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<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 1302670" data-attributes="member: 2020"><p><strong>(Post 7) Thread One of the 1st IR</strong></p><p></p><p>Blood Jester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 04:46 AM </p><p></p><p> World Domination? Somewhat of a paraphrase.</p><p></p><p> *sigh*</p><p> Oh well...</p><p></p><p> [OOC - Folks, work is a harsh mistress, I will be out of action until tonight. Try not to run away with the</p><p> world.]</p><p></p><p> Edena, the Elven forces consolidate. Those areas too savaged to be defensible are abandoned, all peoples</p><p> (not just Elves) are offered evacuation via Spelljammer, or Teleport w/o Error. The military's only duty during</p><p> these evacuations will be to protect the evacuees. Those areas that, by nature of the terrain/architecture are</p><p> strategically sound are reinforced (physically and magically, as well as with troops). All non-essential Elven</p><p> civilians are withdrawn to Evermeet. A dedicated campaign of rebuilding lost forces is begun. Since the</p><p> negotiations for 'trials' has broken down, we still have a few members of our High Mage Council left. They</p><p> begin to train replacements, and to research new magic. (Mystra may be upset with us, but Azuth is the god</p><p> of Magical Knowledge, our resarch and development of new spells, even the Big One, should sit well with</p><p> him.) To counter the strenuous efforts to build our forces, large celebrations are thrown weekly, courtship is</p><p> made especially...easy. (Elves have always been casual about breeding, we now try a little harder. )</p><p></p><p> If the Dwarves have truly decided to turn their backs on their oldest allies (even if there has been</p><p> disagreement, when all is said and done the Elves and Dwarves have always stood together), and are willing</p><p> to let another elder race fall to humans and orcs/goblinoids...That is their choice, their honor is washed away</p><p> with the blood of our people. They stood back from the beginning, little else is expected of them.</p><p></p><p> The Elves also turn (in secret) to an ignored race in the realms to request an alliance. A race that,</p><p> historically, only the elves treated with respect, and guardianship. A race that actually enjoyed a great</p><p> victory as a result of the Elven actions.</p><p> .</p><p> .</p><p> .</p><p> Halflings.</p><p></p><p> [More to come, but I really do lack time due to work.]</p><p></p><p> Blood Jester</p><p></p><p> zouron</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 05:25 AM </p><p></p><p> Now my assult to eliminate the powerful spellcasters seem to have failed, now the time to gain a stronghold</p><p> of power for the magic forces, I call all those who wishes to preserver magic and strengthing themselves and</p><p> others under my banner, technomancy, elves fairie folks? now it is time to unleash the hordes of undead I</p><p> have gathered, educate more necromancers to fill out the ranks of undead (remember there are animate</p><p> spells in necromancers handbook below level 5), the goal is to secure a whole nation for our research no</p><p> more no less, this include the underdark directly below, I will even try ally myself with the drows for them to</p><p> keep peace in the underdark. I will attempt to recruit more spell casters from all sides that might wish to do</p><p> so, offering spells that will gain the edge for them as trade item. Perhaps you say undead are not a force to</p><p> take as serious? remember I am my allies can control even the most powerful undead to do our bidding and</p><p> my strong hold on the face and the demiplane created for this is specifically devoted to amges and and</p><p> commoners, yes we do have fields magically enhanced to provide more resources, I have been trading</p><p> resources for a some time. Now let us use it, using the best techniques availbel, combining magic</p><p> technomancy and the old ways of swords and magic weapons, the powers of the rest less undead. we do not</p><p> seek to win the war just secure our own. Dragons come join us and we will give spoils of gold and magic for</p><p> your hordes, destroy lour enemies with us and we will pay taxes to you. </p><p></p><p> Humanoids, we never liked you, but shamns and witchdocors come join our ranks we have the power, devote</p><p> yourself to the ways of power and magic and grasp the land for yourself, take revenge over the hyordes tha</p><p> banished you to the udnerdark so long ago.</p><p></p><p> the time for drawing the line in the sand is now, no longer will the I nor my allies have to live in uncertainty</p><p> of a silly war, having our fields libraries, caves and dwellings destroy, the dead will walk and take land for us.</p><p></p><p> beware world take your silly war elsewhere</p><p></p><p> Signed</p><p> zouron</p><p></p><p> buzzard</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 08:16 AM </p><p></p><p> Geez, I just stop reading the net for a few hours and I'm 3 pages behind. What's a carrion eater to do?</p><p></p><p> OK as one of the Techies, I'll have to add my opinion as to direction. First off, it looks to me like the Elves</p><p> have paid enough for now. Their presence and influence outside of Evermeet is essentially gone. They have</p><p> paid pretty dearly for the damage they have done. We can allow a truce for the moment in the interest of</p><p> deflecting the Faeries wrath (and give us time to make a fleet of Ironclads to really teach those pointy eared</p><p> bozos a lesson). Once a fleet is built, we can decide if we wish to wipe them out. Elvish war galleys will be a</p><p> joke in the face of a broadside volley of cannon. </p><p></p><p> The Illithid scare me, and I beseech all right thinking races to at least investigate where they went. I can't</p><p> imagine that they're up to any good given the resources they acquired. An expedition must be sent down to</p><p> find out what we can. I say we ask for a truce with the Faerie, and start an expeditionary force of humans</p><p> (combat engineers, artillery, and snipers), Humanoids (cannon fodder), dwarves (sappers, and other combat</p><p> engineers), Githyanki (psionic support), and some small fairies for scouting. We have to find out what the</p><p> Illithids are up to. They would not have given up their foothold on the surface for no reason. </p><p></p><p> Militarily, I'd be concentrating on finding some of the best thieves and rangers in the land and training them</p><p> to be Sharpshooters. I don't imagine even Illithids will be too perky with a 50 cal piece of lead popping them</p><p> in the head, and the ranges are much greater than those of psionics. A well hidden group of snipers at 500</p><p> yards can wreak some serious havok. For close quarters work people are issues 8 and 10 gague shotguns</p><p> (double barrel breechloaders)</p><p></p><p> As for the Humanoids, I do value these allies. I also hope some of our ideas beyond technology have taken</p><p> root (the individual freedom, and capitalist notions). If not, we'll have to be cautious. In any case I don't</p><p> see how they can manage technical parity. The key points to a technical society are the engineers and</p><p> technicians, and they don't have them. Also, even if they did enslave some of these people,(which wouldn't</p><p> have made the alliance very happy) slaves don't work very well and certainly don't innovate. </p><p></p><p> All of the details of even railroad era technology are pretty complicated. Why do you think the Europeans</p><p> dominated the world for so long? Orneriness? Nope, it was superior logistics, technology, and organization.</p><p> None of which are hallmarks of the humanoids. As long as they cooperate with us we will provide arms and</p><p> support. We will not, however, be willing to establish factories for them, nor will be train them in all of the</p><p> technology. We mean no disrespect, but we've seen what has happened to us when we demonstrated our</p><p> technology in the past.</p><p></p><p> Buzzard</p><p></p><p> Gruffmug</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 09:04 AM </p><p></p><p> Already being done buzzard of the technocracy. However, We ask for improved rifles for our intelligence as</p><p> we need better weapons to make our raid more effective.</p><p></p><p> We the Gith and scro alliance begin a ruthless assault on elven communities. Revenge for our defeat in the</p><p> Unhuman War. We unleash our most terrible weapon ,astral dragons. The skys are filled with spelljammers.</p><p> Landing parties of spellcasting Scro land and reinforce the humanoids and hope to receive better</p><p> Technology. We ask no quarter and give none.</p><p></p><p> We contact the "shou-long" kara-tur ministry.</p><p></p><p> The Gith begin raids into the underdark. Upon seeing the danger, all gith every where rally for fear of an</p><p> new illithiad empire. Gith are recalled from gasp "darksun" if possible. We will begin summoning outsiders to</p><p> fight for us. We try and free or kill the phaerimm and the mages during raids to weaken the illithiad</p><p> position. Astral hopping gith attempt to steal magic items from illithiads. We know what it is like to be under</p><p> the yoke of the illithiad. Anything would be better than that.</p><p></p><p> We also contact both the planeswalkers through Darwinofmind and the mages in seclusion through Zouron</p><p> to negotiate an nonaggression pack and possible alliance against the illithiad.</p><p></p><p> Off to class</p><p> Nok</p><p> "who is the master"</p><p> "Shunuff"</p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Gruffmug (edited 04-10-2001).]</p><p></p><p> DarwinofMind</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 09:24 AM </p><p></p><p> (Sorry, can't summon from DarkSun, Nothing enters or leaves Athis, it's sealed from the multiverse.</p><p> Otherwise I would have brought back some really good psionics.)</p><p></p><p> We are willing to ally ourselves with the gith for the destruction of the Mind-Flayers, if there can be an</p><p> agreement that the Elves keep Evermeet, It's all they seem to have left, and we look down on there</p><p> complete extermination. They will be monitored much like Germany after WW2, After that big blow they are</p><p> not to be trusted anymore.</p><p></p><p> Forrester. I read above that you have dug in, entrenched and moved to a defensive stance on your own.</p><p> This is exactly what the Planewalkers wished from you all along. We are quite willing to let you keep all</p><p> lands that you concured from the elves and we will work with the Technomancy to help you support</p><p> yourselves. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> Estlor</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 09:39 AM </p><p></p><p> Ah, during my absence I was busy </p><p></p><p> My orders to the Fair Folk and their allies was to continue to push against the illithids and, in the meantime,</p><p> take no sides. Any that causes a serious threat to another faces combined guerilla tactics of the races.</p><p></p><p> And then we bring the Celestials in on our side, beseeching the gods of goodness and order to grant us</p><p> strength to overcome.</p><p></p><p> And, with the combined aid of the sages of the fairies, celestials, dragons, undersea folk, dwarves, halflings,</p><p> and the remaning druids that are not totally killed, I uncover the weapon that illithids truly fear.</p><p></p><p> The Annus.</p><p></p><p> This artifact (found in the PsiHB) is capable of destroying specific psionic targets (in addition to disrupting</p><p> psionics around the holder of the artifact). I can direct it to target the entire illithid race. This will, of course,</p><p> destroy the artifact, but it will remove the illithid.</p><p></p><p> Thus, I teleport them a message. It reads:</p><p></p><p> Leaders of the Illithid, hear my words. I, Estlor, leader of the Fair, do command you to return to the Underdark</p><p> immediately, surrendering all land and people you have captured along the way. Failure to do so will force me to</p><p> obliterate your entire race instantly. In the interest of balance I do not wish to do this, but refusal to heed my order</p><p> will leave me no choice.</p><p></p><p> Mark that I do have the Annus, an artifact of power. I will not hesitate to use it. You have been warned.</p><p></p><p> Should any illithid or illithid allies make an attempt at me directly, even if I'm not on the board to post as a</p><p> responce, I will immediately use the Annus to vaporize the entire illithid race (as I keep it with me at all</p><p> times). In the meantime, I see to it that the leaders of all the sides are made aware that the Fair have the</p><p> power to obliterate an entire faction in the span of a thought, once again requesting a peaceful meeting</p><p> between diplomats to come to some middle terms and end this senseless war.</p><p></p><p> To further back myself up, I attempt to send envoys to the elemental planes to gain the backing of the</p><p> elementals should any side directly assault my own.</p><p></p><p> ------------------</p><p> The Lighthouse Webmaster</p><p> "More conversions, less talk."</p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Estlor (edited 04-10-2001).]</p><p></p><p> DarwinofMind</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 10:05 AM </p><p></p><p> Well, I am going to be leaving again. So don't anyone destroy all of Fearun while I'm gone.</p><p></p><p> Gruffmug</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 10:31 AM </p><p></p><p> We do have access to Darksun. We control access to its crystal sphere ala spelljammer and repeated in</p><p> dragon crown or blackspine adventures I think. We always have.</p><p> We accept your condition as long as the elves never again enter wildspace.We destroy all elven communities</p><p> except Evermeet.</p><p> We secretly begin organization of the humanoid armies with Scro tactics. We also begin building a true</p><p> infrastructure for the humanoids with kobold assistance.</p><p> We enter into secret negotiations with the Thri-keen for military support. </p><p> The gith continue raiding but now they have rifles, demons, cannons and elementals supporting them. </p><p> We ask the fair to eliminate the illithiad once and for all. We may even secretly force thier hand by</p><p> mindcontroling several illithiad and making them attack the leader of the Fair Races.</p><p> If the Fair Folk fail in their task we secretly prepare the Witchlight Marauders for deployment. We don't live</p><p> in the realms(grins) There goes the neiborhood.</p><p> We also try to woo control of the gem dragons. </p><p> I repeat we will destroy the illithiad threat.</p><p></p><p> Nok</p><p> "who is the master"</p><p> "ShoNuff" </p><p></p><p> Phasmus</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 10:44 AM </p><p></p><p> Estlor, we withdrew from the surface quite some time ago. The Illithid military threat has appearantly</p><p> vanished from the face of Toril. Aside from some isolated spies and contacts, no one has seen or heard an</p><p> Illithid on the surface since a few weeks after the Month of Terror. The passages behind us were deliberately</p><p> blasted closed. I posted more detailed descriptions of where we are, what we have and what we're doing</p><p> yesterday, suffice to say we have been keeping ourselves busy during the remainder of this conflict. Ideally,</p><p> by now, our strongholds are warded against any such unpleasant outside influence, although I can not be</p><p> sure on that point. Anyone who attempts to confront us on our home turf will be doing so on our terms...</p><p> Exactly on our own terms...</p><p></p><p> Additionally:</p><p> The native leaders of the Githyanki forces are surprised to find an untrapped anonymous package delivered</p><p> to their camp. It contains several scrying-focuses and a hastily written note that reads simply "It wasn't us."