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<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 1304701" data-attributes="member: 2020">(Post 6) The Second IRRiot Gear &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 202 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 02, 2001 07:43 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The emissary of the Angels of Hope Island arrives - A single Lantern Archon, redolent of goodness,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; love, and purity. It looks to the Chosen with a simple, invisible smile. &quot;I'm here now. I'm sorry I'm&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; late.&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The emissary of the devils restrains from blasting it in to screaming oblivion, I hope.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; --------------------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; -------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I love maces, I really do. That crunch noise is just SO satisfying, and the flying shards of bloody bone&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; - Well, that's just icing on the cake. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 1574 | Registered: Dec 2000&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; zouron &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 3707 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 02, 2001 07:47 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; *glances to the old druid, raising a brow*&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; well I don't intent to defend my purposes, just know your magic. I animate only the mindless, those&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; without souls bound, the damned ones join my in return for a reward, nothing more nothing less.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; *shake his head and turns back to the chosen, listening.*&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; --------------------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Alone is something we all are&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; only far away voices breaks the silence&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; whom wish to escape&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; this labyrinth of loneliness&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; we fumble our way, but finds nothing&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; because here are no walls&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; only the fear's angst&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; keeps us apart&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 158 | From: Hvidovre, Denmark | Registered: Apr 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp; All times are US Central Time &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; This topic is comprised of pages:&nbsp; 1&nbsp; 2&nbsp; 3&nbsp; 4&nbsp; 5&nbsp; 6&nbsp; 7&nbsp; 8&nbsp; 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&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; EN World Messageboards&nbsp;&nbsp; » Bits N Pieces&nbsp;&nbsp; » In Character&nbsp;&nbsp; » (IR) All involved in the Gnomish IR: You are&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; summoned by the Chosen to face charges (Page 4) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; This topic is comprised of pages:&nbsp; 1&nbsp; 2&nbsp; 3&nbsp; 4&nbsp; 5&nbsp; 6&nbsp; 7&nbsp; 8&nbsp; 9&nbsp; 10&nbsp; 11&nbsp; 12&nbsp; 13&nbsp; 14&nbsp; 15&nbsp; 16&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Author &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Topic: (IR) All involved in the Gnomish IR: You are summoned by the Chosen to face charges &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena_of_Neith &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 1235 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 02, 2001 07:55 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Chosen look at Iuz, and the Lady from Silverymoon speaks:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The matter of the Humanoid Alliance providing you with soldiers to assault another world is very&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; serious, for it threatens to pull Toril into an intergalactic war.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; However - for the moment - we will say no more on this matter.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; If you wish to negotiate with the Humanoid ambassador for troops to aid you on Oerth, please be our&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; guest.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Likewise, we will not interfere with any who insist on negotiations with the Planars who are present.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We would like to remind all of you that we have something to say, and we intend that it be said, and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; you all hear it.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We merely await the arrival of everyone we summoned, so that all WILL hear us, and think upon what&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; we, the Chosen, have to say.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Chosen then look at the Humanoid emissary, and the Lady comments:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Faerie ambassador has answered you.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; What have you to say to him?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Rhialto has condemned you.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; What have you to say to him?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [ December 02, 2001: Message edited by: Edena_of_Neith ]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 1566 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 2760 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 02, 2001 07:57 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; quote:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Originally posted by Blood Jester:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;You claim that it is the Elves fault that the various races of your coalition were for&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; millennia savage, bloodthirsty banes on the decent peoples and creatures of the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; realms? You take no responsibility for you own behaviours huh?&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;And what of they other races you harmed? Is it [/i]their fault as well? Should they&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; also beg your forgiveness, and now submit to live under your oh-so-gentle yolk?&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; *snicker*&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We may be savage and bloodthirsty, but we have not made anyone submit to our yolks, or even the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; whites! &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Your words bleed racism. &quot;Savage and bloodthirsty&quot; indeed. That is how you see us, and that is how we&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; have always been seen. Unfairly. The Technomancy chose to look at us with more open eyes -- and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; that is why they are here, and your friends the elves are not. You would do well to keep that in mind,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Druid. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We have brought to Toril an unprecedented peace. Our leaders are benevolent, our people happy.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; They have freedom, so much more freedom than when they had to subsist off of grubs and fungus in&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the Underdark. We peacefully coexist with the humans and dwarves and yes, even the Kender.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (Usually.) What more do you want of us? You want us to stop our mining, our building, our creation? &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Fat f'ing chance, elf-lover. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; It is time for us to put this unfortunate past behind us, and look to the future. A future in which the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Weave is repaired, a future in which we lead the other peoples of Toril out of the Stone Age and into a&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; happier, healthier, more educated Tomorrow. A future in which we explore the very stars themselves. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We leave you to your trees. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; And IUZ -- if you can show me where I made an ironclad promise (or even a not-so-ironclad one) to&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; help your forces in Oerth, I shall consider your words more carefully. For I remember no such promise.