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<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 1304740" data-attributes="member: 2020"><p><strong>(Post 18) The Second IR</strong></p><p></p><p>Aloïsius </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 2977 </p><p> posted December 04, 2001 06:08 PM </p><p></p><p> OoC</p><p> We need Edena's ruling on the planar structure of Toril : In FR 2e, it was the same as Greyhawk, with</p><p> the great wheel and sigil. In FR 3e, (and in 3e in general) each world can have its own cosmology, the</p><p> various cosmology being linked by the plane of shadow; and FR has its own set of plane, structured in</p><p> a Tree shape. The relative power of the Sigilian emissary and the Netherese Shades depends of this.</p><p> In one case, the Lady of Pain control the passage via the various gate, while in the second, the</p><p> Shades (and their ennemies, the Malaugrym) will have a spectacular power. Of course, Spelljaming is</p><p> another possibility. </p><p></p><p> Posts: 345 | From: Montpellier, France | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Semirhage </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 8099 </p><p> posted December 04, 2001 06:18 PM </p><p></p><p> Valkys sighs as he addresses the Eladrin once more, "Thank you, my stomach is settling already.</p><p></p><p> You can't rule over the mortals. You can't force them into a settlement. You can't make their decisions</p><p> for them. If they want to blow themselves up, then they will eventually, no matter how often you</p><p> intervene." </p><p></p><p> Posts: 31 | Registered: Oct 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Rhialto the</p><p> Marvellous </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 4171 </p><p> posted December 04, 2001 06:19 PM </p><p></p><p></p><p> quote:</p><p></p><p> Originally posted by Aloïsius:</p><p></p><p> Hazedil smiles</p><p> "The few remaining elves-I means those from Toril, not the exhile from Mystara- are</p><p> under the protection of Lathander's Church. And the majority of Lathander followers</p><p> reside in the human lands of the Technocracy. An agression against Lathanderite</p><p> owned flying cities will imply an attack on Technocratic citizen..."</p><p></p><p></p><p> Rhialto sighs.</p><p></p><p> And do you actually think that religion will compel the Technomancy to your aid? It didn't the last</p><p> time...</p><p></p><p> [ December 04, 2001: Message edited by: Rhialto the Marvellous ]</p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 122 | Registered: Apr 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Riot Gear </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 202 </p><p> posted December 04, 2001 06:33 PM </p><p></p><p> BTW, another thing for the (very overworked, no doubt) Edena of Neith:</p><p></p><p> What's everyone's current tech level and civilization like?</p><p></p><p> --------------------</p><p></p><p> -------</p><p></p><p> I love maces, I really do. That crunch noise is just SO satisfying, and the flying shards of bloody bone</p><p> - Well, that's just icing on the cake. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 1574 | Registered: Dec 2000 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Forrester </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 2760 </p><p> posted December 04, 2001 06:48 PM </p><p></p><p> [OOC]</p><p></p><p> Another question for Edena:</p><p></p><p> What does the population of Toril look like? What are the approximate numbers of humans, dwarves,</p><p> Technomancy members, elves, and humanoids?</p><p></p><p> --------------------</p><p></p><p> Today's helpful LMTC Rule:</p><p></p><p> Sit at a table by yourself. We occasionally allow students to work together for a short time, but you</p><p> must ask first. The LMTC is a quiet study area, not a socializing area.</p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 699 | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Aloïsius </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 2977 </p><p> posted December 04, 2001 06:51 PM </p><p></p><p></p><p> quote:</p><p></p><p> Originally posted by Rhialto the Marvellous:</p><p></p><p> Rhialto sighs.</p><p></p><p> And do you actually think that religion will compel the Technomancy to your aid? It</p><p> didn't the last time...</p><p></p><p> [ December 04, 2001: Message edited by: Rhialto the Marvellous ]</p><p></p><p></p><p> I don't think to aid...I think to self-defense :</p><p> I do not represent the elves here, I represent the Church of Lathander, of wich only a tiny part is</p><p> elven. The greatest part of our follower are humans, and most of them are technocracy's citizen. We</p><p> are now structured as transnational, even a transracial, group. We hold great political power inside all</p><p> faerunian human nations, and Lathander is now the key figure of the faerunian pantheon (plus an</p><p> interloper in the elven one), thanks to His role in the rebuilding. We are still opposed by various evil</p><p> cult, but they are divided, while most forces of Good are united behind the Morning Lord. This move</p><p> was planed before the event of the seven years war, and it's not a coincidence if Mystra and Eldath</p><p> (IRC) shifted from Law or Neutrality to Good. The disaster of the last war simply allowed our Lord to</p><p> accomplish his goal, more than 5 century after a first try (OoC : the Dawn Disaster). </p><p> Anyway...we have took great care of our protégés. Don't fear for them more than for anybody else </p><p></p><p> Posts: 345 | From: Montpellier, France | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 1235 </p><p> posted December 04, 2001 07:20 PM </p><p></p><p> A few rulings:</p><p></p><p></p><p> First of all, all the Chosen rise from their seats upon the arrival of Ao.</p><p> All the Chosen kneel, in homage and humility, to the Creator.</p><p> After a not inconsiderable length of time, they resume their seats.</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> Because of the arrival of Ao, the slaadi attempt to whelm Realmspace in chaos does not happen.</p><p> FOR THE MOMENT.</p><p> It is temporarily held back, until the end of the conference, and only until then.</p><p> Unless the slaadi themselves decide to dispel it before the end of the conference.</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> You may assume that ALL the Gods and Goddess of Realmspace, are witnessing the events in the</p><p> Court, at this point.</p><p> The Gods of the various Pantheons have all sent Avatars to witness the proceedings.</p><p></p><p> Ao, Iuz, the Dark Eight, the Slaadi Lord, and the Chosen of Mystra are aware of this, but to everyone</p><p> else the assembled Watchers are invisible.</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> Sigil is quite capable of closing all of the Gates from and to Sigil and Realmspace.</p><p> And yes, Sigian and Sharn mages, working together, can seal the Crystal Sphere (and the City of</p><p> Shade can then unseal it ...)</p><p> However, Sigil cannot otherwise cut off planar travel from Realmspace, via the ethereal, astral,</p><p> elemental, inner, or outer planes.