</p><p> Some simple scrying procedures on the material provided reveal true perpetrator of the lich-queen's murder</p><p> [Mr. Gruffmug]. The validity of the information is easily verified. Presumably, the Githyanki are not amused.</p><p></p><p></p><p> Regards,</p><p></p><p> Phasmus & Co.</p><p></p><p> "When in doubt, use duct tape."</p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 10:55 AM </p><p></p><p> That is correct.</p><p> The illithid have completely vanished from the surface of Faerun!</p><p> They've vanished even from the Underdark, going down so deep even the deep dwarves have lost track of</p><p> them!</p><p></p><p> However, they have (as noted above) taken the captured phaerimm with them, along with captured mages,</p><p> and a lot of other beings.</p><p></p><p></p><p> The elves and their allied nations are in full scale retreat.</p><p> Behind a front line of defenders, and behind the cover of the Elven Imperial Navy, which protects the skies,</p><p> the following happens:</p><p></p><p> All the civilian population of the countries allied with the elves are evacuated to either Evermeet, Waterdeep,</p><p> Undermountain or to deeply hidden strategic places in the northwest part of Faerun, west of Anauroch and</p><p> north of the Inner Sea (where the Elven Alliance still dominates)</p><p> Of the fighting population that remains:</p><p></p><p> Aglarond consolidates it's remaining power in it's woodlands. Backing by the awesome power of the Simbul,</p><p> they refuse to budge.</p><p> The fighters of the Akanal retreat into the Chondalwood, making common cause with the elves there.</p><p> Candlekeep, along with all of it's remaining treasures, artifacts, and knowledge, is evacuated (and it's</p><p> artifacts go to Evermeet)</p><p> Chondath evacuates also into the Chondalwood, and makes common cause with the Akanal who fled there.</p><p> The elves of Cormanthyr flee to Evermeet.</p><p> The war wizards of Cormyr evacuate to Waterdeep, which is rebuilt as a massive fortress city.</p><p> Undermountain is occupied, and Halaster either kicked out or forced to join up. Undermountain is made into</p><p> a vast refuge/fortress for the Elven Alliance.</p><p> The people of the Dalelands flee to Shadowdale, which is defended by Elminster, Storm, and Sylune. There,</p><p> they build Shadowdale up until it is bristling with defenses pointed in every direction.</p><p> Evermeet is massively fortified, both above and below ground. A massive defense is on standby 24 hours a</p><p> day, in the sky over Evermeet, and another in the Underdark, below Evermeet, and another in the ocean,</p><p> around Evermeet, and another in the Ethereal and Astral Plane, where they touch Evermeet.</p><p> All the people of the Great Dale that can flee, do flee, west. To Shadowdale. Or south, to Aglarond.</p><p> Those that remain, hide.</p><p> The elves of the High Forest flee to Evermeet, but they leave terrible traps throughout the forest for</p><p> enemies. Their friends in the forest, who stay, keep watch.</p><p> Luruar concentrates it's surviving strength around Silverymoon, Mithral Hall, and Citadel Adbar (this is a case</p><p> where the dwarves are fighting for the Elven Alliance)</p><p> Lantan fortifies, and the Elven Imperial Navy sends ships to protect this island.</p><p> Lapaliiya fortifies.</p><p> Luiren, the halfling nations, has stood with the elves from the beginning, and isn't budging now. They</p><p> already occupy part of Dambrath, and now they fortify to the teeth.</p><p> The Moonshaes are a strategic set of islands, and the Elven Alliance fortifies them. Their people take cover</p><p> in the mountains of those islands.</p><p> Neverwinter, the other major elven settlement, is evacuated. Death traps of awesome power are left for any</p><p> who'd trespass into that region.</p><p> The Witches of Rashemen and their male barbarian allies aren't going anywhere, but they entrench into the</p><p> woods and underground.</p><p> Sespech is too far east to be evacuated, nor do they fully comprehend the threat. They ready themselves</p><p> for another dragon attack, and prepare to take as many of the enemy with them as possible.</p><p> Unther fortifies itself to the utmost degree, most of it's population heading into underground fortresses or</p><p> it's great, massively fortified cities.</p><p> Westgate is evacuated. It's people go to the haven of Waterdeep.</p><p></p><p> Across Faerun, elves flee from the various forests (such as the Forest of Tethyr) and small woodlands.</p><p></p><p> NOTE - The Chosen of Mystra make it clear that if Waterdeep, Undermountain, Shadowdale, Silverymoon, or</p><p> Aglarond (or ANY civilian refuge) are attacked again, they WILL fight. (If that happens, the Elven Alliance</p><p> goes up to Power Level 6, from Power Level 5)</p><p></p><p> There is a new development. The peoples of the Hordelands (think of the scythians and Mongols, with all</p><p> the attitude but with powerful magic to boot) have united.</p><p> They are gathering in great force in strategic places just east of Faerun, and it appears they are coming in.</p><p> (Before you underestimate them, remember the Mongol invasion wiped out everything from China to</p><p> Hungary to Persia, and they assailed clear to Constantinople, Egypt, India, and Japan.)</p><p></p><p> Estlor, the Annus will NOT destroy the illithid.</p><p> For the very good reason that the illithid, when they sacked Myth Drannor, Candlekeep, and Silverymoon,</p><p> found artifacts of their own that would counter such an attack.</p><p> Likewise, the illithid (and all other powers, for that matter) lack a single superweapon that will totally destroy</p><p> the other side.</p><p></p><p> EXCEPTION: The elves have Wrath of the Just. Fortunately, they haven't thrown it yet. (It would destroy</p><p> them as well as their enemies.)</p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).]</p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 11:40 AM </p><p></p><p> Zouron is able to muster a massive host of the Undead, along with the ruthless among the humanoids.</p><p> He gets a big boost when a large force of the Unseelie (evil Faerie) come to join him.</p><p></p><p> His force should now be considered Power Level One.</p><p></p><p> There is now all out war in Realmspace, between the Elven Imperial Navy and the incoming Scro and</p><p> Githzerai Spelljamming Fleets.</p><p> It goes without saying that Selune and Luna are now involved in the war (the moons of Toril.)</p><p> The inhabitants of those moons take the side of the elves!! (they do not like the scro)</p><p></p><p> The illithid on the other worlds of Realmspace have heard the call of their brethren on Toril.</p><p> Although they lost many ships and many lives (because of the cessation of magic during the Month of</p><p> Terror) they still have formidable powers, and they send up all the spelljammers they can, and these (at the</p><p> least) maintain a watch in wildspace.</p><p> But vast numbers of illithid from the other worlds of Realmspace secretly psionically teleport to the deeps of</p><p> Toril, to join their kindred there.</p><p> This fact is NOT known to anyone but the illithid.</p><p> It boosts them to Power Level 10.</p><p></p><p> The Nations of Kara-Tur are divided.</p><p> Most announce their emnity to the elves, because the elves brought down the Month of Terror.</p><p> ALL of them announce their emnity to the Technomancy (they do not want that HERE, thank you.)</p><p> All of them announce their emnity to the humanoids.</p><p> They are terrified to hear that vast quantities of Outsiders (Celestials, Faerie, Githyanki, and Mystra knows</p><p> what else) have descended on the world.</p><p> Every nation in Kara-Tur begins massive war preparations.</p><p></p><p> The elves release a statement:</p><p></p><p> If a Witchlight is released on the surface of Toril:</p><p> They will awaken the Tarrasque.</p><p></p><p> (The elves, being an ancient race, have discovered where it is sleeping)</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> There are new developments.</p><p></p><p> The elves of Kara-Tur use their magic to transport, in mass, to the major elven bases in Faerun.</p><p> The elves of Kara-Tur make it clear THEY are standing with their brethren.</p><p> The elves of the other continents of Toril also jump in magically, massively reinforcing the Elven Alliance.</p><p> With them come a hoard of halflings, good aligned fey, and historical elf allies from those other continents.</p><p> This boosts the Elven Alliance to Power Level 6.</p><p></p><p> Kara-Tur is cold to the Technomancy, refuses to help them, and refuses to allow the Githzerai into their</p><p> lands.</p><p></p><p> Conversely ...</p><p></p><p> The elves of Zakhara REFUSE to help the elves in the north! They say that the savage elves are just that,</p><p> savages, and no problem of theirs.</p><p> Likewise, the halflings of Zakhara refuse to help.</p><p></p><p> But Zakhara, in general, eagerly allies with the Technomancy, and shares it's magic with them in return for</p><p> technological know-how.</p><p> Magical gates and teleportation ensure that massive amounts of aid come to the Technomancy from</p><p> Zakhara, and many formal treaties of alliance are signed.</p><p> The Githzerai (and even the Githyanki) are freely welcomed in Zakhara (although there is awe of the</p><p> Githyanki)</p><p> The Scro are also welcomed in Zakhara, so long as they behave themselves.</p><p> Many of the nations of Zakhara are willing to sign treaties of alliance with the Githzerai/Githyanki and the</p><p> Scro.</p><p> In return, they want spelljamming technology. And they want it now.</p><p> The aid from Zakhara boosts the Technomancy to Power Level 8.</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> Zouron, the elves send an ambassador to your host, offering alliance.</p><p> So does the Technomancy.</p><p> The Faerie do not, however.</p><p> Do you take sides?</p><p></p><p> The Githzerai find their unaided attacks against the elves fruitless.</p><p> The problem is: The Technomancy is currently retrenching and rebuilding, and avoiding (immediate) further</p><p> war with the elves (if what I've read in the posts above I've read accurately)</p><p> Although the githyanki, githzerai, and scro are pretty powerful (Up to Power Level 2), they are still no match</p><p> for the entire Elven Alliance (which is Power Level 6 now.)</p><p></p><p> The gith attacks into the Underdark are also fruitless.</p><p> The illithid are too deeply buried, too well hidden.</p><p> It will take the entire might of the Technomancy and Gith and Humanoids combined, to have any chance</p><p> against the illithid. If the Faerie Folk join in, they would have the edge. If everyone (theoretically) joined in</p><p> against the illithid, they'd have a big edge.</p><p> Even then, the war is going to rage for many years, and the destruction is going to be truly awful.</p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).]</p><p></p><p> Estlor</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 12:18 PM </p><p></p><p> Well, okay, I missed the withdraw Fine, I'll keep the Annus as a defense should any of my troops be</p><p> attacked by illithids.</p><p></p><p> And, as per the PsiHB, the Annus could wipe out the entire illithid race, Edena. Turn them to dust where they</p><p> stand. That would fall under the large-scale target that destroys the artifact (it's a Greater Artifact, not a</p><p> lesser one). The point is moot, though, so I'll drop it. But I'll confess, all I'd use it for would be to spot clean</p><p> towns, mainly because that way I wouldn't wipe the Annus out as well.</p><p></p><p> At this point I think the most logical thing for my side to do is contact the elves directly (as, well, I AM an</p><p> elf) and attempt to dissuade them from doing any major world-destructive matters. We'd all like to have a</p><p> world to RETURN to when this senseless battle is over with. Essentially I make a plea to anyone on that side</p><p> that will listen that if they admit the Month of Terror was an overreaction and commit themselves to</p><p> rebuilding the damage they do, they could easily join the side of peace and the Fair forces and force a truce.</p><p></p><p> That said, since the illithid are underground again, I'll turn to the rulers of the elementals in an attempt to</p><p> persuade them to use their powers to try and stall, stimie, and generally befuddle all the combatant forces.</p><p> Without access to spell-jamming ships, I'm pretty tapped out.</p><p></p><p> HOWEVER, since the gnomes did defect to my side, I instruct them on ways to use their technology to build</p><p> enviro-friendly devices for protection, helping to outfit the troops with better armor and shields necessary to</p><p> withstand all the forces.</p><p></p><p> Another drastic step the side takes is to use its wizards to open a temporary portal to Krynn, allowing me to</p><p> make diplomatic contact with the Kender and Tinker Gnomes there (yes, this war is just about to take a turn</p><p> for the worse). I may not have any drastic world-altering powers at my side, but I make a few offers.</p><p></p><p> 1. I'll set the Kender loose in the technomancer cities. Imagine the damage that would be done by a horde</p><p> of handlers in those techno-cities.</p><p></p><p> 2. I'll import tinker gnomes to work incognito, pretending to be gnomes that are once again loyal to the</p><p> technomancer ways. However, since all their stuff malfunctions (at best) or blows up (at worst), well, that</p><p> should cripple the technomancers.</p><p></p><p> I also direct my forces to stave the humanoid advances off as a show of good faith to the elves should they</p><p> decide to work for global peace on Toril.</p><p></p><p> My last action is to have the wizards of the gnomes, halflings, dwarves, and metallic dragons (taking other</p><p> forms) teleport around the globe, spreading propaganda among the downtrodden sick of the fighting and</p><p> senseless wars, telling them to support the Fair and to call for their leaders to put aside their weapons and</p><p> work for peace. My ultimate hope is to sway as much of the population against the war as possible.</p><p></p><p> ------------------</p><p> The Lighthouse Webmaster</p><p> "More conversions, less talk."</p><p></p><p> maddman75</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 12:24 PM </p><p></p><p> From the Anauroch wastes, a horde of Demons reappear! </p><p></p><p> During the Month of Terror, the demons trapped in Myth Drannor and kept from summoning more of thier</p><p> kind were freed. They fled into the deserts and started summoning more and more of thier kind.</p><p></p><p> Graz'lorath, a powerful Balor sorcerer, has opened a permenant gate, allowing him to conscript more troops</p><p> from the Abyss.</p><p></p><p> They approach both the Technocracy and the humanoids, offering to side with whoever will teach them to</p><p> make the weapons.</p><p></p><p> They attack the faeires on sight though, seeking to slay any celestial that they can.</p><p></p><p> Thier goals are to aquire the weaponry of the technologists. They currently have a hold in an abandoned</p><p> Netherese keep deep in the desert. They have also prepared several other holds in remote locations should</p><p> this place be beseiged (remember, we can teleport at will )</p><p></p><p> Any takers?</p><p></p><p> ------------------</p><p> "If I ever get a tumor I'm gonna name it Marla."</p><p></p><p></p><p> This topic is 16 pages</p><p> long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 </p><p></p><p> All times are Central Time (US)</p><p> This is an ARCHIVED topic. You may not reply to it!