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Perhaps you can refresh my memory (i.e., point to a quote in the Archive)? As I recall, our deal was for&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; nothing more than some technology, if that. (I believe the Devils may have had a problem with my&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; working with you, and so your assistance was, in the end, refused. We should consult our records . . . )&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Regardless, let us talk . . . AFTER this conference. My people have much concern for their brethren on&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Oerth, after all. Perhaps we can send some &quot;advisors&quot; to help with the situation. Nothing formal, of&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; course. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Peacemaker&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [ December 02, 2001: Message edited by: Forrester ]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 699 | Registered: Mar 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena_of_Neith &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 1235 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 02, 2001 08:00 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Chosen watch in stony silence, as the Humanoid ambassador and the Faerie ambassador make&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; their cases, and Iuz presses his request, and others break in to argue their own situations. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 1566 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 2760 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 02, 2001 08:04 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; quote:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Originally posted by Edena_of_Neith:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Rhialto has condemned you.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; What have you to say to him?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; In the last 40 years, I have been condemned by many an ignorant man. What of it? He would&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; probably like to blame me for the fact that his breeches are riding up on him. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The elves were willing to bring an end to life on Toril, just as we Humanoids had an opportunity to rise&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; out of our situation. If we did not step in and help the Technomancy, they, and we, would certainly&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; have perished. And at the end of the War, if we did not wipe out the elves (thus weakening the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Weave, and preventing the Illithid from blotting out the Sun), we would have had to direct all of our&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; forces against the Deep Illithid -- upon which time the elves would have struck at us and eliminated us&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; forever. Or, we would have failed, and the Illithid would have successful. Not an option. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; It was us, or them. There was no in-between. Surprise surprise, we chose US. It was unfortunate for&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; them . . . perhaps on other worlds, they will learn to accept change a bit faster. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Peacemaker &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 699 | Registered: Mar 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Aloïsius &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 2977 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 02, 2001 08:25 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; A young man, wearing red and yellow vestments enter the room. He looks like a novice of some&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; monastic order. His face is human, but he surely has some elven blood.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;My name is Hazedil, I'm here to represent the Church of the Morning Lord, Lathander, and his first&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; servant on Toril, the Half-Elf Songe of Zephyr. As some of you may know, he wasn't present on Toril&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; during the 7 years war. And when he returned from his quest, he found his world devasted, and half of&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; his kin exterminated. Great was his anger, greater was his sadness, but even greater was his sense of&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; responsability. He was a servant of the God of Renewal, and knew his duty.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; He used his powers to resurect some member of his family, some humans, and many elves. So the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; elves of Toril are no more dead , not all of them.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I can't speak for the elves in this trial, however, cause resurecting the old elven leaders (he turn his&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; head in the direction of Queen Amlaruil) and responsables of this failure, especially those who have so&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; badly abused from elven high magic, is not our most urgent task, but, in the name of Lathander, I&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; claim the right for the elves to live in peace and safety on Toril, under the guidance and protection of&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the Morning Lord.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; It's look like some factions present here are using menaces to reach their political goals. We won't.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Instead, we will propose our help to all of those who are ready to save Toril from the death of the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; weave, Mystra's very own body. None better than us have mastered the fusion of science and magic for&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; medical purpose.&quot; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 345 | From: Montpellier, France | Registered: Mar 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; zouron &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 3707 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 02, 2001 08:34 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; *smirks slight giving his own thoughts to the best to combine science and magic claim, then thinks of what, if&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; anything, he could possibly ue from that to improve his own knowledge*&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; --------------------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Alone is something we all are&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; only far away voices breaks the silence&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; whom wish to escape&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; this labyrinth of loneliness&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; we fumble our way, but finds nothing&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; because here are no walls&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; only the fear's angst&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; keeps us apart&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 158 | From: Hvidovre, Denmark | Registered: Apr 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; johnbrown &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 3531 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 02, 2001 08:40 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The following is all completely out of character.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; While this and other discussions were happening fast and furious at this point, the subject was brought&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; up a few times. Here is an example of a quote by me (found on the third page of Edena?s re-posting):&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;Iuz no problem with this arrangement. A formal or informal alliance makes no difference to&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; him.....Iuz does expect Humanoid assistance (no Devils invited) on Oerth when this is over, however.&quot; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; And here is one from you (found further down on the same page):&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;Meanwhile, I secretly talk with Iuz about a possible invasion of Oerth. Most of the &quot;good&quot; powerful&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; forces apparently have come to Faerun. No doubt that there are humanoid factories starting up in&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Oerth. And besides, the Toril sun is about to be blotted out anyway. It may be time to leave this&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; accursed world, and start in a new one. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; NOBODY expected THAT, DID you?! &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Lord Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Considering Getting The Hell Out Of Here&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Now recognizing that we are all playing parts then and now, and considering the rate that posts were&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; coming in at that point. I would say that from Iuz?s point of view, a deal had been struck, and he is&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; now looking to you to hold up your end of the bargain. (Man, I forgot how much fun this was&nbsp; ). But&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Iuz is immortal and very patient. He is willing to wait and discuss it later. As long as it gets discussed&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; and some action he finds satisfactory is taken.