</p><p></p><p> Perhaps the Lady of Pain could indeed do this thing, but it is beyond her jurisdiction.</p><p> The Lady of Pain is Neutral Incarnate, and she has absolute power over Sigil, but she would not</p><p> interfere in another plane directly.</p><p></p><p> The Sigilian mages and the Sharn are welcome to attempt to weave spells that would ban all planar</p><p> travel from Realmspace.</p><p> They could probably succeed if they really tried and worked together, and then what the Sigilian and</p><p> Sharn ambassadors are trying to accomplish WOULD BE accomplished.</p><p></p><p> That, of course, would be considered an act of war by most of the delegates present: an active effort</p><p> to alter the Weave so that Planar Travel is not possible, but it is UP TO THE SIGILIAN/SHARN</p><p> AMBASSADOR, what the Sigilian mages and sharn do.</p><p></p><p> Now, if the Sigilians and the sharn could talk other powers (such as the phaerimm and the City of</p><p> Shade) into helping them, it would be quite easy to ban all planar travel, and maintain that ban,</p><p> although it would probably still mean war (that would be up to the rest of you.)</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> There is general terror and awe as Ao shows up, and for many long moments there is utter silence,</p><p> which is then literally shattered by the kender.</p><p> The kender, who is getting to meet the CREATOR of Realmspace!!!!</p><p> What greater possible, greater grander thing could possibly happen to a lucky kender, than to get to</p><p> meet the Creator and talk with him????</p><p></p><p> Of course, the kender starts (literally) babbling questions and comments, as fast as his mouth will</p><p> allow, and he talks until he runs out of breath and turns blue in the face.</p><p> Remembering finally to breathe, he takes in a huge breathe, and starts anew ...</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> Because Forrester has NOT replied yet to this Thread, the shade of Queen Amlaruil continues to watch</p><p> him, waiting for a reply.</p><p> Bound by special constraints, being undead, the shade of Amlaruil will not budge from her demand</p><p> that the Humanoids agree to make true peace with her people.</p><p> She cannot - the Chosen realize this, and they inform the assembled delegates.</p><p></p><p> Unless Forrester agrees to all of her terms, she is bound to certain actions, and these actions may or</p><p> may not lead to war.</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> The phaerimm ambassador, already angry, floats up, and utters a long speech in it's own language -</p><p> it's so angry it doesn't even attempt to telepathically communicate the speech to anyone (they would</p><p> automatically understand telepathy), so one of it's beholder servants translates for it:</p><p></p><p> The phaerimm are NATIVE to Toril.</p><p> Toril is our home, truly.</p><p></p><p> We are the phaerimm.</p><p> We have transcended hunger.</p><p> We have transcended disease.</p><p> We have transcended famine.</p><p> WE have transcended the limitations of nature.</p><p> WE HAVE transcended the limitations of reality.</p><p> WE HAVE TRANSCENDED the limitations of magic.</p><p> WE HAVE TRANSCENDED the limitations of space-time.</p><p> WE HAVE TRANSCENDED THE LIMITATIONS of our OWN NATURE, and live TOGETHER in HARMONY.</p><p> WE HAVE TRANSCENDED THE LIMITATIONS OF MORTALITY ITSELF.</p><p></p><p> Under our rule, there would be PEACE upon this world.</p><p> Under our rule, the study of the GREATEST OF ALL BEAUTY, MAGIC, would continue unfettered.</p><p> Under our rule, the study of science would continue unfettered.</p><p> Under our rule, INTELLIGENCE AND CREATIVITY would rule Realmspace.</p><p> Under our rule, Toril would be TRULY protected from Extraplanar Threats, such as those currently</p><p> PRESENT, and they would not come into our Courts and make threats against you.</p><p></p><p> The human, demi-human, and humanoid races would be restricted, and kept under careful</p><p> supervision, but they would be allowed to continue to exist within their own societies, and they would</p><p> even be allowed to continue to research magic and science - but they would do so on our terms.</p><p> Our terms would not allow them to create tools and magics as they have done, threatening destruction</p><p> of our entire Crystal Sphere, because they lack the insight and wisdom to properly handle their</p><p> discoveries.</p><p></p><p> The more advanced races, such as the Faerie, the githyanki, the Dragons, and the others, would be</p><p> allowed freedom to create their own societies, and function as their nature dictates.</p><p> They would be restrained from making war, and they would answer to us, the phaerimm, for all that</p><p> they did, but we would grant them reasonable freedom.</p><p> They are competent enough to handle freedom and responsibility, so we would allow them such.</p><p></p><p> We even recognize the Chosen of Mystra, and we would not interfere in their works.</p><p></p><p> But what you are proposing is, literally, insane.</p><p> Would your human race, allow the cows in your fields to rule you? Would you? WOULD YOU?</p><p> Would you allow squirrels and rabbits to rule from the thrones of your cities?</p><p> Would you allow your chickens and your goats to issue edicts from your chambers of state?</p><p></p><p> But that is PRECISELY what you are demanding that WE, the phaerimm, do.</p><p></p><p> Ok ... enough ... (the phaerimm tries to restrain itself, and as it's anger cools, it resumes telepathic</p><p> communication that can be understood by all)</p><p></p><p> We do not seek the destruction of Toril or Realmspace anymore than your Technocracy does.</p><p> In SPITE of what you have been told about us, the Phaerimm CHERISH Toril, we APPRECIATE the</p><p> beauty and wonder that is Toril and it's Weave, and we are willing to fight very hard to save that</p><p> beauty.</p><p></p><p> Therefore, we the Phaerimm offer a compromise.</p><p></p><p> We offer to be your instructors and teachers.</p><p></p><p> We shall travel freely amongst your Technocracy, and all the other nations of Realmspace.</p><p> We shall NOT be subject to your laws.</p><p> We shall not be answerable to you in any way.</p><p> We shall live where we wish, and do as we please.</p><p></p><p> However, we will TOLERATE living amongst you.</p><p> We will not harm you.</p><p> We will, to the best of our ability, seek to avoid causing events that your societies view as</p><p> troublesome.</p><p></p><p> We will even go so far as to protect you.</p><p> We will advise your rulers on extraplanar threats and otherworld threats.</p><p> We will advise your rulers on magic and it's perils - AND THAT IS A BIG OFFER, FOR WE DO NOT</p><p> NORMALLY TEACH OUR MAGIC TO ANYONE, AND OUR MAGIC IS A THOUSAND YEARS AHEAD OF YOURS.</p><p> We will give the best advise to your rulers on what we believe is the course towards security and peace.</p><p></p><p> We will, of course, have a representative to your government present at all times, and we reserve the</p><p> right to know all that is transpiring - you do not have the right to keep secrets from us, especially when</p><p> we are helping you.