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<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 1304749" data-attributes="member: 2020">(Post 21) The Second IREstlor &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 62 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 04, 2001 11:25 PM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The door to the conference opens slowly, and a man dressed in a gray cloak steps in, closing the door softly&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; behind him. Without seeking to announce his presence, he walks up into plain sight before the Chosen.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Drawing back his hood, he reveals himself to be the elf Estlor, a leader in the Great War.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I offer my apologies to my tardiness in these proceedings. I come as the cha'DIch of the alien elves&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; of Maztica. It is I who summoned them here, and it is I who have led them since that day.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The elves of Maztica express sorrow that Toril is reduced to this. They have not dwelled here long, but&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; want only to see the land be reborn anew. To this end, I am authorized to proclaim two things. The&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; alien elves offer forgiveness to the humanoids for their role in the destruction of the native elven life&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; in this realm. The alien elves also offer their services to the Technocratic Commonwealth. They have&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; no wish to adopt your way of life or your beliefs, but they realize that only by acceptance of others can&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Toril be reborn.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; What I now say I say as Estlor alone and not as the representative of any land or nation.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The elf glances about the room before turning quickly to face the Chosen, pointing a finger at them&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I hereby reject your authority on this matter. You offer us regret for your failure to act on matters? You&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; seek a quick resolution that will save your precious Toril? Preposterous! Your lack of action shows that&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; this gathering now serves only to stroke your gigantic egos! By Alix, it was the actions of the mortals in&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; this room that brought Toril to the brink of war and destruction. You make no attempts to deny that we&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; chose this path. But it seems our path does not suit you or your (Estlor spits on the ground) &quot;goddess&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Mystra. Once again, like the &quot;heroes&quot; you are, you ride into the fray promising to aid us in making the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; right decision.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; For too many years we have sat idly by and allowed the gods of this realm to rule our lives. From the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; threat of Kelevmor using us as building blocks if we did not worship one to Mystra's superfriends&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; bringing a message of doom to scare us into your line of thought our lives have been wrought with&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; nothing but mindless subservience to you and your kind. The war was the first time we as free-willed&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; mortals that we made our own decisions without concern or heed of what you thought. Did you learn&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; nothing from the time of troubles?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I forsake Mystra! I forsake her Chosen! I forsake all that dare call themselves gods among men. Your&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; place was in an age long past. Your time ended when Forrester commanded the humanoids to slay the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; elves and defile Evermeet. This is OUR time now. If we destroy the world, so be it. If we save it, so be&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; it. I would rather see the elven fleet obliterate all of Toril than watch it be remade to dance to your&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; tune.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Estlor directs his attention to the manifestation of Ao&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; And you, how you can even dare to enter this place! Creator of Toril, abandoner of people. You sit on&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the sidelines claiming full neutrality only to make yourself known when it best suits your prestige.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Consider me ungrateful for creating my kind, but you are not needed either!&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Estlor turns to face all those gathered here&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Don't you see? This meeting is artificial. Whatever results from it will be endebted to and guided by&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the gods once more without concern for our own needs and hopes. The time to revere these pitiful&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; creatures has passed. Drow, turn away from Lolth. What has she gained you? Enslavement by the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; illithids and hatred of others. Others, ask yourself what your god has done for you? I am sure you will&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; see nothing is the answer. If the &quot;greater powers&quot; loved this world, they would have done something&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; before it became convenient for them to save the day.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; This gathering is a joke.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; --------------------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Lighthouse Webmaster&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;More conversions, less talk.&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 514 | Registered: Dec 2000&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; TheBalor &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 3669 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 05, 2001 12:09 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Actually, we elves weren't created by Ao. Corellon Larethian is our creator. He is the creator of all elves,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; everywhere.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; --------------------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Persecution. Betrayal. Hatred. These things don't change. -The Maestro&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 244 | Registered: Apr 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Reprisal &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 2368 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 05, 2001 12:44 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ((DocMor, I can't seem to find your questions pertaining to the Commmonwealth and the legal&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; system. Could you reiterate, please?))&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Surprised at Lord Forrester's statement about possibly joining the Commmonwealth, I smile a bit, and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; then realize how monumentously difficult it would be to integrate such a society into the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Commonwealth. I would excuse myself from the proceedings to speak with my peers and subordinates&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; on the matter.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; --------------------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity.&quot; - Albert Camus&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 223 | From: Parksville, BC, Canada | Registered: Feb 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena_of_Neith &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 1235 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 05, 2001 02:23 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; To answer Forrester's questions:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Technocracy Commonwealth has 50 million beings.