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; --------------------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; After all, it is all about having fun .....&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 67 | From: St. Louis, MO, USA | Registered: Mar 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Aloïsius &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 2977 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 02, 2001 08:56 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; BTW, I personaly wish that we use some more adequate terms, since we are now in the third age of&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the world (the first being the age of thunder, and the second being ended since the quasi destruction&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; of Toril) we must use the appropriate words . There are scientific proofs that the old denomination of&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; humans, demi-humans and humanoids are erroneous. In fact there are only humanoids, the so-called&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; humans and demi-humans being only subtype of humanoids. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 3rd edition only&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 345 | From: Montpellier, France | Registered: Mar 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena_of_Neith &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 1235 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 02, 2001 09:02 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The female Chosen from Waterdeep steps forward.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; She is the most beautiful of all the Chosen, this young lady.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Her voice is also beautiful, but there is a steely edge in it as she speaks now:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; - - -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We wish to discuss that which you call Forgiveness.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forgiveness, a willingness to set the past aside, and start over with a clean slate.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We, the Chosen, would like to advocate that sometimes Forgiveness is expedient.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We, the Chosen, would like to advocate that sometimes Forgiveness prevents suffering.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We, the Chosen, would like to advocate that sometimes Forgiveness offers hope.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We do not advocate that it is the right thing, necessarily, in these cases, merely that it is the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; expedient thing.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We cite as a Case Example: The condemnation of Araunshanee ((pardon the spelling,)) whom you&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; know now as Lolth, and her son Vhaerun by Corellon after the Godswar.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Without taking a side on the right or the wrong of Corellon's decision, we wish to discuss it's&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; expediency and the consequences of it.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; For those of you who are unfamiliar with the events in question:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Araunshanee sought dominion of Arvandor for herself.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; To this end, she betrayed Corellon to Grumsh, nearly succeeding in her quest to kill him.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; She made alliance with Malar the Beastlord, to further her cause.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; She aided in the creation of a Host of Evil Gods, aided them in finding Arvandor, and aided them in&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; assaulting Arvandor.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Many of the Gods of Arvandor were wounded or killed in the battle, but they were victorious over their&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; enemies.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; She misdirected Eilistraee's arrow, so that it struck Corellon.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Her son, Vhaerun, collaborated with her on many of these acts.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; When discovered, she assailed Corellon in a final battle.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Corellon, upon discovery of her acts, uttered a condemnation of her, pronouncing her Ta'nari&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Upon his pronounciation, her form changed into the form she now wears today, the form you associate&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; with Lolth.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; After his pronouciation, her mind altered considerably, and for the worst.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Upon his pronouciation, she assailed him, and there was a final battle between the two.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Corellon was the victor, but he did not slay her.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Corellon banished her to the Abyss.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Corellon banished her son, Vhaerun, to the Prime Material Plane.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We, the Chosen, believe that Corellon Larethian chose to condemn and to punish, for right or for&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; wrong.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We see this in his decision to pronounce her Ta'nari.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We, the Chosen, believe that Corellon Larethian did not choose to forgive Araunshanee, at that time.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Corellon choose condemnation and punishment, not forgiveness.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Now that we have built such a case as we could for the historical facts of this matter, we would like to&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; show the consequences of this refusal to forgive.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Araunshanee became Lolth, Demon-Queen of one of the Layers of the Abyss, and the Fiends there&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; became her subjects. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Vhaerun proceeded to corrupt the Ilthyrri and those elves who would pay him heed, into violence,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; decadence, and oppression and enslavement of their fellow elves.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Lolth, when her interest returned to the elves, began a long term campaign to lead them into revolt&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; against the Seldarine.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Lolth further corrupted the Ilthyrri, seizing control from Vhaerun, and making these elves into mortal&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; foes of all their brethren.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Subsequent wars between the ilthyrri and the elves caused mass destruction and death, and led to the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Descent of the Drow.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Drow have, since that time, assailed the surface world as they could, bringing wholesale slaughter&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; and destruction upon their surface brethren, and upon the surface population in general.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Drow, under Lolth's influence, assailed the other Races Below, destroying and enslaving many,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; and causing losses to all.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Humanoid ambassador and the NeoIllithid ambassadors, present now, can testify as to the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; magnitude of this destruction, slaughter, and enslavement.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The tragedy of the Ilthyrri - their corruption by Lolth - is not confined to Toril, but exists on many&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; worlds, and in Wildspace in many Crystal Spheres, and on the Inner and Outer Planes.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; A vast amount of suffering and destruction has occurred in all of these places because the Drow, under&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the influence of Lolth, willed it so.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We acknowledge the destructive presence of Ghaunadaur and other Dieties of Evil amongst the Drow,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; and the wreckage caused by their following: that is irrelevant to the point, for this discussion is about&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Lolth and Vhaerun.