would be annexed by the humanoids as a buffer zone between the Technocracy and the elven nations. (1b) The specific races involved should be those that are suited to above ground battling: Ogres, Trolls, Hobgoblins and Orcs. Others would be charged with helping out in the battle against the new enemy in the Illithids in a defensive formation. We do not attack until we have hammered out an agreement. (2a) Those who have been concerned with the defeat of the Illithids will be called to the table as well. As a result, there should be an emphasis on the pacification of the Illithid-conquered territories. (2b) The Technocracy would be able to send troops and other personell to aide the battle against the Illithids since the humanoids should be able to hold back the elves if they believe they can break out. (3a) I would still believe that the primary enemy of the Technomantic forces is still the elves, until they capitulate, they will forever remain enemies. I think that's it for now, plus, I think I should stop posting until at least tomorrow afternoon, we hardcores are leaving those who work in a disadvantage. Rep. ------------------ "Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-10-2001 03:43 AM WAR UPDATE #5 - - - The Elven Alliance (Total Power Level 5) Spokesman: Blood Jester Goal: World Domination Nations: Aglarond (civilization center, severe damage) The Akanal (nation, moderate damage) Candlekeep (city, heavy damage) Chondath (nation, heavy damage) All the elves of Cormanthyr (small settlements, severe damage to region) Cormyr (civilization center, severe damage) The Dalelands (small nations, severe damage) Evereska (elven civilization center, destroyed, out of the war) Evermeet (homeland of all the elves, light damage) Halruaa (civilization center, destroyed, out of the war) The Great Dale (nation, heavy damage) The Elves of the High Forest (small countries, light damage) Luruar (civilization center, severe damage, out of the war) Lantan (island nation, light damage) Lapaliiya (nation, light damage) Luiren (halfling homeland, undamaged) The Moonshaes (series of islands and nations, moderate damage) Neverwinter (elven nation, heavy damage) Rashemen (nation, severe damage) Sespech (nation, light damage) Shadowdale (civilization center, severe damage) Unther (nation, moderate damage) Westgate (city, heavy damage) - Allies of the Elven Alliance The Elven Imperial Navy of Wildspace (a vast armada of spelljammers, with many allies) (light to moderate damage) Goal (of the Elven Imperial Navy): World Domination and Domination of Realmspace - - - The Technomancer Confederation (Total Power Level 7) Spokesmen: Lannon, Reprisal Goal: Creating a dominant position in Faerun, Security, Freedom to continue their research Nations: Amn (nation, moderate damage) Calimshan (civilization center, light damage) Chessenta (nation, moderate damage) Damara (humanoid nation, severe damage) Dambrath (nation, light damage) Estagund (nation, undamaged) Impiltur (nation, heavy damage) Luskan (seaport city, severe damage) Mulhorand (civilization center, heavy damage) Mulmaster (city state, moderate damage) Murghorn (nation, moderate damage) Narfell (humanoid nation, severe damage) Nimbral (island mage nation, moderate damage) Ruathym (island nation, undamaged) Samorach (nation, light damage) Tashalar (nation, undamaged) Thar (humanoid nation, heavy damage) Thazalhar (nation, heavy damage) Thesk (nation, severe damage) Thindol (nation, light damage) Threskel (nation, moderate damage) Turmish (nation, light damage) Sembia (civilization center, light damage) Var the Golden (civilization center, undamaged) Ulgarth (nation, undamaged) Zhentil Keep (city and confederation, light damage) Allies of the Technomancer Confederation: The humanoid hordes of the Underdark, and many surface lands: estimated at several million strong. Primary types: kobolds, orcs, goblins, hobgoblins, gnolls, bugbears Goal (of the Humanoid Forces): Annihilation of the elves, territory for themselves Spokesman for the Humanoids: Forrester The Legions of the Githyanki The Legions of the Githzerai Spokesman for the Githyanki and allies: Gruffmug Goal (of the Githyanki): To aid the humanoids against the Elven Alliance Several vast fleets of ships, and hosts of mages and men from: The continent of Zakhara, and many of the Nations therein. Goal (of the Nations of Zakhara): Access to new technologies, profit - - - The Faerie Folk (Total Power Level 7) Spokesman: Estlor Goal: Peace (except for the Illithid - the goal there is annihilation) Nations: The Seelie Court, and the Hosts of Faerie Allies of the Faerie Folk A vast force of Outsiders from the Upper Planes, especially from Arborea A vast force of animals and intelligent plants across all of Faerun Almost all of the good dragons of Faerun (and some from other continents) A greater number of the neutral dragons of Faerun (and some from other continents) A few of the evil dragons of Faerun (and a couple from other continents) ((The remaining dragons are Neutral, or they attack all sides)) A large force from the Trackless Sea, consisting heavily of merfolk, dolphins, and other good or neutral aligned sea creatures that desire peace. A smaller force from the Inner Sea, consisting of the same elements. ((The sahuagin and other evil sea creatures have not taken sides)) Most of the dwarven nations of Faerun. All