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Humanoid Alliance has between 250 million beings.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Zouron's Magocracy has about 10 million people and an equal number of undead&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; servants/slaves/independents&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The dwarves number several million&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The gnomes number several million&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The halflings number around half a million&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The kender number ... well nobody knows how many kender there are ... more than half a million.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Tuigan number a few hundred thousand.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The people of the continent of Zakhara number 100 million.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The native people of Maztica number several million, but that's spread out over the entire continent.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The elves of Northern Maztica number under a hundred thousand.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Bran's druids number in the tens of thousands, but the sentient or semi-sentient trees they represent&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; number in the billions (which is to say, only a tiny percentage of trees on Toril are sentient or&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; semi-sentient, by the way)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The nations of Kara-Tur number from a few million to 100 million.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The people of the 4 other continents on Toril number roughly half a billion beings.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The githyanki of Luna number only a few tens of thousands, and a few tens of thousands dwell&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; elsewhere.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The neoillithid also number several tens of thousands.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; There are probably 30 or 40 million beings on Selune, but three quarters of the population there is&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; transitory&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The scro and gith combined number over 100 million.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; No population projections are possible for the deep illithid ... it is enough to say they number over one&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; million, and they are NOT interested in the democratic Technocracy.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The phaerimm number under under ten thousand, and their beholder slaves around one hundred&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; thousand.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Nobody knows how many people live in the City of Shade&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; How many peoples live on the other worlds of Realmspace is not known.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Power Level of the Unseelie: 15 + 40 if the Unseelie Court threw it's support into the war + 100 if the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Unseelie Court declared Total War (yes, the Unseelie are weaker that the Faerie!)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; - - -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Queen Amlaruil regards Forrester coldly, and speaks:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; So, you choose to play games, humanoid?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Very well.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I shall play your game, and let all witness that I have gone along with the requirements of the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; humanoid emissary.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; She disappears, then reappears with about 10 elves, and a force field of magic goes up around them&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; for protection.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; She looks at them, they look at her: their communications are entirely telepathic, and their&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; conversation is occurring under a Tempus Fugit and under telepathy combined: they are conversing at&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 60 times the speed of normal communication.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The 10 elves momentarily are surprised, then amazed, then awed, as they learn where they are.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Then they are attentive, then they are astonished and angry, then they are VERY ANGRY, then they&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; are ... well, there isn't any word in the English language that describes how angry they are.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Through all this, Amlaruil maintains her composure and calm, but her stare - directed at the elves -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; turns as cold as a glacier, and her face as hard as adamantite.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Then, Amlaruil is heard to say, clearly and loudly, by ALL present in the Court, the following:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; You shall forgive, and YOU SHALL REPENT.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; If you do not, I and the Watchnorns will exact a punishment on you that elves eons from now will&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; shiver in memory of.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; You shall come to Realmspace, and you shall lay down your arms, and YOU SHALL behave as civilized&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; beings, and take your part in the greater civilization they are building here.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (Strength of Amlaruil and the Watchnorns: 50 + 50 from help they can summon)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The elves regard Amlaruil as if she had gone quite mad, then some smirk.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Amlaruil regards them, and then speaks in a no-nonsense tone:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We can read your thoughts, we know your intentions, you cannot hide from us, you cannot escape if we&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; choose to find you.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; You will be monitored constantly by us, your thoughts will be probed constantly by us, your spirits are&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; like clear glass - or glass stained black sometimes - to us.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The elves glare at her in amazement, incredible anger, and contempt, and one says:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Well then, we just won't come at all.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Amlaruil replies:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; YOU WILL COME. And you will help these people, and many will find love for Toril in their hearts, and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; they will stay when we release the rest of you from your obligations.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; One of the elves mutters that this is insane, that Amlaruil can in no way enforce this, and his fleet will&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; do as it (deleted) pleases.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Amlaruil smiles grimly, and says to that elf:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; As you spoke those words, the Watchnorns have been observing all your ships and elves thereupon.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Distance is not a factor for us.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Shall we make an example of some of your people? Does your mind require such proof?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The elf glares, says something that would get me kicked off the ENBoards if I repeated it, then&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; disappears.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; He reappears within the minute, white as a ghost, terrified, and he stutters that he will accept&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Amlaruil's terms.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The other elves, upon seeing this, each disappear and reappear, and all of them look stricken, afraid,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; angry, and some look at the Queen in awe.