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Do any amongst this assemblage contest that the drow have not committed mass destruction, mass&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; murder, and mass oppression and enslavement, in the name of Lolth?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Do any amonst this assemblage contest that the drow have not committed mass destruction and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; murder upon all the others of elvenkind?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We, the Chosen, would like to argue that Corellon's pronouncement upon Araunshanee and Vhaerun,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; was not expedient.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We, the Chosen, would like to argue that Corellon's refusal to extend forgiveness to Araunshanee and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Vhaerun, was not expedient.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We, the Chosen, would like to argue that it would have been in the better interests of many, including&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the Ilthyrri who were to become the Drow, if Corellon had extended forgiveness to Araunshanee and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Vhaerun.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Our point is that Forgiveness can be expedient, regardless of right or wrong, or any emotional&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; conditions.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; This point relates to several amongst yourselves.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; To cite case points:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Githyanki versus NeoIllithid and Deep Illithid&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Humanoid versus Elf&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Technomancer versus Faerie&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We concede that forgiveness is not an option to the Fiends, except in isolated cases, and we exclude&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; them from this topic of discussion.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; However, forgiveness is a major player in this current debate between the emissaries we see before us&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; in this Court.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We believe that forgiveness or the lack of forgiveness will play a major role in the future of all&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; gathered, and in the future of Realmspace and many other Crystal Spheres.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We, the Chosen, advocate that those of you who have the capacity to forgive, consider it as an option.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; An option for the sake of expediency.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (In the middle of this speech, it was necessary for the drow emissary to be magically held, after she&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; started screaming in fury and tried to attack the Chosen.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Following this speech, the Chosen fall silent, awaiting comments, criticisms, critiques, rebukes, and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; discussion on what has been said.)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [ December 02, 2001: Message edited by: Edena_of_Neith ]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 1566 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; johnbrown &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 3531 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 02, 2001 09:21 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Iuz chuckles briefly and looks at the Chosen as if to say ?and?is that it???&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; --------------------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; After all, it is all about having fun .....&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 67 | From: St. Louis, MO, USA | Registered: Mar 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Aloïsius &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 2977 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 02, 2001 09:22 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; quote:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Originally posted by Edena_of_Neith:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forgiveness, a willingness to set the past aside, and start over with a clean slate.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We, the Chosen, advocate that those of you who have the capacity to forgive, consider it&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; as an option.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; An option for the sake of expediency.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;Start over a clean slate...&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;I can't say nothing but aggree. This the teaching of our Lord&quot; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 345 | From: Montpellier, France | Registered: Mar 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Aloïsius &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 2977 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 02, 2001 09:25 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena, won't the lone elven survivor join his brethren in North Maztica ?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ( I mean, the one coming from realmspace, not the drow...)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; edited for clarification&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [ December 02, 2001: Message edited by: Aloïsius ]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 345 | From: Montpellier, France | Registered: Mar 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 2760 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 02, 2001 09:25 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester starts to yawn as the Chosen babble on about the insignificant history of elvish infighting, then&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; catches himself, grins, and shrugs slightly as two or three of the assemblage shake their heads in disdain.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We are at an advantage, compared to the Gith/Illithid and the Fae/Technomancy, for most of whom&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; we should &quot;forgive&quot; are, well, somewhat beyond forgiveness at this point. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I wish to hear from the Queen and the other elves before I comment further on the matter. But based&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; on the comments of the drow, and of the Druid, I am not expecting much . . . &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; And Iuz . . . yes, I remember now. We were going to deal, but then the devils insisted that we make&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; no formal arrangements to gain your help on this world. And so, little help was given on your part -- at&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; best, you restrained some demons from interfering with our plans. I hardly think you would have to&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; restrain them much, for to pit themselves against US would mean that they would be allying&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; themselves with the elves, and all things Fae! &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We do not find ourselves indebted to you, Iuz, but that is not to say that we cannot come to some&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; arrangement in the future. Let us see what happens in this conference, and then we shall talk . . . for I&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; know you admire the outcome of our war in Toril, do you not?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Peacemaker&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [ December 02, 2001: Message edited by: Forrester ]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 699 | Registered: Mar 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena_of_Neith &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 1235 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 02, 2001 09:30 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Aloisius, no.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; He is here, though, to speak for the one-time Elven Alliance (or the tiny remnant thereof.)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The elves of Northern Maztica finally do send a representative, at this point.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Aloisius, if you would like to speak for the Elven Alliance or the Elves of Northern Maztica, please feel&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; free to do so!&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (Where is Colonel Hardisson when you need him? Or Upper Krust? Or even Col_Pladoh? They could&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; make very good arguments for the side they choose to take ...) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 1566 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena_of_Neith &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 1235 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 02, 2001 09:33 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Someone else must speak for the spirit of Queen Amlaruil. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; It is not my place.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; There were several elven players in the old IR thread who could speak for her.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [ December 02, 2001: Message edited by: Edena_of_Neith ]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 1566 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Aloïsius &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 2977 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 02, 2001 09:33 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; quote:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Originally posted by Forrester<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious&nbsp; &nbsp; :]" data-shortname=":]" />Forrester starts to yawn as the Chosen babble on about the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; insignificant history of elvish infighting, then catches himself, grins, and shrugs slightly as two&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; or three of the assemblage shake their heads in disdain.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We are at an advantage, compared to the Gith/Illithid and the Fae/Technomancy, for&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; most of whom we should &quot;forgive&quot; are, well, somewhat beyond forgiveness at this point. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; No...&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; quote:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I wish to hear from the Queen and the other elves before I comment further on the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; matter. But based on the comments of the drow, and of the Druid, I am not expecting&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; much . . . &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; As I said, I can't speak for the old, and dead, elven leaders, but, in the name of the survivors living&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; under Lathander guidance, I can say that the Elves of Toril are ready to forgive. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 345 | From: Montpellier, France | Registered: Mar 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Rhialto the&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Marvellous &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 4171 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 02, 2001 09:34 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; quote:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Originally posted by Forrester:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; In the last 40 years, I have been condemned by many an ignorant man. What of it? He&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; would probably like to blame me for the fact that his breeches are riding up on him. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The elves were willing to bring an end to life on Toril, just as we Humanoids had an&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; opportunity to rise out of our situation. If we did not step in and help the Technomancy,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; they, and we, would certainly have perished. And at the end of the War, if we did not&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; wipe out the elves (thus weakening the Weave, and preventing the Illithid from&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; blotting out the Sun), we would have had to direct all of our forces against the Deep&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Illithid -- upon which time the elves would have struck at us and eliminated us forever.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Or, we would have failed, and the Illithid would have successful. Not an option. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; It was us, or them. There was no in-between. Surprise surprise, we chose US. It was&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; unfortunate for them . . . perhaps on other worlds, they will learn to accept change a bit&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; faster. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Peacemaker&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Rhialto stares at Forrester with something akin to amused pity.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I believe we all know whose breeches are riding up here, my friend. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; But to return to my queries...yes, you did manage to stop the illithids in their plot to blot out the sun.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; However, this was an almost incidental side-effect to your slaughter, and one that was completely&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; unknown to you. In fact, by your own admission, you ignored a present, definite threat to stop a&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; possible, indefinite one. The fact that you almost accidentally solved the problem does not solve&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; this--you both knowingly, and unknowningly endangered the world to chase after your vendetta. I'm&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; afraid you're only making a greater case against yourself, emissary.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; In addition, you have failed to provide an answer for the questions I have raised. You bear perhaps&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the largest portion of blame for the deaths of millions upon millions. Yet you continue to snicker&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; smugly, and assert that it was all the other guy's fault. You're not convincing me of that, and I do not&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; think you are convincing your judges, either. You may continue with your present course of argument,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; if you like, but I do not think it will profit you in the long run.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; With that, Rhialto turns away--then pauses as if remembering something. He glances at Iuz the Old, and then&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; walks towards the pit fiend.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but by the terms of your contract, the Humanoids were supposed to&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; forswear demon allies. Now, Iuz is, to my knowledge, a demon, and it is revealed, has an outstanding&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; alliance with the Humanoid nation. Does this violate your contract? And how will you respond if it does? &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 122 | Registered: Apr 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena_of_Neith &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 1235 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 02, 2001 09:40 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Chosen appear very surprised, then very pleased, to hear the Elven Alliance emissary state the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; elves will forgive.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; However, they then turn to the shade of Queen Amlaruil, and see that she is silent.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The emissary of the elves from Northern Maztica is also silent.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Chosen return to their stony silence, listening to all that is said. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 1566 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; johnbrown &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 3531 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 02, 2001 09:40 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I will agree. You have done well for yourselves. And perhaps, we can come to a mutually beneficial&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; agreement. But I suspect that the Chosen have something more to say?and if it evolves any of the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; things I thinking of, you might end up more indebted to me than you think. It has been my&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; experience that when quasi-deities such as themselves become involved, the other shoe almost&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; always drops.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; --------------------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; After all, it is all about having fun .....&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 67 | From: St. Louis, MO, USA | Registered: Mar 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Aloïsius &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 2977 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 02, 2001 09:41 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; quote:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Originally posted by Edena_of_Neith:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Aloisius, no.