of the surviving gnomish nations of Faerun. (That's right, they have defected. Fed up with the Technomancy and what they call it's ruthless tactics, they've opted to join with the Faerie, even if that means giving up their technology!) Nearly all of the halflings of Faerun. All the Allies of the Faerie Folk have the same goals as the Faerie Folk. - - - The Illithid (total power level 8) Spokesmen: Phasmus Goal: Annihilation or total subjugation of all other races, elimination of the sun Nations: All the illithid nations of Faerun, joined by all the illithid nations of the entire world of Toril Allies of the Illithid The enslaved phaerimm (an awesome power for destruction) The enslaved wizards taken Below (thousands of them) The enslaved humans, demi-humans, and humanoids taken Below (tens of thousands of them) The artifacts taken from Myth Drannor (these are not sentient per se, but they are of awesome power) The artifacts and knowledge taken from Candlekeep (again, not sentient, but of awesome power) The artifacts and knowledge taken from Silverymoon (some of these of very extreme power) - - - The Planeswalkers Spokesmen: Darwin of Mind, Riot Gear (Total Power Level 1) Goal: Peace (and like the Faerie, the annihilation of the Illithid) This is a large force of adventurers, opportunists, clerics hoping to convert a new world, mages seeking spells, Outsiders either summoned or freely joining, and others come to the World of Toril from other Spheres and other Realms. It is the end of the 5th year of the War. [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).] Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 04:01 AM Edena -- earlier you said that Mystra was currently too weak to get revenge against the elves, and that what they wreaked would last for millenia. Given this fact, would it make sense that the Chosen of Mystra are allied with the elves? Damn elves. I suggest to my allies that it seems likely that most of the elves' allies are there ONLY because we're doing so amazingly well -- and that if we move for peace, most of those allies will retreat back into the netherspace or higher planes or whatnot. Back to wherever they came from. After all, we did nothing to p!ss off Mystra -- the elves did. We didn't screw with the dwarves -- the elves did. We didn't suck away the dragons' powers, or make it so that outsiders coming to this plane would die -- the elves did. Peace for now, I *suggest*. (But I'll make an official decision after reading all your posts tomorrow . . . ) Oh -- I noted in a post on page 6 or 7 that we humanoids wanted to go artifact-collecting as well -- and I'm guessing we could get to some of those places faster than the Illithids. Did we get anything tasty? (Finally -- power level 7?! That's the Technocracy AND the Humanoid Hordes? Don't we outnumber the elves and their allies at least 10 to 1, and outgun them as well? I had the sense that were it not for the Faere, we could have taken the elves *easily*. I don't even know that they outmagic us by very much now that we have those folks from Nimbral and the Gith on our side. I ask that you reconsider the power ratings given these facts -- or assign different power ratings for the Technocracy and the Humanoids/Gith. Your call, of course -- you are the DM! This whole thing is very cool, by the way.) Forrester Diplomat Extraordinaire Noter of Fact that Elves from Evereska are Spicier Than Normal [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-10-2001).] Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 04:14 AM ACK! I am shocked, Edena, SHOCKED. The goal of the humanoid hordes is hardly WORLD DOMINATION. I'm surprised at you. No . . . our immediate goal is far simpler. Elimination of the Elvish Race. Once and for all. We might be able to live peaceably with other races, once that blemish has been erased from the multiverse. Especially the good humans of the Technomancy. We don't trust them completely, of course, but that's not the same thing as saying we want to enslave them. The whole World Domination thing is more Elven. Forrester (Oh -- if you didn't already, note my comments above about the power levels . . . ) Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-10-2001 04:15 AM Excuse me. My mistake. The Chosen do not take sides. The Chosen DO try to save everything that can be saved from the ravages of this awful war (a war that beggars even the Greyhawk War in terms of total destruction) I will change the Goal of the Humanoids, as requested (chuckle) [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).] Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-10-2001 04:32 AM (( (solemn look) Early this evening, this Thread stood at 109 Posts. Now it is at 210. A gain of over 100 Posts in less than 6 hours. In all my history online, I have never witnessed the like, and I am betting I will never witness it again. I think this Thread has the potential to go for 1,000 Posts. People love a good romp. - - - I wish to plead with the Moderators to leave this Thread open, and not lock it. I wish to plead that it be left here on this forum (general RPG discussion,) where people will see it and post to it. Let us continue, and see where it goes. That is my plea. Yours Sincerely Edena_of_Neith)) [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).] [/QUOTE]

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