</p><p> Hop to: </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> Contact Us | D&D 3rd Edition News </p><p></p><p></p><p> Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.47b</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p> Note: This is an archived topic. It is read-only.</p><p> D&D 3rd Edition News Board </p><p> Other Archived Stuff </p><p> What would your PCs do if gnomes invented the Industrial Revolution? (Page 10) </p><p></p><p> UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! </p><p></p><p> profile | register | preferences | faq | search </p><p></p><p></p><p> This topic is 16 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 </p><p> This topic was originally posted in this forum: General RPG Discussion</p><p></p><p> Author </p><p> Topic: What would your PCs do if gnomes invented the Industrial Revolution? </p><p> Estlor</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 12:26 PM </p><p></p><p> Only problem with that, man, is if you read back, all Outsiders on Toril during the Month of Terror either died</p><p> or were sent screaming back home.</p><p></p><p> ------------------</p><p> The Lighthouse Webmaster</p><p> "More conversions, less talk."</p><p></p><p> maddman75</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 12:36 PM </p><p></p><p></p><p> quote:</p><p></p><p> Originally posted by Estlor:</p><p> Only problem with that, man, is if you read back, all Outsiders on Toril during the Month of</p><p> Terror either died or were sent screaming back home.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> Crap, I suppose you are right </p><p></p><p> Well, the I retract my move.</p><p></p><p> The fiends are still drooling to get into this war and get their hands on thier weapons. They will send magical</p><p> messages to the leaders of the technocracy, humanoids, mind flayers, and Zuron's necromancers, promising</p><p> aid in the war in exchange for the weaponry and the knowledge on how to use it. If your forces don't have</p><p> the knowledge, just capture someone who does. We can be VERY persuasive.</p><p></p><p> Alliance with demons or devils should be worth at least 2 power ratings, don't you think? And we PROMISE to</p><p> leave after the war is over. The devils will even sign a contract to that effect.</p><p></p><p> ------------------</p><p> "If I ever get a tumor I'm gonna name it Marla."</p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 12:36 PM </p><p></p><p></p><p> quote:</p><p></p><p> Originally posted by buzzard:</p><p></p><p> . . . Humanoids (cannon fodder) . . .</p><p></p><p> As for the Humanoids, I do value these allies. I also hope some of our ideas beyond</p><p> technology have taken root (the individual freedom, and capitalist notions). If not, we'll have</p><p> to be cautious. In any case I don't see how they can manage technical parity. The key points</p><p> to a technical society are the engineers and technicians, and they don't have them. Also,</p><p> even if they did enslave some of these people,(which wouldn't have made the alliance very</p><p> happy) slaves don't work very well and certainly don't innovate. </p><p></p><p> All of the details of even railroad era technology are pretty complicated. Why do you think</p><p> the Europeans dominated the world for so long? Orneriness? Nope, it was superior logistics,</p><p> technology, and organization. None of which are hallmarks of the humanoids. As long as they</p><p> cooperate with us we will provide arms and support. We will not, however, be willing to</p><p> establish factories for them, nor will be train them in all of the technology. We mean no</p><p> disrespect, but we've seen what has happened to us when we demonstrated our technology</p><p> in the past.</p><p></p><p> Buzzard</p><p></p><p></p><p> Cannon fodder indeed. What makes a human with a gun any more important than an orc with one? </p><p></p><p> As far as not having any engineers -- what makes you say *that*? Our ten or so races number in the</p><p> MILLIONS when put together -- can you say the same? Our average intelligence is no less than yours. And</p><p> finally, while the orcs and gnolls and bugbears and hobgoblins do the heavy work of slaying elves (with our</p><p> goblins playing the part of scouts/snipers/etc., as they are best suited for it), our kobolds (well, mostly</p><p> kobolds) are *quite* well organized and *quite* focused engineers. </p><p></p><p> Sorry . . . but a Wartime Economy is not one that needs vast amounts of personal freedom in order to</p><p> bloom. Over the long haul, it is necessary -- in the short, efficiency is where it's at. And there's no reason</p><p> that we're less efficient than you are. </p><p></p><p> You bring up one relevant point: slaves. Edena, actually, was the one who mentioned slaves, not I. The idea</p><p> that we could trust the weak and wispy elves to do any important labor is laughable. They're used more for</p><p> food than anything else. Our numbers are considerable enough that WE can work in the factories and in the</p><p> mines, as opposed to using slave labor. </p><p></p><p> You are correct that even given all of this, we probably do not have technological parity (even with our secret</p><p> kobold factories churning and developing . . . ). And that's fine. But you can't let the cat half out of the bag,</p><p> my good man. You turned to us to defend you when the elves were putting your cities in ruins. If you think</p><p> that you could keep all of your secrets from us, or if you think that now that we've saved you, we're</p><p> EXPENDABLE, that we're CANNON FODDER . . . well, let's not let it come to that.</p><p></p><p> You can't let the genie half out of the bottle. Maybe you could if it were as though you were the US and we</p><p> were Israel -- you have both a technological advantage and a vast numerical one. Not the case here. We</p><p> have the numbers to *speed up* development, to hide factories in the Underdark where Dragons cannot</p><p> easily get to them.</p><p></p><p> I urge you, Technomancy allies, do not quake in fear at the idea of uniting with my people. It is elven</p><p> heads we want, not yours. Human doesn't taste very good anyway. </p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p> Friend of the Technomancy</p><p> He of Less-That-Infinite-Patience</p><p></p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 12:38 PM </p><p></p><p> Well, you heard Estlor.</p><p> He has welcomed the kender and tinker gnomes into Toril.</p><p> The tinker gnomes aren't going to be of much use.</p><p> But the kender are another matter.</p><p></p><p> This is literally a case of pandora's box being open and all the contents spilled out.</p><p> The kender EAGERLY pile into every city, every town, crawl up into every machine, every device, every place</p><p> in the world that will welcome them (and every place that doesn't welcome them, too.)</p><p></p><p> There is amazement at these fearless, childlike beings from another world, which rapidly turns into other,</p><p> less good emotions.</p><p></p><p> The Dragon Overlords of Ansalon are now aware that there is this new world they could take for their own.</p><p> Please remember that THESE dragons make average dragons look like lizards in comparison.</p><p> ONE of them is a match for an entire nation.</p><p></p><p> The Red Marauder sends a message to Toril - submit to me, and live. Resist, and die.</p><p> Beryl sends a message to Evermeet - submit your island to me, or die.</p><p> The Storm Over Krynn actually comes to the World of Toril, looking for Kitiara. He does not find her, but he</p><p> does start building a massive force of draconians in some distant corner of Toril where nobody will notice.</p><p> All the other Dragon Overlords pretty much send the same message to Toril: Prepare to be conquered.</p><p> Submit, and live. Resist, and die.</p><p> The Knights of Takhisis are all too happy to come to Toril with it's wealth of good lands, away from their own</p><p> ravaged world.</p><p> The draconians see Toril as a fruit ripe to be plucked and devoured. </p><p> A lot of other major power groups take a good luck at Toril. </p><p> For instance, the minotaurs see vast oceans to conquer.</p><p></p><p> But the kender are everywhere, and - now having magic - are quite capable of defending themselves.</p><p></p><p> (evil grin)</p><p></p><p> The kender finally decide they are related to the elves, claiming that Balifor, their ancestor, was partially</p><p> elven and friends with Silvanos, the first elven lord of Silvanesti.</p><p> The kender, join the Elven Alliance!</p><p> This boosts the Elven Alliance to Power Level 7.</p><p></p><p> Kender are great at sabotage. And kender can get in ANYWHERE (there is no such thing as a lock-proof</p><p> kender.)</p><p> The technomancy suffers massive damage as the kender sabotage and derail vast amounts of their</p><p> infrastruction and machinery.</p><p> When the Technomancy attempts to exterminate the kender, they find this impossible. Kender are very</p><p> good at hiding, very good at escape, and very capable of getting out of almost any situation, no matter how</p><p> dire.</p><p></p><p> Remember, it was the Faerie Folk who let the kender in. </p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> Update. The demons and devils CAN now return to Toril.</p><p> It has now been at least 2 or 3 years since the Month of Terror.</p><p> So, if Maddman wishes to summon a hoard of evil Outsiders and inflict them on the world, he is free to do</p><p> so.</p><p> Just remember, though, be careful what you ask for, with the Fiends. You may just get it.</p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).]</p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 12:39 PM </p><p></p><p> The humanoids will be first to announce that they are willing to make a Deal with the Devil(s). </p><p></p><p> It is hardly as though the outer-fiends have greater enmity towards *us* than towards the elven menace,</p><p> after all. </p><p></p><p> We will, of course, make absolutely sure that this contract is IRONCLAD. Our best kobold sorcerers will go</p><p> over it with Wishes to make sure there are no loopholes. True Names will be exchanged. Blood will be</p><p> exchanged. </p><p></p><p> Excellent. We welcome you to the fold.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> Bran Blackbyrd</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 12:39 PM </p><p></p><p> And, indeed, if a mass of demons starts to appear the celestials on our side are bound to clue in their</p><p> comrades back home. They would pull in a sizeable host of their own to balance, or possibly overpower the</p><p> influx of evil outsiders.</p><p></p><p> ------------------</p><p> Jason "Warlocke" Lewis</p><p> ----------------------</p><p> DM: You see there are orcs camped out in the chasm ahead of you.</p><p> Me: Do they have multiple Orc-Chasms?</p><p> Warlocke's Realm</p><p></p><p> Phasmus</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 12:42 PM </p><p></p><p> Notes from the Illithid...</p><p></p><p> Our research continues, and we use what knowledge can be gained from our planar contacts to bolster our</p><p> efforts. Perhaps the astrologers of the surface note that the nights are getting longer than they should be,</p><p> or the manifestation of strange long-lasting, unpredicted eclipses...</p><p> Perhaps not.</p><p></p><p> We are treating the phaerimm well, despite their enslavement. They are being so very helpful, and we doubt</p><p> that we would find their brains appetizing anyway. We have made arrangements for the phaerimm, oh yes.</p><p> In the unlikely event that we are successfully opposed by the vile surface dwellers... we will leave and the</p><p> arcane abominations will have everything they need to take up the war against the beings of Toril on their</p><p> own. They are more than capable of retaining control of our thralls. Without our guiding influence, the</p><p> unleashed wrath of the phaerimm will make the Illithid emergence during the Month of Terror seem like a</p><p> company picnic. Of course, again, none of you have access to this information. </p><p></p><p> The phaerimm are well aware of what would have become of them had they been encountered by a race less</p><p> likely to appreciate their unique gifts. Their hatred of life unlike themselves is a match for our own... as may</p><p> be their cunning.</p><p></p><p> We like to think of them as an insurance policy... </p><p></p><p> If we loose, so do you...</p><p></p><p></p><p> Regards,</p><p></p><p> Phasmus T. Tapefiend</p><p></p><p> Don'Calamari</p><p> Speaker-To-Thralls</p><p> Public Representative of the Illithid</p><p> Horde-Master 1st Class</p><p></p><p> Enkhidu</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 12:43 PM </p><p></p><p> Oh my word...</p><p></p><p> A gentle minded philosopher holes himself up for a year in an extremely remote mountain cabin, and the</p><p> world goes to pot.</p><p></p><p> Oh well...</p><p></p><p> As a note, something everyone most likely missed when Estlor's faction came together was that combined</p><p> effect of putting Gnomish ingenuity with Dwarvish know how (and manufacturing capabilities!). Imagine all of</p><p> the Technocracy's technology in the hands of a race who makes things that really work.</p><p></p><p> Scary thought...</p><p></p><p> Additionally... one thing the Illithids CANNOT overcome is gravity, and Dwarves have been known to cause</p><p> some pretty serious cave ins... </p><p></p><p> I tell you, all of this war and all destroying Toril in it's entirety... might just be enough to get a certain</p><p> Overgod upset...</p><p></p><p> I think I'll head back to the mountains...</p><p></p><p> Enkhidu</p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 12:45 PM </p><p></p><p> Kender?! Oh, RIGHT. As if Kender are any more talented at wreaking havoc than a goblin with a</p><p> double-barreled shotgun. </p><p></p><p> Remember that we have *some* magic as well. Technology-enhanced "Alarm" spells, for one. I would say</p><p> that after the first week or two of this nonsense, a great deal of kender die to boobytrapped equipment. </p><p></p><p> They aren't freaking IMPS or GREMLINS for pete's sake! Those would be able to cause a LOT more damage.</p><p></p><p> Oh, wait. We just made an alliance with Imps and Gremlins, among others. That is, the Demons and Devils.</p><p></p><p> Hey, you guys. Get to work!</p><p> -------------</p><p></p><p> Edena -- can you give us some (very approximate) total #s as to the size of each force? I'm curious as to</p><p> humanoid numbers vs. Technomancy numbers, just to confirm that what I've been telling buzzard is true</p><p> (that especially since the war, we vastly outnumber them, so they'd better not get too big for their britches).</p><p></p><p> Also: Our diplomats have approached the evil creatures of the sea (such as Sauhaugin) and shown them</p><p> some wonderful undersea weapons (like new spearguns and such), in an effort to get them to join us. We</p><p> have also approached the Evilest of Dragons in an effort to get them to join us -- we can offer them great</p><p> power -- GREAT power -- and after all, their accursed enemies are opposed to us. If they do not take a side</p><p> in this conflict, they will find themselves at a disadvantage. </p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p></p><p> Edit: We also start building anti-air guns (damned dragons), and are working as well on Ironclads and, heh</p><p> heh, submarines. And I reiterate -- we are ENTRENCHING. Big mostly-underground fortresses, with both</p><p> magic AND technology to defend ourselves. Our humanoids will help build such fortresses for the</p><p> Technomancy cities, should they hear my plea: </p><p></p><p> People of the Technomancy -- only with FULL cooperation can we hope to stem the tide of our enemies. I</p><p> beseech you, let us work together fully and totally. </p><p></p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-10-2001).]