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; He is here, though, to speak for the one-time Elven Alliance (or the tiny remnant&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; thereof.)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The elves of Northern Maztica finally do send a representative, at this point.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Aloisius, if you would like to speak for the Elven Alliance or the Elves of Northern&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Maztica, please feel free to do so!&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (Where is Colonel Hardisson when you need him? Or Upper Krust? Or even Col_Pladoh?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; They could make very good arguments for the side they choose to take ...)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I fear I missed some (big) parts in the old thread... If the elves of Northern Maztica are not the the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; few resurected by Songe (I choose Northern Maztica as their hiding place remember) then I don't know&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; who they are ? With just a little more information, I can speak in their name. (and edit the above&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; post) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 345 | From: Montpellier, France | Registered: Mar 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 1304701, member: 2020"] [b](Post 6) The Second IR[/b] Riot Gear Member Member # 202 posted December 02, 2001 07:43 PM The emissary of the Angels of Hope Island arrives - A single Lantern Archon, redolent of goodness, love, and purity. It looks to the Chosen with a simple, invisible smile. "I'm here now. I'm sorry I'm late." The emissary of the devils restrains from blasting it in to screaming oblivion, I hope. -------------------- ------- I love maces, I really do. That crunch noise is just SO satisfying, and the flying shards of bloody bone - Well, that's just icing on the cake. :D Posts: 1574 | Registered: Dec 2000 | IP: Logged zouron Member Member # 3707 posted December 02, 2001 07:47 PM *glances to the old druid, raising a brow* well I don't intent to defend my purposes, just know your magic. I animate only the mindless, those without souls bound, the damned ones join my in return for a reward, nothing more nothing less. *shake his head and turns back to the chosen, listening.* -------------------- Alone is something we all are only far away voices breaks the silence whom wish to escape this labyrinth of loneliness we fumble our way, but finds nothing because here are no walls only the fear's angst keeps us apart Posts: 158 | From: Hvidovre, Denmark | Registered: Apr 2001 | IP: Logged All times are US Central Time This topic is comprised of pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 Hop To: Contact Us | EN World - D&D/d20 News & Reviews Powered by Infopop Corporation Ultimate Bulletin BoardTM 6.1.0.3 my profile | register | search | faq | forum home » Hello, Edena_of_Neith [ log out ] EN World Messageboards » Bits N Pieces » In Character » (IR) All involved in the Gnomish IR: You are summoned by the Chosen to face charges (Page 4) This topic is comprised of pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 Author Topic: (IR) All involved in the Gnomish IR: You are summoned by the Chosen to face charges Edena_of_Neith Member Member # 1235 posted December 02, 2001 07:55 PM The Chosen look at Iuz, and the Lady from Silverymoon speaks: The matter of the Humanoid Alliance providing you with soldiers to assault another world is very serious, for it threatens to pull Toril into an intergalactic war. However - for the moment - we will say no more on this matter. If you wish to negotiate with the Humanoid ambassador for troops to aid you on Oerth, please be our guest. Likewise, we will not interfere with any who insist on negotiations with the Planars who are present. We would like to remind all of you that we have something to say, and we intend that it be said, and you all hear it. We merely await the arrival of everyone we summoned, so that all WILL hear us, and think upon what we, the Chosen, have to say. The Chosen then look at the Humanoid emissary, and the Lady comments: The Faerie ambassador has answered you. What have you to say to him? Rhialto has condemned you. What have you to say to him? [ December 02, 2001: Message edited by: Edena_of_Neith ] Posts: 1566 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged Forrester Member Member # 2760 posted December 02, 2001 07:57 PM quote: Originally posted by Blood Jester: "You claim that it is the Elves fault that the various races of your coalition were for millennia savage, bloodthirsty banes on the decent peoples and creatures of the realms? You take no responsibility for you own behaviours huh?" "And what of they other races you harmed? Is it [/i]their[i] fault as well? Should they also beg your forgiveness, and now submit to live under your oh-so-gentle yolk?" *snicker* We may be savage and bloodthirsty, but we have not made anyone submit to our yolks, or even the whites! Your words bleed racism. "Savage and bloodthirsty" indeed. That is how you see us, and that is how we have always been seen. Unfairly. The Technomancy chose to look at us with more open eyes -- and that is why they are here, and your friends the elves are not. You would do well to keep that in mind, Druid. We have brought to Toril an unprecedented peace. Our leaders are benevolent, our people happy. They have freedom, so much more freedom than when they had to subsist off of grubs and fungus in the Underdark. We peacefully coexist with the humans and dwarves and yes, even the Kender. (Usually.) What more do you want of us? You want us to stop our mining, our building, our creation? Fat f'ing chance, elf-lover. It is time for us to put this unfortunate past behind us, and look to the future. A future in which the Weave is repaired, a future in which we lead the other peoples of Toril out of the Stone Age and into a happier, healthier, more educated Tomorrow. A future in which we explore the very stars themselves. We leave you to your trees. And IUZ -- if you can show me where I made an ironclad promise (or even a not-so-ironclad one) to help your forces in Oerth, I shall consider your words more carefully. For I remember no such promise. Perhaps you can refresh my memory (i.e., point to a quote in the Archive)? As I recall, our deal was for nothing more than some technology, if that. (I believe the Devils may have had a problem with my working with you, and so your assistance was, in the end, refused. We should consult our records . . . ) Regardless, let us talk . . . AFTER this conference. My people have much concern for their brethren on Oerth, after all. Perhaps we can send some "advisors" to help with the situation. Nothing formal, of course. Forrester Peacemaker [ December 02, 2001: Message edited by: Forrester ] Posts: 699 | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member Member # 1235 posted December 02, 2001 08:00 PM The Chosen watch in stony silence, as the Humanoid ambassador and the Faerie ambassador make their cases, and Iuz presses his request, and others break in to argue their own situations. Posts: 1566 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged Forrester Member Member # 2760 posted December 02, 2001 08:04 PM quote: Originally posted by Edena_of_Neith: Rhialto has condemned you. What have you to say to him? In the last 40 years, I have been condemned by many an ignorant man. What of it? He would probably like to blame me for the fact that his breeches are riding up on him. The elves were willing to bring an end to life on Toril, just as we Humanoids had an opportunity to rise out of our situation. If we did not step in and help the Technomancy, they, and we, would certainly have perished. And at the end of the War, if we did not wipe out the elves (thus weakening the Weave, and preventing the Illithid from blotting out the Sun), we would have had to direct all of our forces against the Deep Illithid -- upon which time the elves would have struck at us and eliminated us forever. Or, we would have failed, and the Illithid would have successful. Not an option. It was us, or them. There was no in-between. Surprise surprise, we chose US. It was unfortunate for them . . . perhaps on other worlds, they will learn to accept change a bit faster. Forrester Peacemaker Posts: 699 | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged Aloïsius Member Member # 2977 posted December 02, 2001 08:25 PM A young man, wearing red and yellow vestments enter the room. He looks like a novice of some monastic order. His face is human, but he surely has some elven blood. "My name is Hazedil, I'm here to represent the Church of the Morning Lord, Lathander, and his first servant on Toril, the Half-Elf Songe of Zephyr. As some of you may know, he wasn't present on Toril during the 7 years war. And when he returned from his quest, he found his world devasted, and half of his kin exterminated. Great was his anger, greater was his sadness, but even greater was his sense of responsability. He was a servant of the God of Renewal, and knew his duty. He used his powers to resurect some member of his family, some humans, and many elves. So the elves of Toril are no more dead , not all of them. I can't speak for the elves in this trial, however, cause resurecting the old elven leaders (he turn his head in the direction of Queen Amlaruil) and responsables of this failure, especially those who have so badly abused from elven high magic, is not our