</p><p></p><p> Now, I have gone farther than any phaerimm would have ever dreamed of going, in this offer of</p><p> compromise.</p><p> I do this because we love Toril and we seek it's preservation, and we will make this EXTREME sacrifice</p><p> for it.</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> The dwarven ambassador announces that he will accept the terms of the shade of Queen Amlaruil.</p><p> The Maztican delegate and the Tuigan delegate follow suit, and the newly arrived delegates from the</p><p> continent of Kara-Tur also agree.</p><p> The phaerimm ambassador states it will agree to Amlaruil's terms if everyone agrees to IT'S terms.</p><p> The kender is too busy asking Ao questions to answer Amlaruil, but it is obvious to everyone how he</p><p> would answer.</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> The halfling ambassador, after recovering from his awe and terror of Ao, and the others, states:</p><p></p><p> I heartily agree.</p><p> This is a Realmspace debate.</p><p> The Outsiders from Limbo and Sigil have no part in this.</p><p> They were not involved in the first war, and they should not be involved now.</p><p></p><p> Just who do you think you are, busting in on this Court and uttering your edicts and your threats</p><p> against us?</p><p> We are the people of Toril, and we are not answerable to you!</p><p> We can take care of our problems very well without your interference, thank you.</p><p></p><p> If you don't like our problems, then get your butts out of this Court and go back to your own Realms!</p><p></p><p> I propose the following:</p><p></p><p> The halflings would join the Technocracy.</p><p> Then, the Phaerimm, the Technocracy, Hope Isle, the NeoIllithid, the Githyanki, the Dwarves, the</p><p> Gnomes, Zouron's Magocracy, and the Fiends if we must, assemble into a United Alliance.</p><p> We then proceed to utterly destroy the elves, both those of Maztica and those in their Fleet of</p><p> Vengeance, and we destroy the Humanoids, both those in the Humanoid Alliance and the Scro and</p><p> their Gith allies in Realmspace.</p><p></p><p> If you believe this is unreasonable, consider that Forrester, the representative of the Humanoids, has</p><p> not made ONE ANSWER to the shade of the Queen yonder.</p><p> And when he does, IF he does, we ALL know what his response will be: You elves are unreasonable,</p><p> you elves must pay, you elves are bad, etc.</p><p></p><p> And we ALL know what the shade of the Queen will do: she'll sadly (the halfling smirks) bow her head,</p><p> announce that it's all the Humanoid's fault, and go back to her undead sleep, and thus leave the rest</p><p> of us to fry in the war HER kind are preparing to bring upon us.</p><p> And I agree with Forrester - incredible! - that the Queen and her undead minions could IN NO WAY</p><p> control the Fleets of Vengeance!</p><p> Is she really trying to tell me that she and a few shades can talk a hundred thousand vengeful elves</p><p> with the largest elven Armada in history into backing off from a war they have spent 40 YEARS</p><p> assembling for?</p><p> Does she - literally - insult our intelligence by suggestion that she and her shades can TALK these</p><p> elves into FORGIVING the humanoids???</p><p> If she had a hundred thousand Helms of Opposition, THAT might do the trick, but words are cheap,</p><p> and actions count.</p><p></p><p> There is no way the elves and humanoids can coexist in peace.</p><p> I cite Forrester's silence as proof.</p><p> I cite the Scro's ambassador's silence as proof.</p><p> I cite Queen Amlaruil's blatant blackmail as proof.</p><p> I have heard one elf say he would forgive - I concede there are exceptions to every rule, but they ARE</p><p> exceptions, and not the rule.</p><p></p><p> The elves and the humanoids will start fighting again, and that will pull us all in, and then - in the</p><p> words of AO HIMSELF, our world will be Unmade.</p><p></p><p> (he almost cracks up in anger)</p><p></p><p> You call me a fool?</p><p> You tell me to shut up?</p><p> Well, YOU LISTEN HERE!</p><p></p><p> Unless you idiots can somehow talk the elves and the humanoids into agreeing to a REAL peace, this</p><p> planet and all of our hides are fried.</p><p> And I'm not exactly seeing the elves and the humanoids trying to make a real peace - they aren't</p><p> even close, they aren't even really trying!</p><p> I'm sick of their nonsense, and I'm sick of them.</p><p></p><p> (He points an accusing finger at Forrester and Queen Amlaruil, and his voice drips with hatred, anger,</p><p> and venom)</p><p></p><p> They started the war that nearly destroyed our world, THEY committed most of the destruction, and</p><p> THEY are the ones who should pay the price.</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> The Scro ambassador, now infuriated, replies to the halfling (since nobody has yet agreed to play him,</p><p> and Gruffmug is absent):</p><p></p><p> You little rat.</p><p> If you were not within the protection of this chamber, we would throw a Lifeproof on you, so that you</p><p> could never die, and then we would place you over a hot fire.</p><p> And enjoy your screams for the next couple of millenia.</p><p></p><p> We were assailed, without provocation or cause, by the elven Fleets in the First Inhuman War, and our</p><p> people were massacred.</p><p> Do you remember how we were exiled to the planet Winter by the elves?</p><p> And then, how they activated the Witchlight on that world, and killed the entire interned population?</p><p></p><p> Those few of us that survived hid, and we slowly rebuilt our strength, and our fleets, for a just</p><p> vengeance.</p><p> We took that vengeance on the Elven Imperial Navy of Realmspace, and it was a just action. </p><p> It was justice.</p><p> Justice for the millions of our people the elves massacred.</p><p></p><p> We did NOT start the war.</p><p> The elves started the war - everyone in this chamber, including the ELVES, have stated this is the case.</p><p> When our humanoid friends on Toril requested our help, we moved to aid an ally; it was a perfectly</p><p> reasonable act on our part, to come to the aid of a friend.</p><p></p><p> We did not cause the Month of Terror, although we SUFFERED enough from it - thousands of our</p><p> people died in Wildspace.</p><p> The elves caused the Month of Terror.</p><p> We did not cause the Cataclysm, the elves did.</p><p></p><p> If you must select a race as a scapegoat, it is totally unfair to point the finger at us.</p><p></p><p> Why don't you point your little grubby halfling fingers at the real criminals here, the elves?</p><p></p><p> If we all agreed to exterminate the elves, I think we could have peace.</p><p></p><p> I am considering Reprisal's offer of a Technocracy and World Forum, and we will consider it.</p><p> However, such a Technocracy and World Forum cannot exist when the GREATEST ELVEN ARMADA IN</p><p> HISTORY is about to descend on us, seeking our extermination.