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; All mumble agreements to come to Realmspace and abide by the Queen's demands.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Amlaruil then speaks:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I know the falseness in these statements, and I know where your hearts lie ... I and my people&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; suffered the consequences of such darkness as lies in your spirits, and are paying for it.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; You WILL learn forgiveness, and you WILL learn repentence, and YOU WILL cooperate with myself and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; my people.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The elves then turn to Forrester, and - sullenly, with hatred written on their faces, contempt and anger&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; screaming from them - they mumble that they will make peace with the scro and humanoids.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The shade of Queen Amlaruil then looks at Forrester, and says:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We the spirits of the elves who were, have kept our agreement, and we will constrain the People to the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; conditions I have named.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; But they shall be restrained only in regards to those people who agree to meet the terms I have&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; required from you.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; You must agree to my terms, all of them, in full, and in spirit.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; What say you, Forrester?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; - - -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; At this point, the drow breaks out into laughter more hysterical than before, if that is possible.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Tears of mirth rolling down her face, she comments:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Well!&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Queen Amlaruil has just laid the seeds of civil war amongst her own kind, and the seeds of hatred&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; between elf and elf!&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; How amusing. How delightfully, deliciously wonderful! Lolth will be well pleased by this.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; And the humanoid STILL won't agree to her conditions, and she'll be left out in the cold, her people&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; cast out by all the other elves!&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Or, should I say, her undead people?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; What a show. The humanoids and the elves, like pretty dolls children smash and break as a game,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; mimicking the behavior of the real thing.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; And now, the elves are forever divided!&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; As for the drow, we reject your accords utterly, o Queen of a piece of empty ocean.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We utterly reject the Technocracy. We think the only thing humans and demi-humans are good for is&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; as slaves and sacrifices, and humanoids don't even make good slaves.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We bring the power of Lolth, and by the power of Lolth the drow will conquer, and the drow will be&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; supreme, even if we have to wait that million years that idiot woman there spoke of!&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; - - -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The halfling ambassador then mutters:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I've changed my mind.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I no longer say we all unite, and kill the elves and the humanoids.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I say we all unite, kill the elves AND the drow AND the humanoids.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [ December 05, 2001: Message edited by: Edena_of_Neith ]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 1566 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Reprisal &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 2368 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 05, 2001 03:03 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ((I, as a player, do not know what DocMorriarty is refering to when he speaks of the death of his son.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Is it in the original thread?))&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;Any trials against alleged international criminals would be prosecuting in the International Court of&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Justice (ICJ), which would be a part of the World Council Organization (WCO). Of course, these things&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; will have to be ratified in the WCO's General Assembly, once that, in and of itself, is established.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;We have a plan, a nigh-comprehensive one, but we need to flesh out the details fairly soon if results&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; are what you need.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;Also, I am sad to inform Lord Forrester that all parties in our Commonwealth Chamber and nearly&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; seventy-five percent of the states in the Commonwealth Senate are opposed to the Humanoid Alliance&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; joining, in its entirety, the Technocracy. This is not to say I am opposed, but at this juncture, I am&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; utterly out-voted. They speak of several concerns: (1) the huge economic investment in such an&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; endeavour may be too costly in comparison to the benefits, (2) several of the member nations and a&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; big percentage of all the other member races, even the humanoids themselves, are opposed to the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Humanoid Alliance's population usurping their voices in the primary legislative house, the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Commonwealth Chamber... Many of them fear that the Humanoid Alliance will simply conquer the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Commonwealth by virtue of assimilation on a social and cultural level.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;That being said, we are will to enter into an agreement of sorts on the political and economic level.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; When I suggested such a project, there was still some opposition because such an organization is not&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; in the interest of internationalism. What I believe is that we should focus on establishing a set of rules&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; and regulations pertaining to the entire international stage, in other words the World Council&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Organization, before we start thinking of other InterGovernmental Organizations (IGOs).&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ((Perhaps we should start another thread pertaining to the establishment of the World Council&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Organization. The Commonwealth would be more than happy to host the talks in their capital,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; although Hope Island would also be a good place to start one. If everyone agrees to such a thread, I&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; could start one and my character could chair the meeting.))&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [ December 05, 2001: Message edited by: Reprisal ]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; --------------------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity.&quot; - Albert Camus&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 223 | From: Parksville, BC, Canada | Registered: Feb 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; zouron &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 3707 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 05, 2001 03:23 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; *zouron smirks and glances around*&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I for one stand behind Forrester and believe he has the power to govern his people, I also reject the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; commonwealth since it refuses to take in my ally Forrester.