most urgent task, but, in the name of Lathander, I claim the right for the elves to live in peace and safety on Toril, under the guidance and protection of the Morning Lord. It's look like some factions present here are using menaces to reach their political goals. We won't. Instead, we will propose our help to all of those who are ready to save Toril from the death of the weave, Mystra's very own body. None better than us have mastered the fusion of science and magic for medical purpose." Posts: 345 | From: Montpellier, France | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged zouron Member Member # 3707 posted December 02, 2001 08:34 PM *smirks slight giving his own thoughts to the best to combine science and magic claim, then thinks of what, if anything, he could possibly ue from that to improve his own knowledge* -------------------- Alone is something we all are only far away voices breaks the silence whom wish to escape this labyrinth of loneliness we fumble our way, but finds nothing because here are no walls only the fear's angst keeps us apart Posts: 158 | From: Hvidovre, Denmark | Registered: Apr 2001 | IP: Logged johnbrown Member Member # 3531 posted December 02, 2001 08:40 PM Forrester, The following is all completely out of character. While this and other discussions were happening fast and furious at this point, the subject was brought up a few times. Here is an example of a quote by me (found on the third page of Edena?s re-posting): "Iuz no problem with this arrangement. A formal or informal alliance makes no difference to him.....Iuz does expect Humanoid assistance (no Devils invited) on Oerth when this is over, however." And here is one from you (found further down on the same page): "Meanwhile, I secretly talk with Iuz about a possible invasion of Oerth. Most of the "good" powerful forces apparently have come to Faerun. No doubt that there are humanoid factories starting up in Oerth. And besides, the Toril sun is about to be blotted out anyway. It may be time to leave this accursed world, and start in a new one. NOBODY expected THAT, DID you?! Lord Forrester Considering Getting The Hell Out Of Here" Now recognizing that we are all playing parts then and now, and considering the rate that posts were coming in at that point. I would say that from Iuz?s point of view, a deal had been struck, and he is now looking to you to hold up your end of the bargain. (Man, I forgot how much fun this was ). But Iuz is immortal and very patient. He is willing to wait and discuss it later. As long as it gets discussed and some action he finds satisfactory is taken. -------------------- After all, it is all about having fun ..... Posts: 67 | From: St. Louis, MO, USA | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged Aloïsius Member Member # 2977 posted December 02, 2001 08:56 PM BTW, I personaly wish that we use some more adequate terms, since we are now in the third age of the world (the first being the age of thunder, and the second being ended since the quasi destruction of Toril) we must use the appropriate words . There are scientific proofs that the old denomination of humans, demi-humans and humanoids are erroneous. In fact there are only humanoids, the so-called humans and demi-humans being only subtype of humanoids. ------ 3rd edition only Posts: 345 | From: Montpellier, France | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member Member # 1235 posted December 02, 2001 09:02 PM The female Chosen from Waterdeep steps forward. She is the most beautiful of all the Chosen, this young lady. Her voice is also beautiful, but there is a steely edge in it as she speaks now: - - - We wish to discuss that which you call Forgiveness. Forgiveness, a willingness to set the past aside, and start over with a clean slate. We, the Chosen, would like to advocate that sometimes Forgiveness is expedient. We, the Chosen, would like to advocate that sometimes Forgiveness prevents suffering. We, the Chosen, would like to advocate that sometimes Forgiveness offers hope. We do not advocate that it is the right thing, necessarily, in these cases, merely that it is the expedient thing. We cite as a Case Example: The condemnation of Araunshanee ((pardon the spelling,)) whom you know now as Lolth, and her son Vhaerun by Corellon after the Godswar. Without taking a side on the right or the wrong of Corellon's decision, we wish to discuss it's expediency and the consequences of it. For those of you who are unfamiliar with the events in question: Araunshanee sought dominion of Arvandor for herself. To this end, she betrayed Corellon to Grumsh, nearly succeeding in her quest to kill him. She made alliance with Malar the Beastlord, to further her cause. She aided in the creation of a Host of Evil Gods, aided them in finding Arvandor, and aided them in assaulting Arvandor. Many of the Gods of Arvandor were wounded or killed in the battle, but they were victorious over their enemies. She misdirected Eilistraee's arrow, so that it struck Corellon. Her son, Vhaerun, collaborated with her on many of these acts. When discovered, she assailed Corellon in a final battle. Corellon, upon discovery of her acts, uttered a condemnation of her, pronouncing her Ta'nari Upon his pronounciation, her form changed into the form she now wears today, the form you associate with Lolth. After his pronouciation, her mind altered considerably, and for the worst. Upon his pronouciation, she assailed him, and there was a final battle between the two. Corellon was the victor, but he did not slay her. Corellon banished her to the Abyss. Corellon banished her son, Vhaerun, to the Prime Material Plane. We, the Chosen, believe that Corellon Larethian chose to condemn and to punish, for right or for wrong. We see this in his decision to pronounce her Ta'nari. We, the Chosen, believe that Corellon Larethian did not choose to forgive Araunshanee, at that time. Corellon choose condemnation and punishment, not forgiveness. Now that we have built such a case as we could for the historical facts of this matter, we would like to show the consequences of this refusal to forgive. Araunshanee became Lolth, Demon-Queen of one of the Layers of the Abyss, and the Fiends there became her subjects. Vhaerun proceeded to corrupt the Ilthyrri and those elves who would pay him heed, into violence, decadence, and oppression and enslavement of their fellow elves. Lolth, when her interest returned to the elves, began a long term campaign to lead them into revolt against the Seldarine. Lolth further corrupted the Ilthyrri, seizing control from Vhaerun, and making these elves into mortal foes of all their brethren. Subsequent wars between the ilthyrri and the elves caused mass destruction and death, and led to the Descent of the Drow. The Drow have, since that time, assailed the surface world as they could, bringing wholesale slaughter and destruction upon their surface brethren, and upon the surface population in general. The Drow, under Lolth's influence, assailed the other Races Below, destroying and enslaving many, and causing losses to all. The Humanoid ambassador and the NeoIllithid ambassadors, present now, can testify as to the magnitude of this destruction, slaughter, and enslavement. The tragedy of the Ilthyrri - their corruption by Lolth - is not confined to Toril, but exists on many worlds, and in Wildspace in many Crystal Spheres, and on the Inner and Outer Planes. A vast amount of suffering and destruction has occurred in all of these places because the Drow, under the influence of Lolth, willed it so. We acknowledge the destructive presence of Ghaunadaur and other Dieties of Evil amongst the Drow, and the wreckage caused by their following: that is irrelevant to the point, for this discussion is about Lolth and Vhaerun. Do any amongst this assemblage contest that the drow have not committed mass destruction, mass murder, and mass oppression and enslavement, in the name of Lolth? Do any amonst this assemblage contest that the drow have not committed mass destruction and murder upon all the others of elvenkind? We, the Chosen, would like to argue that Corellon's pronouncement upon Araunshanee and Vhaerun, was not expedient. We, the Chosen, would like to argue that Corellon's refusal to extend forgiveness to Araunshanee and Vhaerun, was not expedient. We, the Chosen, would like to argue that it would have been in the better interests of many, including the Ilthyrri who were to become the Drow, if Corellon had extended forgiveness to Araunshanee and Vhaerun. Our point is that Forgiveness can be expedient, regardless of right or wrong, or any emotional conditions. This point relates to several amongst yourselves. To cite case points: Githyanki versus NeoIllithid and Deep Illithid Humanoid versus Elf Technomancer versus Faerie We concede that forgiveness is not an option to the Fiends, except in isolated cases, and we exclude them from this topic of discussion. However, forgiveness is a major player in this current debate between the emissaries we see before us in this Court. We believe that forgiveness or the lack of forgiveness will play a major role in the future of all gathered, and in the future of Realmspace and many other Crystal Spheres. We, the Chosen, advocate that those of you who have the capacity to forgive, consider it as an option. An option for the sake of expediency. (In the middle of this speech, it was necessary for the drow emissary to be magically held, after she started screaming in fury and tried to attack the Chosen. Following this speech, the Chosen fall silent, awaiting comments, criticisms, critiques, rebukes, and