</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> The githyanki ambassador speaks, and she says:</p><p></p><p> I resent the insult to our Queen; the implication that her Lichdom somehow makes her a lesser being,</p><p> and I think the ambassador owes us an apology.</p><p> The githyanki concede the gravity of the situation, and we agree with the Chosen that expedience is</p><p> the best answer.</p><p></p><p> I must answer to the Queen, but I believe our colony in Realmspace can at the least ally with the</p><p> Technocracy, and we can send a representative to your World Court.</p><p></p><p> We do not wish hostilities with any of the races of Toril, although we are justifiably wary of the</p><p> NeoIllithid, and we know the Deep Illithid are our enemies - indeed, their ambassador arrived,</p><p> threatened you all, then disappeared!</p><p> We DO reserve the right to the territories we have gained on Luna, and those bases we have</p><p> established on Selune, and on Toril itself, as well as other planets.</p><p> However, we agree that there is security and strength in collective peace, and we offer our alliance to</p><p> the Technocracy and it's allies.</p><p> We will exist as an independent nation, but we will be your allies, and the Knights of the Githyanki will</p><p> (she smiles) battle alongside you, and they shall show your enemies just how a sword should be</p><p> wielded!</p><p></p><p> Because we wish peace, we agree to the terms of Queen Amlaruil, although we resent this coercion.</p><p> We do resent the coercion, but we must agree to it; we have no choice.</p><p> We do not wish two great spelljamming Armadas using Luna as an archer's target shield. (she glares</p><p> at the scro ambassador and at the shade of the Queen.) </p><p></p><p> Posts: 1566 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> TheBalor </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 3669 </p><p> posted December 04, 2001 07:46 PM </p><p></p><p> Honored Queen, this blackmail is not necessary for the negotiations for the survival of our race with</p><p> the more aggressive members of this assembly. I'm sure that if you called off the invasion fleet</p><p> (hopefully this is something you can do) with absolutely no terms except that past hatreds be laid</p><p> aside and that this conference go on without us biting each other's heads off, then I am certain that it</p><p> is possible for us to gain at least not being hunted down and killed by the Scro and Humanoids. And</p><p> Forrester, with all due respect, you repaid whatever debt we owed your kind back in the war. We</p><p> reduced you to nothing but savages in caves, you reduced us to nothing.</p><p></p><p> --------------------</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p> Persecution. Betrayal. Hatred. These things don't change. -The Maestro</p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 244 | Registered: Apr 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> DocMoriartty </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 8593 </p><p> posted December 04, 2001 07:49 PM </p><p></p><p> Moriartty rises slowly and bows lighty but solemnly to the God of Gods.</p><p></p><p> "I think there has been a misunderstanding here. My clients make no threats through me. They place</p><p> no demands through me. My clients who are the Sharn and Sigil are making a statement quite</p><p> simply."</p><p></p><p> He looks around the room at and stares for a moment at each person who holds the power to destroy</p><p> Toril. </p><p></p><p> "That statement is quite simple. The Sharn and Sigil have worked together quietly for several years</p><p> now to create the necessary power to close Toril off from any sort of travel. This is via Spelljamming,</p><p> Etheral travel, Astral Travel, or any other method. Yes our power is not omnipotent and given time</p><p> many of you could break those seals. Those seals though would last at least a couple days against</p><p> even your combined effort. That is all the time the time we are looking for."</p><p></p><p> Moriartty pauses and waits for a reaction. When none comes he speaks further.</p><p></p><p> "Why you are wondering? Simple, my clients will only seal Toril IF any side or faction attempts a mass</p><p> migration OR launches an attack that will cause the armageddon. We know your powers, we know how</p><p> long Toril will last if any one of you lauch your doomsday weapons. My clients will only have to hold the</p><p> barrier up for a day or two to guaruntee that no one from Toril will escape armageddon and all of you</p><p> will die."</p><p></p><p> "My clients do not threaten to do this out of anger or bitterness. They do this out of self preservation.</p><p> My clients want to make sure that if madness truly takes hold in Toril on a planetary scale that it dies</p><p> on Toril. If peace is found here then my clients will put their spells away and leave things as they</p><p> always are. If that peace last a couple generations my clients may even destroy the spells and</p><p> artifacts they possess that will aid them in doing this as a sign that they accept what you have</p><p> become."</p><p></p><p> "Remember this though. There is no threat made here by my clients. There is only a statement of</p><p> intent contingent upon all of YOUR actions."</p><p></p><p> "Furthermore if the gnomes decide to join the Technocracy then I personally Moriartty Belros of Sigil</p><p> would like to immediatly take the gnomes to court and have any and all gnomes directly related to the</p><p> death of my son put on trial for mass murder with a sentance of DEATH if found guilty. We shall see if</p><p> your Confederation is going to be as just as you suggest it to be."</p><p></p><p> As Moriartty finishes speaking he walks back and sits down. At the same time the four Sharn floating</p><p> around him move forward though none of them approach within 100 feet of the phaerimm. Suddenly</p><p> and without notice all 4 Sharn start putting their hands and mouths through dimensional gaps at a</p><p> rapid pace. The gaps open up all around the phaerimm that just finished speaking and in a matter of</p><p> seconds over 100 hands and jaws snap the air just inches from its body. A moment after this happens</p><p> a strange hmming can be heard.</p><p></p><p> "We are the Sharn. We are not animals and some of you would be good to remember the last time we</p><p> put you in your place. Threats and statements of superiority mean nothing when stated in the face of</p><p> foes like us that could wipe you down this easily while not even being in the same room as you. If you</p><p> long for your walled captivity again then continue on your course. Otherwise hold your arrogant tongue</p><p> and understand that you here among those that are your equals and those that are your superiors."</p><p></p><p> The 4 Sharn float back to their place and everyone can see a small smile on the face of Moriartty as</p><p> he reads through some of the paperwork on his desk.</p><p></p><p> quote:</p><p></p><p> Originally posted by Edena_of_Neith:</p><p> A few rulings:</p><p></p><p> Sigil is quite capable of closing all of the Gates from and to Sigil and Realmspace.