</p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 12:47 PM </p><p></p><p> I have a piece of news that is going to sit badly with the Faerie Folk, and the Technomancy.</p><p> The dwarves have switched sides!</p><p> The dwarves declare they in alliance with the elves.</p><p> This happens instantaneously, all across Faerun.</p><p></p><p> The dwarven armies with the Faerie Folk, abandon them.</p><p></p><p> Shortly thereafter, the Gnomes declare they are allied with the dwarves, and that they will share their</p><p> technology with them.</p><p></p><p> Shortly after that, the dwarves begin an all out attack on the Technomancy.</p><p> So do the gnomes.</p><p></p><p> As if seizing the moment, the Tuigan hordes attack the Technomancy from the east. Hundreds of thousands</p><p> of savage warriors and mages come screaming in.</p><p></p><p> - - - </p><p></p><p> Technomancy spies report the elves are doing something strange. What it is they are doing, is not quite</p><p> clear, but that it involves powerful magic, is.</p><p></p><p> The dwarves, gnomes, and kender continue their attack on the Technomancy, and they are now pleading</p><p> with the Faerie Folk for help.</p><p> The dwarves point out to the Faerie Folk that the Technomancy has allied with Fiends from the Lower Planes,</p><p> and that this indicates a mentality that must be stopped at all costs.</p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).]</p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 12:56 PM </p><p></p><p> Many of the evil dragons throw their lot in with the Technomancy at this point.</p><p> The Sahuagin throw their lot in with the Technomancy at this point.</p><p> Many other evil sea creatures join the Technomancy.</p><p></p><p> I cannot give you numbers, only power levels.</p><p> They are as follows:</p><p></p><p> The Elven Alliance: 7 (up from 5)</p><p> The Technomancy: 9 (up from 7)</p><p> The Faerie Folk: 7 (down from 8)</p><p> The Illithid: 10</p><p> The Planeswalkers: 2</p><p> Zouron's Army 1</p><p></p><p> People are now referring to this war as The War to End All Wars. </p><p></p><p> Bran Blackbyrd</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 12:56 PM </p><p></p><p> A group of our wisest and most powerful Druid Elders, in conjunction with the nature spirits, with the aid of</p><p> some of the artifacts we've recovered, are meditating in an attempt to use nature itself as a spy. Their</p><p> ultimate goal is to create an immense network of intelligent (and perhaps even non-intelligent) plants, and</p><p> creatures that can communicate with our leaders, in an instant, over vast distances. The advantage this has</p><p> over regular "spying and scrying" is that nature is everywhere, and you cannot keep it out. To aid in this</p><p> endeavor we are also cultivating a new form of intelligent tree and plant life that will grow faster than</p><p> anything seen before. And only we will have a prayer of controlling it. If all goes well we will restore the</p><p> deforested areas and have an unparallelled spy network in one fell swoop.</p><p> If nothing else, we refuse to be taken be surprise!</p><p></p><p> ------------------</p><p> Jason "Warlocke" Lewis</p><p> ----------------------</p><p> DM: You see there are orcs camped out in the chasm ahead of you.</p><p> Me: Do they have multiple Orc-Chasms?</p><p> Warlocke's Realm</p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 12:58 PM </p><p></p><p> Edena -- immediate negotiations with the hordes from the east. I believe that our orcish barbarians have far</p><p> more in common with them than the wispy elfie-welfies. FAR more in common. </p><p></p><p> As it is, though, we're just going to hold our ground. I already said we're entrenched. Let them run through</p><p> the rifle fire and the cannons and the traps we've laid. Our technonology is stronger, as you pointed out long</p><p> ago, because we don't care about silly things like pollution. Much stronger. </p><p></p><p> And we would not be calling for demon and devil aid for our DEFENSE had the outsiders (many killed by the</p><p> elves) had been called for OFFENSE.</p><p></p><p> Humanoids continue to get no respect. Well, you guys are about to find out how hard it is to storm</p><p> fortresses against those with machine guns. </p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 12:59 PM </p><p></p><p> Bran, the druids of Zakhara, Kara-Tur, and the Hordelands are with you at once (there aren't any druids left</p><p> in Faerun ...)</p><p> The druids on other continents and in the seas will help.</p><p></p><p> The Faerie Folk almost immediately realize what you are doing, and offer to ally with you.</p><p></p><p> Bran, with the druidical power, you immediately have a Power Ranking of 2, and it is growing fast.</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> The Faerie Folk are able to confirm what the elves are doing.</p><p> They are ... atoning.</p><p> They are attempting to rebuild ruined monuments, regrow forests, and otherwise give back to the world.</p><p> They are trying to make up for the spell they cast, trying to heal and aid the Weave in recovery.</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> The Tuigan are not interested in parley. The Technomancy diplomats are returned to the Technomancy</p><p> minus their heads.</p><p> The Tuigan army is interested in slaughter.</p><p> IMMEDIATE and unconditional surrender MIGHT be met with mercy (that is, you might be allowed to live.)</p><p> I stress the might. The Tuigan say that the Technomancy must have offended the Gods, for they happen to</p><p> be the victims of this massive onslaught. (If that logic sounds strange, it was what Genghis Khan said.)</p><p></p><p> The Tuigan have a power level of 3.</p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).]</p><p></p><p> maddman75</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 01:01 PM </p><p></p><p> The fiends sign a contract with Forresters foes to leave the Realms once</p><p></p><p> 1)The technological weaponry and the knowledge of how to make them is in thier hands. </p><p> 2)The war is over.</p><p></p><p> I'm assuming (since a contract is involved) that you are signing with the devils.</p><p></p><p> They indeed start working at the factories, both defending them and learning the secrest of making them.</p><p></p><p> What do you know? Kender tastes just like chicken?</p><p></p><p> They also send five Pit Fiends to serve as battlefield generals for the humanoids, as well as several</p><p> squadrons of Abishai shock troops.</p><p></p><p> The demons are not happy about this - they don't want the devils to get the weapons. They send magical</p><p> messages to the leaders of ALL factions - we must have the weapons, we will win your war for you!</p><p></p><p> ------------------</p><p> "If I ever get a tumor I'm gonna name it Marla."</p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 01:05 PM </p><p></p><p> Zouron! I invite you and your legions of undead to our side. Our shamans have always had far more in</p><p> common with you than the faerae folk. Just look at all of those "ae"'s! Give us undead birds to carry bombs</p><p> to drop upon our approaching enemies, undead -- well, just lots of undead. They'll be a lot more dead to</p><p> raise after the war!</p><p></p><p> Planeswalkers! You did initially say that you joined the Technomancy. We want PEACE, now that the elves</p><p> have been punished for THEIR month of TERROR! And our spies say that they plan on perhaps raising a</p><p> Tarrasque! THEY continue this war -- THEY started this war! Not us! We are protecting ourselves, just as we</p><p> always have. Do not let our humanoid skin make you think that we do not deserve aid in this time of</p><p> troubles. Please, join our side and help us *defend* ourselves against the elven horde. </p><p></p><p> Faerie Folk! You asked us for peace -- we now want PEACE! You cannot deny that the elves started this war,</p><p> and that by arrogantly ripping Magic from the universe for a month, they deserved punishment! We are</p><p> happy with what we have conquered, and now seek an end to hostilities. Please, if you will not help us, at</p><p> least do not help our enemies. They are the agressors here. </p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 01:10 PM </p><p></p><p> I am sorry to say this, but if the Technomancy signs with the devils, the demons join the elves at once.</p><p> Demons will not work with devils! They are enemies!!!</p><p></p><p> This mass inrushing of the Outsiders boosts the Technomancy to Power Level 9.</p><p> I am assuming the elves refuse to treat with the demons.</p><p> So, the demons go on an independent rampage against everyone, but especially the Technomancy.</p><p></p><p> The Technomancy is now under attack by the demons, the dwarves, the gnomes, the kender, and the</p><p> Tuigan Hordes.</p><p> However, it is reasonable to assume the Technomancy is holding it's own. It is very powerful, and the devils</p><p> make it more powerful, and the Githyanki/Githzerai/Scro make it more powerful, and the help from Zakhara</p><p> is pouring in.</p><p></p><p> There is an unconfirmed rumor that forces from the World of Oerth have entered the war. </p><p> These rumors cannot be confirmed.</p><p></p><p> Since the Dragon Overlords of Krynn have not been answered, they decide that when the time is ripe to</p><p> attack Toril, they will teach it a lesson it will never forget.</p><p></p><p> ((Need to go AFK for a while. Be back later to assess all new posts (chuckle) ))</p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).]</p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 01:13 PM </p><p></p><p> Maddman -- one other element in the contract. We call the shots -- our numbers are greater and we've</p><p> been in the war longer. And I couldn't help but notice that in your very short description of the contract, you</p><p> left open the possibility of TURNING AGAINST US, i.e., you don't leave until "The War Is Over" -- you could</p><p> attack us and it would mean the war continued.</p><p></p><p> We (that is, you and I, out-of-character) don't have to get down into the nitty gritty. Here's my guidelines:</p><p></p><p> 1) You get the armaments, if not all of the technology. (Work on that yourself.)</p><p> 2) You help US, the HUMANOIDS. And ONLY US. And that's standard "help" . . not "help you die" or any such</p><p> killer-DM nonsense.</p><p> 3) We have the most input in deciding when to attack/defend, or whatnot. So in other words, if we need a</p><p> (temporary) peace, you'll go along with it for awhile. A temporary peace is not an End to the War, of course.</p><p></p><p> Sound reasonable?</p><p></p><p> Forrester the Reasonable</p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-10-2001).]</p><p></p><p> The Burned Man</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 01:14 PM </p><p></p><p> Dregoth the Undead ruler of New Giustenal uses the Planar Gate to enter Toril. </p><p></p><p> He offers his services to the technomancy, He offers psionic knowledge and defiler magic as well as the</p><p> services of Athasian warriors.... </p><p></p><p> Estlor</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 01:21 PM </p><p></p><p> Well, seeing that I am in some way guilty of letting the dragon overlords in, I order the Fairies that this war</p><p> has become a place of no peace. It is now a matter of choosing which side you would rather have control a</p><p> reshaped Toril. Humanoids and corrupt humans or elves, gnomes, dwarves, and the like.</p><p></p><p> I call a meeting between myself, Oberon, Titania, the sea people's leaders, the strongest dragons, and the</p><p> Celestials. We agree we would rather see the elves, seeking atonement, win this war, than the humanoids.</p><p> As such, I send a message to the leaders of the elven Alliance stating the Fair will join them if they officially</p><p> refuse the help of the demons (as celestials and demons don't work well together).</p><p></p><p> Having done so, I go forth to answer to the Dragon Lords, hoping I can dissuade them from destroying Toril</p><p> and convince them that there is nothing they seek here. I will attempt to show them the violence and pain</p><p> suffered from this war and how Toril is doomed, making Toril seem as debased a place as possible.</p><p></p><p> I'll even go as far as to sacrific the PC Estlor's life if it means stopping the Dragon Lords from invading. It's</p><p> the least I can do for unleashing them on an unsuspecting world.</p><p></p><p> ------------------</p><p> The Lighthouse Webmaster</p><p> "More conversions, less talk."</p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 01:23 PM </p><p></p><p> Edena -- our power level was *already* 9, after the evil sea creatures and evil dragons joined us.</p><p></p><p> So are we boosted up to 11 now? Booyah!</p><p></p><p> Two notes:</p><p></p><p> 1) Demons don't want to work with devils, but they'll work with elves? And Kender? Or at least offer their</p><p> services?! </p><p></p><p> 2) Devils with machine guns > than demons without. We mock them. Behind their backs.</p><p></p><p> 3) I indeed send a representative to the Draconians. Clearly, they would be more interested in allying with</p><p> humanoids than with stinky elves. We'd like to negotiate a temporary peace/alliance, to crush the evil elven</p><p> onslaught. After all, see our nifty little guns?</p><p></p><p> Let us know when the pathetic barbarian hordes waving their little pointy sticks have been crushed by our</p><p> millions of well-armed and entrenched humanoids. Power level "3" my pasty humanoid butt. We outnumber</p><p> them five-fold, perhaps ten-fold, and their spears are no match for our magic-enhanced gunnery. And</p><p> they're stupid enough to storm US?</p><p></p><p> Let me know what they taste like. </p><p></p><p> Phasmus</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 01:28 PM </p><p></p><p> Fools...</p><p> Do you realize what you have done? By summoning the blood war to Toril you have doomed us all... There</p><p> will be nothing left for us to dominate, save a lifeless wasteland.</p><p></p><p> In the underdark, while their opposition is otherwise occupied, the Illithid make a large, unexpected push,</p><p> expanding and fortifying their holdings as much and as safely as possible. They avoid areas claimed by</p><p> those untainted by the lower planes. They do not approach the surface in their expansion, and they seal</p><p> themselves in once again when they finish.</p><p></p><p> The efforts to plunge the world of Toril into eternal night are redoubled, now more in hopes of stopping the</p><p> conflict before it is too late than in securing instant mastery of the world.</p><p></p><p> A message written in an unnatural-looking hand appears in the living quarters of the head members of all</p><p> factions not allied with the outsiders. It reads the same for each. </p><p></p><p> "Our goals diverge on many things... but we suspect you will agree that having Toril overrun by the forces of</p><p> the lower planes benefits no one. We are willing to offer you our assistance solely where the elimination of</p><p> those vile creatures and their associates is concerned. We will act with hostility neither toward you, nor toward</p><p> your other enemies. Think about it... loudly. If you are interested in negotiating on these terms, we will</p><p> know. A representative will contact you shortly after a decision is reached between the other leaders of your</p><p> forces.</p><p></p><p> Regards,</p><p></p><p> The Illithid"</p><p></p><p> Estlor</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 01:28 PM </p><p></p><p> Forrester, don't forget the elves have both the gnomes and the dwarves on their side now. That means</p><p> they'll probably win an arms race if it's technology you want to talk about </p><p></p><p> ------------------</p><p> The Lighthouse Webmaster</p><p> "More conversions, less talk."