discussion on what has been said.) [ December 02, 2001: Message edited by: Edena_of_Neith ] Posts: 1566 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged johnbrown Member Member # 3531 posted December 02, 2001 09:21 PM Iuz chuckles briefly and looks at the Chosen as if to say ?and?is that it??? -------------------- After all, it is all about having fun ..... Posts: 67 | From: St. Louis, MO, USA | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged Aloïsius Member Member # 2977 posted December 02, 2001 09:22 PM quote: Originally posted by Edena_of_Neith: Forgiveness, a willingness to set the past aside, and start over with a clean slate. We, the Chosen, advocate that those of you who have the capacity to forgive, consider it as an option. An option for the sake of expediency. "Start over a clean slate..." "I can't say nothing but aggree. This the teaching of our Lord" Posts: 345 | From: Montpellier, France | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged Aloïsius Member Member # 2977 posted December 02, 2001 09:25 PM Edena, won't the lone elven survivor join his brethren in North Maztica ? ( I mean, the one coming from realmspace, not the drow...) edited for clarification [ December 02, 2001: Message edited by: Aloïsius ] Posts: 345 | From: Montpellier, France | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged Forrester Member Member # 2760 posted December 02, 2001 09:25 PM Forrester starts to yawn as the Chosen babble on about the insignificant history of elvish infighting, then catches himself, grins, and shrugs slightly as two or three of the assemblage shake their heads in disdain. We are at an advantage, compared to the Gith/Illithid and the Fae/Technomancy, for most of whom we should "forgive" are, well, somewhat beyond forgiveness at this point. I wish to hear from the Queen and the other elves before I comment further on the matter. But based on the comments of the drow, and of the Druid, I am not expecting much . . . And Iuz . . . yes, I remember now. We were going to deal, but then the devils insisted that we make no formal arrangements to gain your help on this world. And so, little help was given on your part -- at best, you restrained some demons from interfering with our plans. I hardly think you would have to restrain them much, for to pit themselves against US would mean that they would be allying themselves with the elves, and all things Fae! We do not find ourselves indebted to you, Iuz, but that is not to say that we cannot come to some arrangement in the future. Let us see what happens in this conference, and then we shall talk . . . for I know you admire the outcome of our war in Toril, do you not? Forrester Peacemaker [ December 02, 2001: Message edited by: Forrester ] Posts: 699 | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member Member # 1235 posted December 02, 2001 09:30 PM Aloisius, no. He is here, though, to speak for the one-time Elven Alliance (or the tiny remnant thereof.) The elves of Northern Maztica finally do send a representative, at this point. Aloisius, if you would like to speak for the Elven Alliance or the Elves of Northern Maztica, please feel free to do so! (Where is Colonel Hardisson when you need him? Or Upper Krust? Or even Col_Pladoh? They could make very good arguments for the side they choose to take ...) Posts: 1566 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member Member # 1235 posted December 02, 2001 09:33 PM Someone else must speak for the spirit of Queen Amlaruil. It is not my place. There were several elven players in the old IR thread who could speak for her. [ December 02, 2001: Message edited by: Edena_of_Neith ] Posts: 1566 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged Aloïsius Member Member # 2977 posted December 02, 2001 09:33 PM quote: Originally posted by Forrester:]Forrester starts to yawn as the Chosen babble on about the insignificant history of elvish infighting, then catches himself, grins, and shrugs slightly as two or three of the assemblage shake their heads in disdain. We are at an advantage, compared to the Gith/Illithid and the Fae/Technomancy, for most of whom we should "forgive" are, well, somewhat beyond forgiveness at this point. No... quote: I wish to hear from the Queen and the other elves before I comment further on the matter. But based on the comments of the drow, and of the Druid, I am not expecting much . . . As I said, I can't speak for the old, and dead, elven leaders, but, in the name of the survivors living under Lathander guidance, I can say that the Elves of Toril are ready to forgive. Posts: 345 | From: Montpellier, France | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged Rhialto the Marvellous Member Member # 4171 posted December 02, 2001 09:34 PM quote: Originally posted by Forrester: In the last 40 years, I have been condemned by many an ignorant man. What of it? He would probably like to blame me for the fact that his breeches are riding up on him. The elves were willing to bring an end to life on Toril, just as we Humanoids had an opportunity to rise out of our situation. If we did not step in and help the Technomancy, they, and we, would certainly have perished. And at the end of the War, if we did not wipe out the elves (thus weakening the Weave, and preventing the Illithid from blotting out the Sun), we would have had to direct all of our forces against the Deep Illithid -- upon which time the elves would have struck at us and eliminated us forever. Or, we would have failed, and the Illithid would have successful. Not an option. It was us, or them. There was no in-between. Surprise surprise, we chose US. It was unfortunate for them . . . perhaps on other worlds, they will learn to accept change a bit faster. Forrester Peacemaker Rhialto stares at Forrester with something akin to amused pity. I believe we all know whose breeches are riding up here, my friend. But to return to my queries...yes, you did manage to stop the illithids in their plot to blot out the sun. However, this was an almost incidental side-effect to your slaughter, and one that was completely unknown to you. In fact, by your own admission, you ignored a present, definite threat to stop a possible, indefinite one. The fact that you almost accidentally solved the problem does not solve this--you both knowingly, and unknowningly endangered the world to chase after your vendetta. I'm afraid you're only making a greater case against yourself, emissary. In addition, you have failed to provide an answer for the questions I have raised. You bear perhaps the largest portion of blame for the deaths of millions upon millions. Yet you continue to snicker smugly, and assert that it was all the other guy's fault. You're not convincing me of that, and I do not think you are convincing your judges, either. You may continue with your present course of argument, if you like, but I do not think it will profit you in the long run. With that, Rhialto turns away--then pauses as if remembering something. He glances at Iuz the Old, and then walks towards the pit fiend. Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but by the terms of your contract, the Humanoids were supposed to forswear demon allies. Now, Iuz is, to my knowledge, a demon, and it is revealed, has an outstanding alliance with the Humanoid nation. Does this violate your contract? And how will you respond if it does? Posts: 122 | Registered: Apr 2001 | IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member Member # 1235 posted December 02, 2001 09:40 PM The Chosen appear very surprised, then very pleased, to hear the Elven Alliance emissary state the elves will forgive. However, they then turn to the shade of Queen Amlaruil, and see that she is silent. The emissary of the elves from Northern Maztica is also silent. The Chosen return to their stony silence, listening to all that is said. Posts: 1566 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged johnbrown Member Member # 3531 posted December 02, 2001 09:40 PM I will agree. You have done well for yourselves. And perhaps, we can come to a mutually beneficial agreement. But I suspect that the Chosen have something more to say?and if it evolves any of the things I thinking of, you might end up more indebted to me than you think. It has been my experience that when quasi-deities such as themselves become involved, the other shoe almost always drops. -------------------- After all, it is all about having fun ..... Posts: 67 | From: St. Louis, MO, USA | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged Aloïsius Member Member # 2977 posted December 02, 2001 09:41 PM quote: Originally posted by Edena_of_Neith: Aloisius, no. He is here, though, to speak for the one-time Elven Alliance (or the tiny remnant thereof.) The elves of Northern Maztica finally do send a representative, at this point. Aloisius, if you would like to speak for the Elven Alliance or the Elves of Northern Maztica, please feel free to do so! (Where is Colonel Hardisson when you need him? Or Upper Krust? Or even Col_Pladoh? They could make very good arguments for the side they choose to take ...) I fear I missed some (big) parts in the old thread... If the elves of Northern Maztica are not the the few resurected by Songe (I choose Northern Maztica as their hiding place remember) then I don't know who they are ? With just a little more information, I can speak in their name. (and edit the above post) Posts: 345 | From: Montpellier, France | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged[/i] [/QUOTE]

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