</p><p> And yes, Sigian and Sharn mages, working together, can seal the Crystal Sphere (and</p><p> the City of Shade can then unseal it ...)</p><p> However, Sigil cannot otherwise cut off planar travel from Realmspace, via the</p><p> ethereal, astral, elemental, inner, or outer planes.</p><p></p><p> Perhaps the Lady of Pain could indeed do this thing, but it is beyond her jurisdiction.</p><p> The Lady of Pain is Neutral Incarnate, and she has absolute power over Sigil, but she</p><p> would not interfere in another plane directly.</p><p></p><p> The Sigilian mages and the Sharn are welcome to attempt to weave spells that would</p><p> ban all planar travel from Realmspace.</p><p> They could probably succeed if they really tried and worked together, and then what</p><p> the Sigilian and Sharn ambassadors are trying to accomplish WOULD BE accomplished.</p><p></p><p> That, of course, would be considered an act of war by most of the delegates present: an</p><p> active effort to alter the Weave so that Planar Travel is not possible, but it is UP TO THE</p><p> SIGILIAN/SHARN AMBASSADOR, what the Sigilian mages and sharn do.</p><p></p><p> Now, if the Sigilians and the sharn could talk other powers (such as the phaerimm and</p><p> the City of Shade) into helping them, it would be quite easy to ban all planar travel, and</p><p> maintain that ban, although it would probably still mean war (that would be up to the</p><p> rest of you.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 135 | From: Chicago burbs | Registered: Nov 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> johnbrown </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 3531 </p><p> posted December 04, 2001 08:09 PM </p><p></p><p> After the halfling delegate finishes his speech, Iuz once again raps his staff aginst the stone floor in</p><p> applause,</p><p></p><p> "Here, here, sir, again your race shows a desire to survive. If you want to keep living you must take</p><p> the lives of others before they can take yours. I have never put much stock in your race. Perhaps this</p><p> has been an oversight on my part?"</p><p></p><p> [ December 04, 2001: Message edited by: johnbrown ]</p><p></p><p> --------------------</p><p></p><p> After all, it is all about having fun .....</p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 67 | From: St. Louis, MO, USA | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged[/OOC]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 1304740, member: 2020"] [b](Post 18) The Second IR[/b] Aloïsius Member Member # 2977 posted December 04, 2001 06:08 PM OoC We need Edena's ruling on the planar structure of Toril : In FR 2e, it was the same as Greyhawk, with the great wheel and sigil. In FR 3e, (and in 3e in general) each world can have its own cosmology, the various cosmology being linked by the plane of shadow; and FR has its own set of plane, structured in a Tree shape. The relative power of the Sigilian emissary and the Netherese Shades depends of this. In one case, the Lady of Pain control the passage via the various gate, while in the second, the Shades (and their ennemies, the Malaugrym) will have a spectacular power. Of course, Spelljaming is another possibility. Posts: 345 | From: Montpellier, France | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged Semirhage Member Member # 8099 posted December 04, 2001 06:18 PM Valkys sighs as he addresses the Eladrin once more, "Thank you, my stomach is settling already. You can't rule over the mortals. You can't force them into a settlement. You can't make their decisions for them. If they want to blow themselves up, then they will eventually, no matter how often you intervene." Posts: 31 | Registered: Oct 2001 | IP: Logged Rhialto the Marvellous Member Member # 4171 posted December 04, 2001 06:19 PM quote: Originally posted by Aloïsius: Hazedil smiles "The few remaining elves-I means those from Toril, not the exhile from Mystara- are under the protection of Lathander's Church. And the majority of Lathander followers reside in the human lands of the Technocracy. An agression against Lathanderite owned flying cities will imply an attack on Technocratic citizen..." Rhialto sighs. And do you actually think that religion will compel the Technomancy to your aid? It didn't the last time... [ December 04, 2001: Message edited by: Rhialto the Marvellous ] Posts: 122 | Registered: Apr 2001 | IP: Logged Riot Gear Member Member # 202 posted December 04, 2001 06:33 PM BTW, another thing for the (very overworked, no doubt) Edena of Neith: What's everyone's current tech level and civilization like? -------------------- ------- I love maces, I really do. That crunch noise is just SO satisfying, and the flying shards of bloody bone - Well, that's just icing on the cake. :D Posts: 1574 | Registered: Dec 2000 | IP: Logged Forrester Member Member # 2760 posted December 04, 2001 06:48 PM [OOC] Another question for Edena: What does the population of Toril look like? What are the approximate numbers of humans, dwarves, Technomancy members, elves, and humanoids? -------------------- Today's helpful LMTC Rule: Sit at a table by yourself. We occasionally allow students to work together for a short time, but you must ask first. The LMTC is a quiet study area, not a socializing area. Posts: 699 | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged Aloïsius Member Member # 2977 posted December 04, 2001 06:51 PM quote: Originally posted by Rhialto the Marvellous: Rhialto sighs. And do you actually think that religion will compel the Technomancy to your aid? It didn't the last time... [ December 04, 2001: Message edited by: Rhialto the Marvellous ] I don't think to aid...I think to self-defense : I do not represent the elves here, I represent the Church of Lathander, of wich only a tiny part is elven. The greatest part of our follower are humans, and most of them are technocracy's citizen. We are now structured as transnational, even a transracial, group. We hold great political power inside all faerunian human nations, and Lathander is now the key figure of the faerunian pantheon (plus an interloper in the elven one), thanks to His role in the rebuilding. We are still opposed by various evil cult, but they are divided, while most forces of Good are united behind the Morning Lord. This move was planed before the event of the seven years war, and it's not a coincidence if Mystra and Eldath (IRC) shifted from Law or Neutrality to Good. The disaster of the last war simply allowed our Lord to accomplish his goal, more than 5 century after a first try (OoC : the Dawn Disaster). Anyway...we have took great care of our protégés. Don't fear for them more than for anybody else Posts: 345 | From: Montpellier, France | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member Member # 1235 posted December 04, 2001 07:20 PM A few rulings: First of all, all the Chosen rise from their seats upon the arrival of Ao. All the Chosen kneel, in homage and humility, to the Creator. After a not inconsiderable length of time, they resume their seats. - - - Because of the arrival of Ao, the slaadi attempt to whelm Realmspace in chaos does not happen. FOR THE MOMENT. It is temporarily held