</p><p></p><p> [This message has been edited by Estlor (edited 04-10-2001).]</p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 01:35 PM </p><p></p><p></p><p> quote:</p><p></p><p> Originally posted by Estlor:</p><p> Well, seeing that I am in some way guilty of letting the dragon overlords in, I order the</p><p> Fairies that this war has become a place of no peace. It is now a matter of choosing which</p><p> side you would rather have control a reshaped Toril. Humanoids and corrupt humans or elves,</p><p> gnomes, dwarves, and the like.</p><p></p><p> I call a meeting between myself, Oberon, Titania, the sea people's leaders, the strongest</p><p> dragons, and the Celestials. We agree we would rather see the elves, seeking atonement,</p><p> win this war, than the humanoids. As such, I send a message to the leaders of the elven</p><p> Alliance stating the Fair will join them if they officially refuse the help of the demons (as</p><p> celestials and demons don't work well together).</p><p></p><p> Having done so, I go forth to answer to the Dragon Lords, hoping I can dissuade them from</p><p> destroying Toril and convince them that there is nothing they seek here. I will attempt to</p><p> show them the violence and pain suffered from this war and how Toril is doomed, making</p><p> Toril seem as debased a place as possible.</p><p></p><p> I'll even go as far as to sacrific the PC Estlor's life if it means stopping the Dragon Lords from</p><p> invading. It's the least I can do for unleashing them on an unsuspecting world.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> Hah! Typical Weak-Folk talk. I offer the DragonLords Evermeet should they help us wipe the elves off the</p><p> face of the planet. And other elven lands besides. The weak Fae talk of peace -- supposedly -- while waging</p><p> war on the Technomancy. They atone?! ATONE? By killing humanoids, whose only sin was to DEFEND against</p><p> an UNWARRANTED ATTACK?! </p><p></p><p> Typical elf-logic. As usual. </p><p></p><p> The elves offer the Dragonlords nothing. I offer them seas rich with elven blood. </p><p></p><p> Meanwhile, our Gith friends are working on a way to do to Psionics what the foolish elves did to Magic -- but</p><p> instead of doing it for a month, only for a day, or an hour, or a minute. A winking on and off of psionic</p><p> energy, so to speak. High Psionics if you will. Such a power would likely not do much to harm the illithids . . .</p><p> but it would likely free many of the Phaerimm. Perhaps temporarily, perhaps not. </p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p> Member </p><p> posted 04-10-2001 01:44 PM </p><p></p><p> Estlor: Note Edena's comments below. Gnomish technology -- fah! As Edena notes below, the magic/techno</p><p> edge we have kicks butt. </p><p></p><p> And how many humanoids are there compared to gnomes and dwarves? We outnumber you guys, sorry . . .</p><p> and we've been going for five years straight. The dwarves just got into this -- and the gnomes had to desert</p><p> their factories. </p><p></p><p> You'll be able to catch up eventually, perhaps (or at least stay roughly the same distance behind), but we</p><p> have the edge now. </p><p></p><p> Cannot the gnomes come to an understanding with us? It is the elves that started this whole mess -- and</p><p> now they ally with them?!</p><p></p><p> quote:</p><p></p><p> Originally posted by Edena_of_Neith:</p><p> It should be becoming obvious to all sides that:</p><p></p><p> --- The gnomes aren't doing that much damage with their non-magical weapons, powerful</p><p> though they are.</p><p> --- The industrialized nations aren't doing that much damage with their non-magical</p><p> weapons, powerful though they are.</p><p> --- The elves and druids, and their allies, aren't doing that much damage with their</p><p> non-magical weapons, powerful though they are.</p><p></p><p> It is the mages who are doing the worst damage.</p><p></p><p> --- They are the ones combining magic and technology to make technomagic weapons.</p><p> --- They are the ones who are (on the Technomancy side) shouting the glories of technology,</p><p> then secretly using it to boost their magical powers.</p><p> --- They are the ones who are summoning the Outsiders.</p><p> --- They are the ones who got the dragons involved in the war, and continue to keep them</p><p> involved.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> This topic is 16 pages</p><p> long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 </p><p></p><p> All times are Central Time (US)</p><p> This is an ARCHIVED topic. 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[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 1302670, member: 2020"] [b](Post 7) Thread One of the 1st IR[/b] Blood Jester Member posted 04-10-2001 04:46 AM World Domination? Somewhat of a paraphrase. *sigh* Oh well... [OOC - Folks, work is a harsh mistress, I will be out of action until tonight. Try not to run away with the world.] Edena, the Elven forces consolidate. Those areas too savaged to be defensible are abandoned, all peoples (not just Elves) are offered evacuation via Spelljammer, or Teleport w/o Error. The military's only duty during these evacuations will be to protect the evacuees. Those areas that, by nature of the terrain/architecture are strategically sound are reinforced (physically and magically, as well as with troops). All non-essential Elven civilians are withdrawn to Evermeet. A dedicated campaign of rebuilding lost forces is begun. Since the negotiations for 'trials' has broken down, we still have a few members of our High Mage Council left. They begin to train replacements, and to research new magic. (Mystra may be upset with us, but Azuth is the god of Magical Knowledge, our resarch and development of new spells, even the Big One, should sit well with him.) To counter the strenuous efforts to build our forces, large celebrations are thrown weekly, courtship is made especially...easy. (Elves have always been casual about breeding, we now try a little harder. ) If the Dwarves have truly decided to turn their backs on their oldest allies (even if there has been disagreement, when all is said and done the Elves and Dwarves have always stood together), and are willing to let another elder race fall to humans and orcs/goblinoids...That is their choice, their honor is washed away with the blood of our people. They stood back from the beginning, little else is expected of them. The Elves also turn (in secret) to an ignored race in the realms to request an alliance. A race that, historically, only the elves treated with respect, and guardianship. A race that actually enjoyed a great victory as a result of the Elven actions. . . . Halflings. [More to come, but I really do lack time due to work.] Blood Jester zouron Member posted 04-10-2001 05:25 AM Now my assult to eliminate the powerful spellcasters seem to have failed, now the time to gain a stronghold of power for the magic forces, I call all those who wishes to preserver magic and strengthing themselves and others under my banner, technomancy, elves fairie folks? now it is time to unleash the hordes of undead I have gathered, educate more necromancers to fill out the ranks of undead (remember there are animate spells in necromancers handbook below level 5), the goal is to secure a whole nation for our research no more no less, this include the underdark directly below, I will even try ally myself with the drows for them to keep peace in the underdark. I will attempt to recruit more spell casters from all sides that might wish to do so, offering spells that will gain the edge for them as trade item. Perhaps you say undead are not a force to take as serious? remember I am my allies can control even the most powerful undead to do our bidding and my strong hold on the face and the demiplane created for this is specifically devoted to amges and and commoners, yes we do have fields magically enhanced to provide more resources, I have been trading resources for a some time. Now let us use it, using the best techniques availbel, combining magic technomancy and the old ways of swords and magic weapons, the powers of the rest less undead. we do not seek to win the war just secure our own. Dragons come join us and we will give spoils of gold and magic for your hordes, destroy lour enemies with us and we will pay taxes to you. Humanoids, we never liked you, but shamns and witchdocors come join our ranks we have the power, devote yourself to the ways of power and magic and grasp the land for yourself, take revenge over the hyordes tha banished you to the udnerdark so long ago. the time for drawing the line in the sand is now, no longer will the I nor my allies have to live in uncertainty of a silly war, having our fields libraries, caves and dwellings destroy, the dead will walk and take land for us. beware world take your silly war elsewhere Signed zouron buzzard Member posted 04-10-2001 08:16 AM Geez, I just stop reading the net for a few hours and I'm 3 pages behind. What's a carrion eater to do? OK as one of the Techies, I'll have to add my opinion as to direction. First off, it looks to me like the Elves have paid enough for now. Their presence and influence outside of Evermeet is essentially gone. They have paid pretty dearly for the damage they have done. We can allow a truce for the moment in the interest of deflecting the Faeries wrath (and give us time to make a fleet of Ironclads to really teach those pointy eared bozos a lesson). Once a fleet is built, we can decide if we wish to wipe them out. Elvish war galleys will be a joke in the face of a broadside volley of cannon. The Illithid scare me, and I beseech all right thinking races to at least investigate where they went. I can't imagine that they're up to any good given the resources they acquired. An expedition must be sent down to find out what we can. I say we ask for a truce with the Faerie, and start an expeditionary force of humans (combat engineers, artillery, and snipers), Humanoids (cannon fodder), dwarves (sappers, and other combat engineers), Githyanki (psionic support), and some small fairies for scouting. We have to find out what the Illithids are up to. They would not have given up their foothold on the surface for no reason. Militarily, I'd be concentrating on finding some of the best thieves and rangers in the land and training them to be Sharpshooters. I don't imagine even Illithids will be too perky with a 50 cal piece of lead popping them in the head, and the ranges are much greater than those of psionics. A well hidden group of snipers at 500 yards can wreak some serious havok. For close quarters work people are issues 8 and 10 gague shotguns (double barrel breechloaders) As for the Humanoids, I do value these allies. I also hope some of our ideas beyond technology have taken root (the individual freedom, and capitalist notions). If not, we'll have to be cautious. In any case I don't see how they can manage technical parity. The key points to a technical society are the engineers and technicians, and they don't have them. Also, even if they did enslave some of these people,(which wouldn't have made the alliance very happy) slaves don't work very well and certainly don't innovate. All of the details of even railroad era technology are pretty complicated. Why do you think the Europeans dominated the world for so long? Orneriness? Nope, it was superior logistics, technology, and organization. None of which are hallmarks of the humanoids. As long as they cooperate with us we will provide arms and support. We will not, however, be willing to establish factories for them, nor will be train them in all of the technology. We mean no disrespect, but we've seen what has happened to us when we demonstrated our technology in the past. Buzzard Gruffmug Member posted 04-10-2001 09:04 AM Already being done buzzard of the technocracy. However, We ask for improved rifles for our intelligence as we need better weapons to make our raid more effective. We the Gith and scro alliance begin a ruthless assault on elven communities. Revenge for our defeat in the Unhuman War. We unleash our most terrible weapon ,astral dragons. The skys are filled with spelljammers. Landing parties of spellcasting Scro land and reinforce the humanoids and hope to receive better Technology. We ask no quarter and give none. We contact the "shou-long" kara-tur ministry. The Gith begin raids into the underdark. Upon seeing the danger, all gith every where rally for fear of an new illithiad empire. Gith are recalled from gasp "darksun" if possible. We will begin summoning outsiders to fight for us. We try and free or kill the phaerimm and the mages during raids to weaken the illithiad position. Astral hopping gith attempt to steal magic items from illithiads. We know what it is like to be under the yoke of the illithiad. Anything would be better than that. We also contact both the planeswalkers through Darwinofmind and the mages in seclusion through Zouron to negotiate an nonaggression pack and possible alliance against the illithiad. Off to class Nok "who is the master" "Shunuff" [This message has been edited by Gruffmug (edited 04-10-2001).] DarwinofMind Member posted 04-10-2001 09:24 AM (Sorry, can't summon from DarkSun, Nothing enters or leaves Athis, it's sealed from the multiverse. Otherwise I would have brought back some really good psionics.) We are willing to ally ourselves with the gith for the destruction of the Mind-Flayers, if there can be an agreement that the Elves keep Evermeet, It's all they seem to have left, and we look down on there complete extermination. They will be monitored much like Germany after WW2, After that big blow they are not to be trusted anymore. Forrester. I read above that you have dug in, entrenched and moved to a defensive stance on your own. This is exactly what the Planewalkers wished from you all along. We are quite willing to let you keep all lands that you concured from the elves and we will work with the Technomancy to help you support yourselves. Estlor Member posted 04-10-2001 09:39 AM Ah, during my absence I was busy My orders to the Fair Folk and their allies was to continue to push against the illithids and, in the meantime, take no sides. Any that causes a serious threat to another faces combined guerilla tactics of the races. And then we bring the Celestials in on our side, beseeching the gods of goodness and order to grant us strength to overcome. And, with the combined aid of the sages of the fairies, celestials, dragons, undersea folk, dwarves, halflings, and the remaning druids that are not totally killed, I uncover the weapon that illithids truly fear. The Annus. This artifact (found in the PsiHB) is capable of destroying specific psionic targets (in addition to disrupting psionics around the holder of the artifact). I can direct it to target the entire illithid race. This will, of course, destroy the artifact, but it will remove the illithid. Thus, I teleport them a message. It reads: Leaders of the Illithid, hear my words. I, Estlor, leader of the Fair, do command you to return to the Underdark immediately, surrendering all land and people you have captured along the way. Failure to do so will force me to obliterate your entire race instantly. In the interest of balance I do not wish to do this, but refusal to heed my order will leave me no choice. Mark that I do have the Annus, an artifact of power. I will not hesitate to use it. You have been warned. Should any illithid or illithid allies make an attempt at me directly, even if I'm not on the board to post as a responce, I will immediately use the Annus to vaporize the entire illithid race (as I keep it with me at all times). In the meantime, I see to it that the leaders of all the sides are made aware that the Fair have the power to obliterate an entire faction in the span of a thought, once again requesting a peaceful