back, until the end of the conference, and only until then. Unless the slaadi themselves decide to dispel it before the end of the conference. - - - You may assume that ALL the Gods and Goddess of Realmspace, are witnessing the events in the Court, at this point. The Gods of the various Pantheons have all sent Avatars to witness the proceedings. Ao, Iuz, the Dark Eight, the Slaadi Lord, and the Chosen of Mystra are aware of this, but to everyone else the assembled Watchers are invisible. - - - Sigil is quite capable of closing all of the Gates from and to Sigil and Realmspace. And yes, Sigian and Sharn mages, working together, can seal the Crystal Sphere (and the City of Shade can then unseal it ...) However, Sigil cannot otherwise cut off planar travel from Realmspace, via the ethereal, astral, elemental, inner, or outer planes. Perhaps the Lady of Pain could indeed do this thing, but it is beyond her jurisdiction. The Lady of Pain is Neutral Incarnate, and she has absolute power over Sigil, but she would not interfere in another plane directly. The Sigilian mages and the Sharn are welcome to attempt to weave spells that would ban all planar travel from Realmspace. They could probably succeed if they really tried and worked together, and then what the Sigilian and Sharn ambassadors are trying to accomplish WOULD BE accomplished. That, of course, would be considered an act of war by most of the delegates present: an active effort to alter the Weave so that Planar Travel is not possible, but it is UP TO THE SIGILIAN/SHARN AMBASSADOR, what the Sigilian mages and sharn do. Now, if the Sigilians and the sharn could talk other powers (such as the phaerimm and the City of Shade) into helping them, it would be quite easy to ban all planar travel, and maintain that ban, although it would probably still mean war (that would be up to the rest of you.) - - - There is general terror and awe as Ao shows up, and for many long moments there is utter silence, which is then literally shattered by the kender. The kender, who is getting to meet the CREATOR of Realmspace!!!! What greater possible, greater grander thing could possibly happen to a lucky kender, than to get to meet the Creator and talk with him???? Of course, the kender starts (literally) babbling questions and comments, as fast as his mouth will allow, and he talks until he runs out of breath and turns blue in the face. Remembering finally to breathe, he takes in a huge breathe, and starts anew ... - - - Because Forrester has NOT replied yet to this Thread, the shade of Queen Amlaruil continues to watch him, waiting for a reply. Bound by special constraints, being undead, the shade of Amlaruil will not budge from her demand that the Humanoids agree to make true peace with her people. She cannot - the Chosen realize this, and they inform the assembled delegates. Unless Forrester agrees to all of her terms, she is bound to certain actions, and these actions may or may not lead to war. - - - The phaerimm ambassador, already angry, floats up, and utters a long speech in it's own language - it's so angry it doesn't even attempt to telepathically communicate the speech to anyone (they would automatically understand telepathy), so one of it's beholder servants translates for it: The phaerimm are NATIVE to Toril. Toril is our home, truly. We are the phaerimm. We have transcended hunger. We have transcended disease. We have transcended famine. WE have transcended the limitations of nature. WE HAVE transcended the limitations of reality. WE HAVE TRANSCENDED the limitations of magic. WE HAVE TRANSCENDED the limitations of space-time. WE HAVE TRANSCENDED THE LIMITATIONS of our OWN NATURE, and live TOGETHER in HARMONY. WE HAVE TRANSCENDED THE LIMITATIONS OF MORTALITY ITSELF. Under our rule, there would be PEACE upon this world. Under our rule, the study of the GREATEST OF ALL BEAUTY, MAGIC, would continue unfettered. Under our rule, the study of science would continue unfettered. Under our rule, INTELLIGENCE AND CREATIVITY would rule Realmspace. Under our rule, Toril would be TRULY protected from Extraplanar Threats, such as those currently PRESENT, and they would not come into our Courts and make threats against you. The human, demi-human, and humanoid races would be restricted, and kept under careful supervision, but they would be allowed to continue to exist within their own societies, and they would even be allowed to continue to research magic and science - but they would do so on our terms. Our terms would not allow them to create tools and magics as they have done, threatening destruction of our entire Crystal Sphere, because they lack the insight and wisdom to properly handle their discoveries. The more advanced races, such as the Faerie, the githyanki, the Dragons, and the others, would be allowed freedom to create their own societies, and function as their nature dictates. They would be restrained from making war, and they would answer to us, the phaerimm, for all that they did, but we would grant them reasonable freedom. They are competent enough to handle freedom and responsibility, so we would allow them such. We even recognize the Chosen of Mystra, and we would not interfere in their works. But what you are proposing is, literally, insane. Would your human race, allow the cows in your fields to rule you? Would you? WOULD YOU? Would you allow squirrels and rabbits to rule from the thrones of your cities? Would you allow your chickens and your goats to issue edicts from your chambers of state? But that is PRECISELY what you are demanding that WE, the phaerimm, do. Ok ... enough ... (the phaerimm tries to restrain itself, and as it's anger cools, it resumes telepathic communication that can be understood by all) We do not seek the destruction of Toril or Realmspace anymore than your Technocracy does. In SPITE of what you have been told about us, the Phaerimm CHERISH Toril, we APPRECIATE the beauty and wonder that is Toril and it's Weave, and we are willing to fight very hard to save that beauty. Therefore, we the Phaerimm offer a compromise. We offer to be your instructors and teachers. We shall travel freely amongst your Technocracy, and all the other nations of Realmspace. We shall NOT be subject to your laws. We shall not be answerable to you in any way. We shall live where we wish, and do as we please. However, we will TOLERATE living amongst you. We will not harm you. We will, to the best of our ability, seek to avoid causing events that your societies view as troublesome. We will even go so far as to protect you. We will advise your rulers on extraplanar threats and otherworld threats. We will advise your rulers on magic and it's perils - AND THAT IS A BIG OFFER, FOR WE DO NOT NORMALLY TEACH OUR MAGIC TO ANYONE, AND OUR MAGIC IS A THOUSAND YEARS AHEAD OF YOURS. We will give the best advise to your rulers on what we believe is the course towards security and peace. We will, of course, have a representative to your government present at all times, and we reserve the right to know all that is transpiring - you do not have the right to keep secrets from us, especially when we are helping you. Now, I have gone farther than any phaerimm would have ever dreamed of going, in this offer of compromise. I do this because we love Toril and we seek it's preservation, and we will make this EXTREME sacrifice for it. - - - The dwarven ambassador announces that he will accept the terms of the shade of Queen Amlaruil. The Maztican delegate and the Tuigan delegate follow suit, and the newly arrived delegates from the continent of Kara-Tur also agree. The phaerimm ambassador states it will agree to Amlaruil's terms if everyone agrees to IT'S terms. The kender is too busy asking Ao questions to answer Amlaruil, but it is obvious to everyone how he would answer. - - - The halfling ambassador, after recovering from his awe and terror of Ao, and the others, states: I heartily agree. This is a Realmspace debate. The Outsiders from Limbo and Sigil have no part in this. They were not involved in the first war, and they should not be involved now. Just who do you think you are, busting in on this Court and uttering your edicts and your threats against us? We are the people of Toril, and we are not answerable to you! We can take care of our problems very well without your interference, thank you. If you don't like our problems, then get your butts out of this Court and go back to your own Realms! I propose the following: The halflings would join the Technocracy. Then, the Phaerimm, the Technocracy, Hope Isle, the NeoIllithid, the Githyanki, the Dwarves, the Gnomes, Zouron's Magocracy, and the Fiends if we must, assemble into a United Alliance. We then proceed to utterly destroy the elves, both those of Maztica and those in their Fleet of Vengeance, and we destroy the Humanoids, both those in the Humanoid Alliance and the Scro and their Gith allies in Realmspace. If you believe this is unreasonable, consider that Forrester, the representative of the Humanoids, has not made ONE ANSWER to the shade of the Queen yonder. And when he does, IF he does, we ALL know what his response will be: You elves are unreasonable, you elves must pay, you elves are bad, etc. And we ALL know what the shade of the Queen will do: she'll sadly (the halfling smirks) bow her head, announce that it's all the Humanoid's fault, and go back to her undead sleep, and thus leave the rest of us to fry in the war HER kind are preparing to bring upon us. And I agree with Forrester - incredible! - that the Queen and her undead minions could IN NO WAY control the Fleets of Vengeance! Is she really trying to tell me that she and a few shades can talk a hundred thousand vengeful elves with the largest elven Armada in history into backing off from a war they have spent 40 YEARS assembling for? Does she - literally - insult our intelligence by suggestion that she and her shades can TALK these elves into FORGIVING the humanoids??? If she had a hundred thousand Helms of Opposition, THAT might do the trick, but words are cheap, and actions count. There is no way the elves and humanoids can coexist in peace. I cite Forrester's silence as proof. I cite the Scro's ambassador's silence as proof. I cite Queen Amlaruil's blatant blackmail as proof. I have heard one elf say he would forgive - I concede there are exceptions to every rule, but they ARE exceptions, and not the rule. The elves and the humanoids will start fighting again, and that will pull us all in, and then - in the words of AO HIMSELF, our world will be Unmade. (he almost cracks up in anger) You call me a fool? You tell me to shut up? Well, YOU LISTEN HERE! Unless you idiots can somehow talk the elves and the humanoids into agreeing to a REAL peace, this planet and all of our hides are fried. And I'm not exactly seeing the elves and the humanoids trying to make a real peace - they aren't even close, they aren't even really trying! I'm sick of their nonsense, and I'm sick of them. (He points an accusing finger at Forrester and Queen Amlaruil, and his voice drips with hatred, anger, and venom) They started the war that nearly destroyed our world, THEY committed most of the destruction, and THEY are the ones who should pay the price. - - - The Scro ambassador, now infuriated, replies to the halfling (since nobody has yet agreed to play him, and Gruffmug is absent): You little rat. If you were not within the protection of this chamber, we would throw a Lifeproof on you, so that you could never die, and then we would place you over a hot fire. And enjoy your screams for the next couple of millenia. We were assailed, without provocation or cause, by the elven Fleets in the First Inhuman War, and our people were massacred. Do you remember how we were exiled to the planet Winter by the elves? And then, how they activated the Witchlight on that world, and killed the entire interned population? Those few of us that survived hid, and we slowly rebuilt our strength, and our fleets, for a just vengeance. We took that vengeance on the Elven Imperial Navy of Realmspace, and it was a just action. It was justice. Justice for the millions of our people the elves massacred. We did NOT start the war. The elves started the war - everyone in this chamber, including the ELVES, have stated this is the case. When our humanoid friends on Toril requested our help, we moved to aid an ally; it was a perfectly reasonable act on our part, to come to the aid of a friend. We did not cause the Month of Terror, although we SUFFERED enough from it - thousands of our people died in Wildspace. The elves caused the Month of Terror. We did not cause the Cataclysm, the elves did. If you must select a race as a scapegoat, it is totally unfair to point the finger at us. Why don't you point your little grubby halfling fingers at the real criminals here, the elves? If we all agreed to exterminate the elves, I think we could have peace. I am considering Reprisal's offer of a Technocracy and World Forum, and we will consider it. However, such a Technocracy and World Forum cannot exist when the GREATEST ELVEN ARMADA IN HISTORY is about to descend on us, seeking our extermination. - - - The githyanki ambassador speaks, and she says: I resent the insult to our Queen; the implication that her Lichdom somehow makes her a lesser being, and I think the ambassador owes us an apology. The githyanki concede the gravity of the situation, and we agree with the Chosen that expedience is the best answer. I must answer to the Queen, but I believe our colony in Realmspace can at the least ally with the Technocracy, and we can send a representative to your World Court. We do not wish hostilities with any of the races of Toril, although we are justifiably wary of the NeoIllithid, and we know the Deep Illithid are our enemies - indeed, their ambassador arrived, threatened you all, then disappeared! We DO reserve the right to the territories we have gained on Luna, and those bases we have established on Selune, and on Toril itself, as well as other planets. However, we agree that there is security and strength in collective peace, and we offer our alliance to the Technocracy and it's allies. We will exist as an independent nation, but we will be your allies, and the Knights of the Githyanki will (she smiles) battle