meeting between diplomats to come to some middle terms and end this senseless war. To further back myself up, I attempt to send envoys to the elemental planes to gain the backing of the elementals should any side directly assault my own. ------------------ The Lighthouse Webmaster "More conversions, less talk." [This message has been edited by Estlor (edited 04-10-2001).] DarwinofMind Member posted 04-10-2001 10:05 AM Well, I am going to be leaving again. So don't anyone destroy all of Fearun while I'm gone. Gruffmug Member posted 04-10-2001 10:31 AM We do have access to Darksun. We control access to its crystal sphere ala spelljammer and repeated in dragon crown or blackspine adventures I think. We always have. We accept your condition as long as the elves never again enter wildspace.We destroy all elven communities except Evermeet. We secretly begin organization of the humanoid armies with Scro tactics. We also begin building a true infrastructure for the humanoids with kobold assistance. We enter into secret negotiations with the Thri-keen for military support. The gith continue raiding but now they have rifles, demons, cannons and elementals supporting them. We ask the fair to eliminate the illithiad once and for all. We may even secretly force thier hand by mindcontroling several illithiad and making them attack the leader of the Fair Races. If the Fair Folk fail in their task we secretly prepare the Witchlight Marauders for deployment. We don't live in the realms(grins) There goes the neiborhood. We also try to woo control of the gem dragons. I repeat we will destroy the illithiad threat. Nok "who is the master" "ShoNuff" Phasmus Member posted 04-10-2001 10:44 AM Estlor, we withdrew from the surface quite some time ago. The Illithid military threat has appearantly vanished from the face of Toril. Aside from some isolated spies and contacts, no one has seen or heard an Illithid on the surface since a few weeks after the Month of Terror. The passages behind us were deliberately blasted closed. I posted more detailed descriptions of where we are, what we have and what we're doing yesterday, suffice to say we have been keeping ourselves busy during the remainder of this conflict. Ideally, by now, our strongholds are warded against any such unpleasant outside influence, although I can not be sure on that point. Anyone who attempts to confront us on our home turf will be doing so on our terms... Exactly on our own terms... Additionally: The native leaders of the Githyanki forces are surprised to find an untrapped anonymous package delivered to their camp. It contains several scrying-focuses and a hastily written note that reads simply "It wasn't us." Some simple scrying procedures on the material provided reveal true perpetrator of the lich-queen's murder [Mr. Gruffmug]. The validity of the information is easily verified. Presumably, the Githyanki are not amused. Regards, Phasmus & Co. "When in doubt, use duct tape." Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-10-2001 10:55 AM That is correct. The illithid have completely vanished from the surface of Faerun! They've vanished even from the Underdark, going down so deep even the deep dwarves have lost track of them! However, they have (as noted above) taken the captured phaerimm with them, along with captured mages, and a lot of other beings. The elves and their allied nations are in full scale retreat. Behind a front line of defenders, and behind the cover of the Elven Imperial Navy, which protects the skies, the following happens: All the civilian population of the countries allied with the elves are evacuated to either Evermeet, Waterdeep, Undermountain or to deeply hidden strategic places in the northwest part of Faerun, west of Anauroch and north of the Inner Sea (where the Elven Alliance still dominates) Of the fighting population that remains: Aglarond consolidates it's remaining power in it's woodlands. Backing by the awesome power of the Simbul, they refuse to budge. The fighters of the Akanal retreat into the Chondalwood, making common cause with the elves there. Candlekeep, along with all of it's remaining treasures, artifacts, and knowledge, is evacuated (and it's artifacts go to Evermeet) Chondath evacuates also into the Chondalwood, and makes common cause with the Akanal who fled there. The elves of Cormanthyr flee to Evermeet. The war wizards of Cormyr evacuate to Waterdeep, which is rebuilt as a massive fortress city. Undermountain is occupied, and Halaster either kicked out or forced to join up. Undermountain is made into a vast refuge/fortress for the Elven Alliance. The people of the Dalelands flee to Shadowdale, which is defended by Elminster, Storm, and Sylune. There, they build Shadowdale up until it is bristling with defenses pointed in every direction. Evermeet is massively fortified, both above and below ground. A massive defense is on standby 24 hours a day, in the sky over Evermeet, and another in the Underdark, below Evermeet, and another in the ocean, around Evermeet, and another in the Ethereal and Astral Plane, where they touch Evermeet. All the people of the Great Dale that can flee, do flee, west. To Shadowdale. Or south, to Aglarond. Those that remain, hide. The elves of the High Forest flee to Evermeet, but they leave terrible traps throughout the forest for enemies. Their friends in the forest, who stay, keep watch. Luruar concentrates it's surviving strength around Silverymoon, Mithral Hall, and Citadel Adbar (this is a case where the dwarves are fighting for the Elven Alliance) Lantan fortifies, and the Elven Imperial Navy sends ships to protect this island. Lapaliiya fortifies. Luiren, the halfling nations, has stood with the elves from the beginning, and isn't budging now. They already occupy part of Dambrath, and now they fortify to the teeth. The Moonshaes are a strategic set of islands, and the Elven Alliance fortifies them. Their people take cover in the mountains of those islands. Neverwinter, the other major elven settlement, is evacuated. Death traps of awesome power are left for any who'd trespass into that region. The Witches of Rashemen and their male barbarian allies aren't going anywhere, but they entrench into the woods and underground. Sespech is too far east to be evacuated, nor do they fully comprehend the threat. They ready themselves for another dragon attack, and prepare to take as many of the enemy with them as possible. Unther fortifies itself to the utmost degree, most of it's population heading into underground fortresses or it's great, massively fortified cities. Westgate is evacuated. It's people go to the haven of Waterdeep. Across Faerun, elves flee from the various forests (such as the Forest of Tethyr) and small woodlands. NOTE - The Chosen of Mystra make it clear that if Waterdeep, Undermountain, Shadowdale, Silverymoon, or Aglarond (or ANY civilian refuge) are attacked again, they WILL fight. (If that happens, the Elven Alliance goes up to Power Level 6, from Power Level 5) There is a new development. The peoples of the Hordelands (think of the scythians and Mongols, with all the attitude but with powerful magic to boot) have united. They are gathering in great force in strategic places just east of Faerun, and it appears they are coming in. (Before you underestimate them, remember the Mongol invasion wiped out everything from China to Hungary to Persia, and they assailed clear to Constantinople, Egypt, India, and Japan.) Estlor, the Annus will NOT destroy the illithid. For the very good reason that the illithid, when they sacked Myth Drannor, Candlekeep, and Silverymoon, found artifacts of their own that would counter such an attack. Likewise, the illithid (and all other powers, for that matter) lack a single superweapon that will totally destroy the other side. EXCEPTION: The elves have Wrath of the Just. Fortunately, they haven't thrown it yet. (It would destroy them as well as their enemies.) [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).] Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-10-2001 11:40 AM Zouron is able to muster a massive host of the Undead, along with the ruthless among the humanoids. He gets a big boost when a large force of the Unseelie (evil Faerie) come to join him. His force should now be considered Power Level One. There is now all out war in Realmspace, between the Elven Imperial Navy and the incoming Scro and Githzerai Spelljamming Fleets. It goes without saying that Selune and Luna are now involved in the war (the moons of Toril.) The inhabitants of those moons take the side of the elves!! (they do not like the scro) The illithid on the other worlds of Realmspace have heard the call of their brethren on Toril. Although they lost many ships and many lives (because of the cessation of magic during the Month of Terror) they still have formidable powers, and they send up all the spelljammers they can, and these (at the least) maintain a watch in wildspace. But vast numbers of illithid from the other worlds of Realmspace secretly psionically teleport to the deeps of Toril, to join their kindred there. This fact is NOT known to anyone but the illithid. It boosts them to Power Level 10. The Nations of Kara-Tur are divided. Most announce their emnity to the elves, because the elves brought down the Month of Terror. ALL of them announce their emnity to the Technomancy (they do not want that HERE, thank you.) All of them announce their emnity to the humanoids. They are terrified to hear that vast quantities of Outsiders (Celestials, Faerie, Githyanki, and Mystra knows what else) have descended on the world. Every nation in Kara-Tur begins massive war preparations. The elves release a statement: If a Witchlight is released on the surface of Toril: They will awaken the Tarrasque. (The elves, being an ancient race, have discovered where it is sleeping) - - - There are new developments. The elves of Kara-Tur use their magic to transport, in mass, to the major elven bases in Faerun. The elves of Kara-Tur make it clear THEY are standing with their brethren. The elves of the other continents of Toril also jump in magically, massively reinforcing the Elven Alliance. With them come a hoard of halflings, good aligned fey, and historical elf allies from those other continents. This boosts the Elven Alliance to Power Level 6. Kara-Tur is cold to the Technomancy, refuses to help them, and refuses to allow the Githzerai into their lands. Conversely ... The elves of Zakhara REFUSE to help the elves in the north! They say that the savage elves are just that, savages, and no problem of theirs. Likewise, the halflings of Zakhara refuse to help. But Zakhara, in general, eagerly allies with the Technomancy, and shares it's magic with them in return for technological know-how. Magical gates and teleportation ensure that massive amounts of aid come to the Technomancy from Zakhara, and many formal treaties of alliance are signed. The Githzerai (and even the Githyanki) are freely welcomed in Zakhara (although there is awe of the Githyanki) The Scro are also welcomed in Zakhara, so long as they behave themselves. Many of the nations of Zakhara are willing to sign treaties of alliance with the Githzerai/Githyanki and the Scro. In return, they want spelljamming technology. And they want it now. The aid from Zakhara boosts the Technomancy to Power Level 8. - - - Zouron, the elves send an ambassador to your host, offering alliance. So does the Technomancy. The Faerie do not, however. Do you take sides? The Githzerai find their unaided attacks against the elves fruitless. The problem is: The Technomancy is currently retrenching and rebuilding, and avoiding (immediate) further war with the elves (if what I've read in the posts above I've read accurately) Although the githyanki, githzerai, and scro are pretty powerful (Up to Power Level 2), they are still no match for the entire Elven Alliance (which is Power Level 6 now.) The gith attacks into the Underdark are also fruitless. The illithid are too deeply buried, too well hidden. It will take the entire might of the Technomancy and Gith and Humanoids combined, to have any chance against the illithid. If the Faerie Folk join in, they would have the edge. If everyone (theoretically) joined in against the illithid, they'd have a big edge. Even then, the war is going to rage for many years, and the destruction is going to be truly awful. [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).] Estlor Member posted 04-10-2001 12:18 PM Well, okay, I missed the withdraw Fine, I'll keep the Annus as a defense should any of my troops be attacked by illithids. And, as per the PsiHB, the Annus could wipe out the entire illithid race, Edena. Turn them to dust where they stand. That would fall under the large-scale target that destroys the artifact (it's a Greater Artifact, not a lesser one). The point is moot, though, so I'll drop it. But I'll confess, all I'd use it for would be to spot clean towns, mainly because that way I wouldn't wipe the Annus out as well. At this point I think the most logical thing for my side to do is contact the elves directly (as, well, I AM an elf) and attempt to dissuade them from doing any major world-destructive matters. We'd all like to have a world to RETURN to when this senseless battle is over with. Essentially I make a plea to anyone on that side that will listen that if they admit the Month of Terror was an overreaction and commit themselves to rebuilding the damage they do, they could easily join the side of peace and the Fair forces and force a truce. That said, since the illithid are underground again, I'll turn to the rulers of the elementals in an attempt to persuade them to use their powers to try and stall, stimie, and generally befuddle all the combatant forces. Without access to spell-jamming ships, I'm pretty tapped out. HOWEVER, since the gnomes did defect to my side, I instruct them on ways to use their technology to build enviro-friendly devices for protection, helping to outfit the troops with better armor and shields necessary to withstand all the forces. Another drastic step the side takes is to use its wizards to open a temporary portal to Krynn, allowing me to make diplomatic contact with the Kender and Tinker Gnomes there (yes, this war is just about to take a turn for the worse). I may not have any drastic world-altering powers at my side, but I make a few offers. 1. I'll set the Kender loose in the technomancer cities. Imagine the damage that would be done by a horde of handlers in those techno-cities. 