alongside you, and they shall show your enemies just how a sword should be wielded! Because we wish peace, we agree to the terms of Queen Amlaruil, although we resent this coercion. We do resent the coercion, but we must agree to it; we have no choice. We do not wish two great spelljamming Armadas using Luna as an archer's target shield. (she glares at the scro ambassador and at the shade of the Queen.) Posts: 1566 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged TheBalor Member Member # 3669 posted December 04, 2001 07:46 PM Honored Queen, this blackmail is not necessary for the negotiations for the survival of our race with the more aggressive members of this assembly. I'm sure that if you called off the invasion fleet (hopefully this is something you can do) with absolutely no terms except that past hatreds be laid aside and that this conference go on without us biting each other's heads off, then I am certain that it is possible for us to gain at least not being hunted down and killed by the Scro and Humanoids. And Forrester, with all due respect, you repaid whatever debt we owed your kind back in the war. We reduced you to nothing but savages in caves, you reduced us to nothing. -------------------- Persecution. Betrayal. Hatred. These things don't change. -The Maestro Posts: 244 | Registered: Apr 2001 | IP: Logged DocMoriartty Member Member # 8593 posted December 04, 2001 07:49 PM Moriartty rises slowly and bows lighty but solemnly to the God of Gods. "I think there has been a misunderstanding here. My clients make no threats through me. They place no demands through me. My clients who are the Sharn and Sigil are making a statement quite simply." He looks around the room at and stares for a moment at each person who holds the power to destroy Toril. "That statement is quite simple. The Sharn and Sigil have worked together quietly for several years now to create the necessary power to close Toril off from any sort of travel. This is via Spelljamming, Etheral travel, Astral Travel, or any other method. Yes our power is not omnipotent and given time many of you could break those seals. Those seals though would last at least a couple days against even your combined effort. That is all the time the time we are looking for." Moriartty pauses and waits for a reaction. When none comes he speaks further. "Why you are wondering? Simple, my clients will only seal Toril IF any side or faction attempts a mass migration OR launches an attack that will cause the armageddon. We know your powers, we know how long Toril will last if any one of you lauch your doomsday weapons. My clients will only have to hold the barrier up for a day or two to guaruntee that no one from Toril will escape armageddon and all of you will die." "My clients do not threaten to do this out of anger or bitterness. They do this out of self preservation. My clients want to make sure that if madness truly takes hold in Toril on a planetary scale that it dies on Toril. If peace is found here then my clients will put their spells away and leave things as they always are. If that peace last a couple generations my clients may even destroy the spells and artifacts they possess that will aid them in doing this as a sign that they accept what you have become." "Remember this though. There is no threat made here by my clients. There is only a statement of intent contingent upon all of YOUR actions." "Furthermore if the gnomes decide to join the Technocracy then I personally Moriartty Belros of Sigil would like to immediatly take the gnomes to court and have any and all gnomes directly related to the death of my son put on trial for mass murder with a sentance of DEATH if found guilty. We shall see if your Confederation is going to be as just as you suggest it to be." As Moriartty finishes speaking he walks back and sits down. At the same time the four Sharn floating around him move forward though none of them approach within 100 feet of the phaerimm. Suddenly and without notice all 4 Sharn start putting their hands and mouths through dimensional gaps at a rapid pace. The gaps open up all around the phaerimm that just finished speaking and in a matter of seconds over 100 hands and jaws snap the air just inches from its body. A moment after this happens a strange hmming can be heard. "We are the Sharn. We are not animals and some of you would be good to remember the last time we put you in your place. Threats and statements of superiority mean nothing when stated in the face of foes like us that could wipe you down this easily while not even being in the same room as you. If you long for your walled captivity again then continue on your course. Otherwise hold your arrogant tongue and understand that you here among those that are your equals and those that are your superiors." The 4 Sharn float back to their place and everyone can see a small smile on the face of Moriartty as he reads through some of the paperwork on his desk. quote: Originally posted by Edena_of_Neith: A few rulings: Sigil is quite capable of closing all of the Gates from and to Sigil and Realmspace. And yes, Sigian and Sharn mages, working together, can seal the Crystal Sphere (and the City of Shade can then unseal it ...) However, Sigil cannot otherwise cut off planar travel from Realmspace, via the ethereal, astral, elemental, inner, or outer planes. Perhaps the Lady of Pain could indeed do this thing, but it is beyond her jurisdiction. The Lady of Pain is Neutral Incarnate, and she has absolute power over Sigil, but she would not interfere in another plane directly. The Sigilian mages and the Sharn are welcome to attempt to weave spells that would ban all planar travel from Realmspace. They could probably succeed if they really tried and worked together, and then what the Sigilian and Sharn ambassadors are trying to accomplish WOULD BE accomplished. That, of course, would be considered an act of war by most of the delegates present: an active effort to alter the Weave so that Planar Travel is not possible, but it is UP TO THE SIGILIAN/SHARN AMBASSADOR, what the Sigilian mages and sharn do. Now, if the Sigilians and the sharn could talk other powers (such as the phaerimm and the City of Shade) into helping them, it would be quite easy to ban all planar travel, and maintain that ban, although it would probably still mean war (that would be up to the rest of you.) Posts: 135 | From: Chicago burbs | Registered: Nov 2001 | IP: Logged johnbrown Member Member # 3531 posted December 04, 2001 08:09 PM After the halfling delegate finishes his speech, Iuz once again raps his staff aginst the stone floor in applause, "Here, here, sir, again your race shows a desire to survive. If you want to keep living you must take the lives of others before they can take yours. I have never put much stock in your race. Perhaps this has been an oversight on my part?" [ December 04, 2001: Message edited by: johnbrown ] -------------------- After all, it is all about having fun ..... Posts: 67 | From: St. Louis, MO, USA | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged[/OOC] [/QUOTE]
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