2. I'll import tinker gnomes to work incognito, pretending to be gnomes that are once again loyal to the technomancer ways. However, since all their stuff malfunctions (at best) or blows up (at worst), well, that should cripple the technomancers. I also direct my forces to stave the humanoid advances off as a show of good faith to the elves should they decide to work for global peace on Toril. My last action is to have the wizards of the gnomes, halflings, dwarves, and metallic dragons (taking other forms) teleport around the globe, spreading propaganda among the downtrodden sick of the fighting and senseless wars, telling them to support the Fair and to call for their leaders to put aside their weapons and work for peace. My ultimate hope is to sway as much of the population against the war as possible. ------------------ The Lighthouse Webmaster "More conversions, less talk." maddman75 Member posted 04-10-2001 12:24 PM From the Anauroch wastes, a horde of Demons reappear! During the Month of Terror, the demons trapped in Myth Drannor and kept from summoning more of thier kind were freed. They fled into the deserts and started summoning more and more of thier kind. Graz'lorath, a powerful Balor sorcerer, has opened a permenant gate, allowing him to conscript more troops from the Abyss. They approach both the Technocracy and the humanoids, offering to side with whoever will teach them to make the weapons. They attack the faeires on sight though, seeking to slay any celestial that they can. Thier goals are to aquire the weaponry of the technologists. They currently have a hold in an abandoned Netherese keep deep in the desert. They have also prepared several other holds in remote locations should this place be beseiged (remember, we can teleport at will ) Any takers? ------------------ "If I ever get a tumor I'm gonna name it Marla." This topic is 16 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 All times are Central Time (US) This is an ARCHIVED topic. You may not reply to it! Hop to: Contact Us | D&D 3rd Edition News Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.47b Note: This is an archived topic. It is read-only. D&D 3rd Edition News Board Other Archived Stuff What would your PCs do if gnomes invented the Industrial Revolution? (Page 10) UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! profile | register | preferences | faq | search This topic is 16 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 This topic was originally posted in this forum: General RPG Discussion Author Topic: What would your PCs do if gnomes invented the Industrial Revolution? Estlor Member posted 04-10-2001 12:26 PM Only problem with that, man, is if you read back, all Outsiders on Toril during the Month of Terror either died or were sent screaming back home. ------------------ The Lighthouse Webmaster "More conversions, less talk." maddman75 Member posted 04-10-2001 12:36 PM quote: Originally posted by Estlor: Only problem with that, man, is if you read back, all Outsiders on Toril during the Month of Terror either died or were sent screaming back home. Crap, I suppose you are right Well, the I retract my move. The fiends are still drooling to get into this war and get their hands on thier weapons. They will send magical messages to the leaders of the technocracy, humanoids, mind flayers, and Zuron's necromancers, promising aid in the war in exchange for the weaponry and the knowledge on how to use it. If your forces don't have the knowledge, just capture someone who does. We can be VERY persuasive. Alliance with demons or devils should be worth at least 2 power ratings, don't you think? And we PROMISE to leave after the war is over. The devils will even sign a contract to that effect. ------------------ "If I ever get a tumor I'm gonna name it Marla." Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 12:36 PM quote: Originally posted by buzzard: . . . Humanoids (cannon fodder) . . . As for the Humanoids, I do value these allies. I also hope some of our ideas beyond technology have taken root (the individual freedom, and capitalist notions). If not, we'll have to be cautious. In any case I don't see how they can manage technical parity. The key points to a technical society are the engineers and technicians, and they don't have them. Also, even if they did enslave some of these people,(which wouldn't have made the alliance very happy) slaves don't work very well and certainly don't innovate. All of the details of even railroad era technology are pretty complicated. Why do you think the Europeans dominated the world for so long? Orneriness? Nope, it was superior logistics, technology, and organization. None of which are hallmarks of the humanoids. As long as they cooperate with us we will provide arms and support. We will not, however, be willing to establish factories for them, nor will be train them in all of the technology. We mean no disrespect, but we've seen what has happened to us when we demonstrated our technology in the past. Buzzard Cannon fodder indeed. What makes a human with a gun any more important than an orc with one? As far as not having any engineers -- what makes you say *that*? Our ten or so races number in the MILLIONS when put together -- can you say the same? Our average intelligence is no less than yours. And finally, while the orcs and gnolls and bugbears and hobgoblins do the heavy work of slaying elves (with our goblins playing the part of scouts/snipers/etc., as they are best suited for it), our kobolds (well, mostly kobolds) are *quite* well organized and *quite* focused engineers. Sorry . . . but a Wartime Economy is not one that needs vast amounts of personal freedom in order to bloom. Over the long haul, it is necessary -- in the short, efficiency is where it's at. And there's no reason that we're less efficient than you are. You bring up one relevant point: slaves. Edena, actually, was the one who mentioned slaves, not I. The idea that we could trust the weak and wispy elves to do any important labor is laughable. They're used more for food than anything else. Our numbers are considerable enough that WE can work in the factories and in the mines, as opposed to using slave labor. You are correct that even given all of this, we probably do not have technological parity (even with our secret kobold factories churning and developing . . . ). And that's fine. But you can't let the cat half out of the bag, my good man. You turned to us to defend you when the elves were putting your cities in ruins. If you think that you could keep all of your secrets from us, or if you think that now that we've saved you, we're EXPENDABLE, that we're CANNON FODDER . . . well, let's not let it come to that. You can't let the genie half out of the bottle. Maybe you could if it were as though you were the US and we were Israel -- you have both a technological advantage and a vast numerical one. Not the case here. We have the numbers to *speed up* development, to hide factories in the Underdark where Dragons cannot easily get to them. I urge you, Technomancy allies, do not quake in fear at the idea of uniting with my people. It is elven heads we want, not yours. Human doesn't taste very good anyway. Forrester Friend of the Technomancy He of Less-That-Infinite-Patience Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-10-2001 12:38 PM Well, you heard Estlor. He has welcomed the kender and tinker gnomes into Toril. The tinker gnomes aren't going to be of much use. But the kender are another matter. This is literally a case of pandora's box being open and all the contents spilled out. The kender EAGERLY pile into every city, every town, crawl up into every machine, every device, every place in the world that will welcome them (and every place that doesn't welcome them, too.) There is amazement at these fearless, childlike beings from another world, which rapidly turns into other, less good emotions. The Dragon Overlords of Ansalon are now aware that there is this new world they could take for their own. Please remember that THESE dragons make average dragons look like lizards in comparison. ONE of them is a match for an entire nation. The Red Marauder sends a message to Toril - submit to me, and live. Resist, and die. Beryl sends a message to Evermeet - submit your island to me, or die. The Storm Over Krynn actually comes to the World of Toril, looking for Kitiara. He does not find her, but he does start building a massive force of draconians in some distant corner of Toril where nobody will notice. All the other Dragon Overlords pretty much send the same message to Toril: Prepare to be conquered. Submit, and live. Resist, and die. The Knights of Takhisis are all too happy to come to Toril with it's wealth of good lands, away from their own ravaged world. The draconians see Toril as a fruit ripe to be plucked and devoured. A lot of other major power groups take a good luck at Toril. For instance, the minotaurs see vast oceans to conquer. But the kender are everywhere, and - now having magic - are quite capable of defending themselves. (evil grin) The kender finally decide they are related to the elves, claiming that Balifor, their ancestor, was partially elven and friends with Silvanos, the first elven lord of Silvanesti. The kender, join the Elven Alliance! This boosts the Elven Alliance to Power Level 7. Kender are great at sabotage. And kender can get in ANYWHERE (there is no such thing as a lock-proof kender.) The technomancy suffers massive damage as the kender sabotage and derail vast amounts of their infrastruction and machinery. When the Technomancy attempts to exterminate the kender, they find this impossible. Kender are very good at hiding, very good at escape, and very capable of getting out of almost any situation, no matter how dire. Remember, it was the Faerie Folk who let the kender in. - - - Update. The demons and devils CAN now return to Toril. It has now been at least 2 or 3 years since the Month of Terror. So, if Maddman wishes to summon a hoard of evil Outsiders and inflict them on the world, he is free to do so. Just remember, though, be careful what you ask for, with the Fiends. You may just get it. [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).] Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 12:39 PM The humanoids will be first to announce that they are willing to make a Deal with the Devil(s). It is hardly as though the outer-fiends have greater enmity towards *us* than towards the elven menace, after all. We will, of course, make absolutely sure that this contract is IRONCLAD. Our best kobold sorcerers will go over it with Wishes to make sure there are no loopholes. True Names will be exchanged. Blood will be exchanged. Excellent. We welcome you to the fold. Bran Blackbyrd Member posted 04-10-2001 12:39 PM And, indeed, if a mass of demons starts to appear the celestials on our side are bound to clue in their comrades back home. They would pull in a sizeable host of their own to balance, or possibly overpower the influx of evil outsiders. ------------------ Jason "Warlocke" Lewis ---------------------- DM: You see there are orcs camped out in the chasm ahead of you. Me: Do they have multiple Orc-Chasms? Warlocke's Realm Phasmus Member posted 04-10-2001 12:42 PM Notes from the Illithid... Our research continues, and we use what knowledge can be gained from our planar contacts to bolster our efforts. Perhaps the astrologers of the surface note that the nights are getting longer than they should be, or the manifestation of strange long-lasting, unpredicted eclipses... Perhaps not. We are treating the phaerimm well, despite their enslavement. They are being so very helpful, and we doubt that we would find their brains appetizing anyway. We have made arrangements for the phaerimm, oh yes. In the unlikely event that we are successfully opposed by the vile surface dwellers... we will leave and the arcane abominations will have everything they need to take up the war against the beings of Toril on their own. They are more than capable of retaining control of our thralls. Without our guiding influence, the unleashed wrath of the phaerimm will make the Illithid emergence during the Month of Terror seem like a company picnic. Of course, again, none of you have access to this information. The phaerimm are well aware of what would have become of them had they been encountered by a race less likely to appreciate their unique gifts. Their hatred of life unlike themselves is a match for our own... as may be their cunning. We like to think of them as an insurance policy... If we loose, so do you... Regards, Phasmus T. Tapefiend Don'Calamari Speaker-To-Thralls Public Representative of the Illithid Horde-Master 1st Class Enkhidu Member posted 04-10-2001 12:43 PM Oh my word... A gentle minded philosopher holes himself up for a year in an extremely remote mountain cabin, and the world goes to pot. Oh well... As a note, something everyone most likely missed when Estlor's faction came together was that combined effect of putting Gnomish ingenuity with Dwarvish know how (and manufacturing capabilities!). Imagine all of the Technocracy's technology in the hands of a race who makes things that really work. Scary thought... Additionally... one thing the Illithids CANNOT overcome is gravity, and Dwarves have been known to cause some pretty serious cave ins... I tell you, all of this war and all destroying Toril in it's entirety... might just be enough to get a certain Overgod upset... I think I'll head back to the mountains... Enkhidu Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 12:45 PM Kender?! Oh, RIGHT. As if Kender are any more talented at wreaking havoc than a goblin with a double-barreled shotgun. Remember that we have *some* magic as well. Technology-enhanced "Alarm" spells, for one. I would say that after the first week or two of this nonsense, a great deal of kender die to boobytrapped equipment. They aren't freaking IMPS or GREMLINS for pete's sake! Those would be able to cause a LOT more damage. Oh, wait. We just made an alliance with Imps and Gremlins, among others. That is, the Demons and Devils. Hey, you guys. Get to work! ------------- Edena -- can you give us some (very approximate) total #s as to the size of each force? I'm curious as to humanoid numbers vs. Technomancy numbers, just to confirm that what I've been telling buzzard is true (that especially since the war, we vastly outnumber them, so they'd better not get too big for their britches). Also: Our diplomats have approached the evil creatures of the sea (such as Sauhaugin) and shown them some wonderful undersea weapons (like new spearguns and such), in an effort to get them to join us. We have also approached the Evilest of Dragons in an effort to get them to join us -- we can offer them great power -- GREAT power -- and after all, their accursed enemies are opposed to us. If they do not take a side in this conflict, they will find themselves at a disadvantage. Forrester Edit: We also start building anti-air guns (damned dragons), and are working as well on Ironclads and, heh heh, submarines. And I reiterate -- we are ENTRENCHING. Big mostly-underground fortresses, with both magic AND technology to defend ourselves. Our humanoids will help build such fortresses for the Technomancy cities, should they hear my plea: People of the Technomancy -- only with FULL cooperation can we hope to stem the tide of our enemies. I beseech you, let us work together fully and totally. [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-10-2001).] Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-10-2001 12:47 PM I have a piece of news that is going to sit badly with the Faerie Folk, and the Technomancy. The dwarves have switched sides! The dwarves declare they in alliance with the elves. This happens instantaneously, all across Faerun. The dwarven armies with the Faerie Folk, abandon them. Shortly thereafter, the Gnomes declare they are allied with the dwarves, and that they will share their technology with them. Shortly after that, the dwarves begin an all out attack on the Technomancy. So do the gnomes. As if seizing the moment, the Tuigan hordes attack the Technomancy from the east. Hundreds of thousands of savage warriors and mages come screaming in. - - - Technomancy spies report the elves are doing something strange. What it is they are doing, is not quite clear, but that it involves powerful magic, is. The dwarves, gnomes, and kender continue their attack on the Technomancy, and they are now pleading with the Faerie Folk for help. The dwarves point out to the Faerie Folk that the Technomancy has allied with Fiends from the Lower Planes, and that this indicates a mentality that must be stopped at all costs. [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).] Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-10-2001 12:56 PM Many of the evil dragons throw their lot in with the Technomancy at this point. The Sahuagin throw their lot in with the Technomancy at this point. Many other evil sea creatures join the Technomancy. I cannot give you numbers, only power levels. They are as follows: The Elven Alliance: 7 (up from 5) The Technomancy: 9 (up from 7) The Faerie Folk: 7 (down from 8) The Illithid: 10 The Planeswalkers: 2 Zouron's Army 1 People are now referring to this war as The War to End All Wars. Bran Blackbyrd Member posted 04-10-2001 12:56 PM A group of our wisest and most powerful Druid Elders, in conjunction with the nature spirits, with the aid of some of the artifacts we've recovered, are meditating in an attempt to use nature itself as a spy. Their ultimate goal is to create an immense network of intelligent (and perhaps even non-intelligent) plants, and creatures that can communicate with our leaders, in an instant, over vast distances. The advantage this has over regular "spying and scrying" is that nature is everywhere, and you cannot keep it out. To aid in this endeavor we are also cultivating a new form of intelligent tree and plant life that will grow faster than anything seen before. And only we will have a prayer of controlling it. If all goes well we will restore the deforested areas and have an unparallelled spy network in one fell swoop. If nothing else, we refuse to be taken be surprise! ------------------ Jason "Warlocke" Lewis ---------------------- DM: You see there are orcs camped out in the chasm ahead of you. Me: Do they have multiple Orc-Chasms? Warlocke's Realm Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 12:58 PM Edena -- immediate negotiations with the hordes from the east. I believe that our orcish barbarians have far more in common with them than the wispy elfie-welfies. FAR more in common. As it is, though, we're just going to hold our ground. I already said we're entrenched. Let them run through the rifle fire and the cannons and the traps we've laid. Our technonology is stronger, as you pointed out long ago, because we don't care about silly things like pollution. Much stronger. And we would not be calling for demon and devil aid for our DEFENSE had the outsiders (many killed by the elves) had been called for OFFENSE. Humanoids continue to get no respect. Well, you guys are about to find out how hard it is to storm fortresses against those with machine guns. Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-10-2001 12:59 PM Bran, the druids of Zakhara, Kara-Tur, and the Hordelands are with you at once (there aren't any druids left in Faerun ...) The druids on other continents and in the seas will help. The Faerie Folk almost immediately realize what you are doing, and offer to ally with you. Bran, with the druidical power, you immediately have a Power Ranking of 2, and it is growing fast. - - - The Faerie Folk are able to confirm what the elves are doing. They are ... atoning. They are attempting to rebuild ruined monuments, regrow forests, and otherwise give back to the world. They are trying to make up for the spell they cast, trying to heal and aid the Weave in recovery. - - - The Tuigan are not interested in parley. The Technomancy diplomats are returned to the Technomancy minus their heads. The Tuigan army is interested in slaughter. IMMEDIATE and unconditional surrender MIGHT be met with mercy (that is, you might be allowed to live.) I stress the might. The Tuigan say that the Technomancy must have offended the Gods, for they happen to be the victims of this massive onslaught. (If that logic sounds strange, it was what Genghis Khan said.) The Tuigan have a power level of 3. [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).] maddman75 Member posted 04-10-2001 01:01 PM The fiends sign a contract with Forresters foes to leave the Realms once 1)The technological weaponry and the knowledge of how to make them is in thier hands. 2)The war is over. I'm assuming (since a contract is involved) that you are signing with the devils. They indeed start working at the factories, both defending them and learning the secrest of making them. What do you know? Kender tastes just like chicken? They also send five Pit Fiends to serve as battlefield generals for the humanoids, as well as several squadrons of Abishai shock troops. The demons are not happy about this - they don't want the devils to get the weapons. They send magical messages to the leaders of ALL factions - we must have the weapons, we will win your war for you! ------------------ "If I ever get a tumor I'm gonna name it Marla." Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 01:05 PM Zouron! I invite you and your legions of undead to our side. Our shamans have always had far more in common with you than the faerae folk. Just look at all of those "ae"'s! Give us undead birds to carry bombs to drop upon our approaching enemies, undead -- well, just lots of undead. They'll be a lot more dead to raise after the war! Planeswalkers! You did initially say that you joined the Technomancy. We want PEACE, now that the elves have been punished for THEIR month of TERROR! And our spies say that they plan on perhaps raising a Tarrasque! THEY continue this war -- THEY started this war! Not us! We are protecting ourselves, just as we always have. Do not let our humanoid skin make you think that we do not deserve aid in this time of troubles. Please, join our side and help us *defend* ourselves against the elven horde. Faerie Folk! You asked us for peace -- we now want PEACE! You cannot deny that the elves started this war, and that by arrogantly ripping Magic from the universe for a month, they deserved punishment! We are happy with what we have conquered, and now seek an end to hostilities. Please, if you will not help us, at least do not help our enemies. They are the agressors here. Edena_of_Neith Member posted 04-10-2001 01:10 PM I am sorry to say this, but if the Technomancy signs with the devils, the demons join the elves at once. Demons will not work with devils! They are enemies!!! This mass inrushing of the Outsiders boosts the Technomancy to Power Level 9. I am assuming the elves refuse to treat with the demons. So, the demons go on an independent rampage against everyone, but especially the Technomancy. The Technomancy is now under attack by the demons, the dwarves, the gnomes, the kender, and the Tuigan Hordes. However, it is reasonable to assume the Technomancy is holding it's own. It is very powerful, and the devils make it more powerful, and the Githyanki/Githzerai/Scro make it more powerful, and the help from Zakhara is pouring in. There is an unconfirmed rumor that forces from the World of Oerth have entered the war. These rumors cannot be confirmed. Since the Dragon Overlords of Krynn have not been answered, they decide that when the time is ripe to attack Toril, they will teach it a lesson it will never forget. ((Need to go AFK for a while. Be back later to assess all new posts (chuckle) )) [This message has been edited by Edena_of_Neith (edited 04-10-2001).] Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 01:13 PM Maddman -- one other element in the contract. We call the shots -- our numbers are greater and we've been in the war longer. And I couldn't help but notice that in your very short description of the contract, you left open the possibility of TURNING AGAINST US, i.e., you don't leave until "The War Is Over" -- you could attack us and it would mean the war continued. We (that is, you and I, out-of-character) don't have to get down into the nitty gritty. Here's my guidelines: 1) You get the armaments, if not all of the technology. (Work on that yourself.) 2) You help US, the HUMANOIDS. And ONLY US. And that's standard "help" . . not "help you die" or any such killer-DM nonsense. 3) We have the most input in deciding when to attack/defend, or whatnot. So in other words, if we need a (temporary) peace, you'll go along with it for awhile. A temporary peace is not an End to the War, of course. Sound reasonable? Forrester the Reasonable [This message has been edited by Forrester (edited 04-10-2001).] The Burned Man Member posted 04-10-2001 01:14 PM Dregoth the Undead ruler of New Giustenal uses the Planar Gate to enter Toril. He offers his services to the technomancy, He offers psionic knowledge and defiler magic as well as the services of Athasian warriors.... Estlor Member posted 04-10-2001 01:21 PM Well, seeing that I am in some way guilty of letting the dragon overlords in, I order the Fairies that this war has become a place of no peace. It is now a matter of choosing which side you would rather have control a reshaped Toril. Humanoids and corrupt humans or elves, gnomes, dwarves, and the like. I call a meeting between myself, Oberon, Titania, the sea people's leaders, the strongest dragons, and the Celestials. We agree we would rather see the elves, seeking atonement, win this war, than the humanoids. As such, I send a message to the leaders of the elven Alliance stating the Fair will join them if they officially refuse the help of the demons (as celestials and demons don't work well together). Having done so, I go forth to answer to the Dragon Lords, hoping I can dissuade them from destroying Toril and convince them that there is nothing they seek here. I will attempt to show them the violence and pain suffered from this war and how Toril is doomed, making Toril seem as debased a place as possible. I'll even go as far as to sacrific the PC Estlor's life if it means stopping the Dragon Lords from invading. It's the least I can do for unleashing them on an unsuspecting world. ------------------ The Lighthouse Webmaster "More conversions, less talk." Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 01:23 PM Edena -- our power level was *already* 9, after the evil sea creatures and evil dragons joined us. So are we boosted up to 11 now? Booyah! Two notes: 1) Demons don't want to work with devils, but they'll work with elves? And Kender? Or at least offer their services?! 2) Devils with machine guns > than demons without. We mock them. Behind their backs. 3) I indeed send a representative to the Draconians. Clearly, they would be more interested in allying with humanoids than with stinky elves. We'd like to negotiate a temporary peace/alliance, to crush the evil elven onslaught. After all, see our nifty little guns? Let us know when the pathetic barbarian hordes waving their little pointy sticks have been crushed by our millions of well-armed and entrenched humanoids. Power level "3" my pasty humanoid butt. We outnumber them five-fold, perhaps ten-fold, and their spears are no match for our magic-enhanced gunnery. And they're stupid enough to storm US? Let me know what they taste like. Phasmus Member posted 04-10-2001 01:28 PM Fools... Do you realize what you have done? By summoning the blood war to Toril you have doomed us all... There will be nothing left for us to dominate, save a lifeless wasteland. In the underdark, while their opposition is otherwise occupied, the Illithid make a large, unexpected push, expanding and fortifying their holdings as much and as safely as possible. They avoid areas claimed by those untainted by the lower planes. They do not approach the surface in their expansion, and they seal themselves in once again when they finish. The efforts to plunge the world of Toril into eternal night are redoubled, now more in hopes of stopping the conflict before it is too late than in securing instant mastery of the world. A message written in an unnatural-looking hand appears in the living quarters of the head members of all factions not allied with the outsiders. It reads the same for each. "Our goals diverge on many things... but we suspect you will agree that having Toril overrun by the forces of the lower planes benefits no one. We are willing to offer you our assistance solely where the elimination of those vile creatures and their associates is concerned. We will act with hostility neither toward you, nor toward your other enemies. Think about it... loudly. If you are interested in negotiating on these terms, we will know. A representative will contact you shortly after a decision is reached between the other leaders of your forces. Regards, The Illithid" Estlor Member posted 04-10-2001 01:28 PM Forrester, don't forget the elves have both the gnomes and the dwarves on their side now. That means they'll probably win an arms race if it's technology you want to talk about ------------------ The Lighthouse Webmaster "More conversions, less talk." [This message has been edited by Estlor (edited 04-10-2001).] Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 01:35 PM quote: Originally posted by Estlor: Well, seeing that I am in some way guilty of letting the dragon overlords in, I order the Fairies that this war has become a place of no peace. It is now a matter of choosing which side you would rather have control a reshaped Toril. Humanoids and corrupt humans or elves, gnomes, dwarves, and the like. I call a meeting between myself, Oberon, Titania, the sea people's leaders, the strongest dragons, and the Celestials. We agree we would rather see the elves, seeking atonement, win this war, than the humanoids. As such, I send a message to the leaders of the elven Alliance stating the Fair will join them if they officially refuse the help of the demons (as celestials and demons don't work well together). Having done so, I go forth to answer to the Dragon Lords, hoping I can dissuade them from destroying Toril and convince them that there is nothing they seek here. I will attempt to show them the violence and pain suffered from this war and how Toril is doomed, making Toril seem as debased a place as possible. I'll even go as far as to sacrific the PC Estlor's life if it means stopping the Dragon Lords from invading. It's the least I can do for unleashing them on an unsuspecting world. Hah! Typical Weak-Folk talk. I offer the DragonLords Evermeet should they help us wipe the elves off the face of the planet. And other elven lands besides. The weak Fae talk of peace -- supposedly -- while waging war on the Technomancy. They atone?! ATONE? By killing humanoids, whose only sin was to DEFEND against an UNWARRANTED ATTACK?! Typical elf-logic. As usual. The elves offer the Dragonlords nothing. I offer them seas rich with elven blood. Meanwhile, our Gith friends are working on a way to do to Psionics what the foolish elves did to Magic -- but instead of doing it for a month, only for a day, or an hour, or a minute. A winking on and off of psionic energy, so to speak. High Psionics if you will. Such a power would likely not do much to harm the illithids . . . but it would likely free many of the Phaerimm. Perhaps temporarily, perhaps not. Forrester Forrester Member posted 04-10-2001 01:44 PM Estlor: Note Edena's comments below. Gnomish technology -- fah! As Edena notes below, the magic/techno edge we have kicks butt. And how many humanoids are there compared to gnomes and dwarves? We outnumber you guys, sorry . . . and we've been going for five years straight. The dwarves just got into this -- and the gnomes had to desert their factories. You'll be able to catch up eventually, perhaps (or at least stay roughly the same distance behind), but we have the edge now. Cannot the gnomes come to an understanding with us? It is the elves that started this whole mess -- and now they ally with them?! quote: Originally posted by Edena_of_Neith: It should be becoming obvious to all sides that: --- The gnomes aren't doing that much damage with their non-magical weapons, powerful though they are. --- The industrialized nations aren't doing that much damage with their non-magical weapons, powerful though they are. --- The elves and druids, and their allies, aren't doing that much damage with their non-magical weapons, powerful though they are. It is the mages who are doing the worst damage. --- They are the ones combining magic and technology to make technomagic weapons. --- They are the ones who are (on the Technomancy side) shouting the glories of technology, then secretly using it to boost their magical powers. --- They are the ones who are summoning the Outsiders. --- They are the ones who got the dragons involved in the war, and continue to keep them involved. 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