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; And as for the powers that come from the outside of Toril, get lost! you are not wanted this is our world&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; not yours. Slaadi, Sigil, or whatever dirt hole you originate from, you don't see us suddenly invading&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; your home making all kinds of demands now do you? be nice and good and do the same.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; *smirks and turns to Forrester*&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; While we do rarely stand eye to eye on agreement, I stand behind you here against their judgements&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; against you. I will not start another war to elimnate elves and so on, but if these... intruders start&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; invadking I will stand with you and offer you the security of my closed demiplane if such should be&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; needed.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; *turns to the assembly*&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Unless we can stop harrashing and degrading each other, and start something real, I am gone from&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; this meeting, even if it means isolation.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; --------------------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Alone is something we all are&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; only far away voices breaks the silence&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; whom wish to escape&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; this labyrinth of loneliness&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; we fumble our way, but finds nothing&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; because here are no walls&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; only the fear's angst&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; keeps us apart&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 158 | From: Hvidovre, Denmark | Registered: Apr 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Reprisal &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 2368 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 05, 2001 03:25 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; quote:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The slaadi chaos wave is NOT gone or halted: it is merely delayed, and it will hit when&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the conference dissolves.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Since the wave of chaos is an act of war, the slaadi player should consider that fact, and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; whether or not the slaadi will reverse the wave of chaos (so that it does not strike at all)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; before the conference ends.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ((Wish I had read this earlier...))&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;The ... Ambassador of the Slaadi has not taken into account that our stockpile of 'doomsday'&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; weapons is what has kept us out of another war for the past forty years. We are only at peace right&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; now and for those past years because they exist. Do you really believe that he absence of such&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; weapons will create more peace, or less? I'm inclined to believe the latter, simply because the vacuum&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; would have to be filled with conventional forces, which are more volatile than strategic forces such as&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; our nuclear weaponry.&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; --------------------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity.&quot; - Albert Camus&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 223 | From: Parksville, BC, Canada | Registered: Feb 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Reprisal &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 2368 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 05, 2001 03:33 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;I agree with Zouron on the matter of sovereignty and the right to self-determination of those native&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; to Toril. I, for one, see no reason why such parties as the Slaadi and the Sharn have their noses in our&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; business. It seems like opportunism far more than an actual interest in the affairs of our world.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;As for rejecting entrance into the Commonwealth, I understand your point. I too am disappointed by&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the result, but the nation has spoken. Originally, the invitation was to be made to nation-states who&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; needed to be developed and protected. Both the Humanoid Alliance and the Magocracy are more than&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; able to stand on their own feet. Entrance into the Commonwealth is optional and subject to&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Parliamentry ratification, but I hope this does not change your position in relation to the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Commonwealth. We have never considered the Magocracy enemies, and hope to develop economic&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; treaties with you some day down the road.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;Also, I also hope the World Council Organization will be realized. We need some concrete ground to&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; stand on whilst we talk about the affairs of state.&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; --------------------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity.&quot; - Albert Camus&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 223 | From: Parksville, BC, Canada | Registered: Feb 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Aloïsius &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 2977 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 05, 2001 03:42 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Hazedil is sadened by Astlor words.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;Astlor, you are blind. The gods are powerful, indeed, but against foolishness the gods themselves are&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; powerless. You accuse them of tyrany, but we have ever been free-willed, all of us. Gods are not&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; superior being using Mortal as tools or slaves, Gods are the incarnation of Mortal's feeling, aspirations&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; and beliefs. In fact, we are more free-willed than Gods, cause we determine what they are. The drow&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; are not evil because their worship Lloth, they worship Lloth because they are evil.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; And if you ask me what Lathander as done for me... It's His power who has give life back to my elven&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; great-father, as well as thousands of other elves, half-elves and humans, who have been killed by the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; stupidity and hatred of Mortals. If all run as we want, I invite you to visit one of our cities, by example&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; SongeWood. There you will see why we are following Lathander,The God who hold dominion on Dawn,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Renewal, Creativity, Youth, Vitality Spring and Birth, and why we aggree with the Ethos he represents.&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; He then turns to the speaker of the Sharns and the Sigillian&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;Moriartty, your pain is as great as was those of my father when he came back to Toril, 40 years ago.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; But rather than seeking revenge against the killer of his family, he worked really hard to rebuild what&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; he can. Now, all this work risk to be destroy. This can't happen. We won't allow it. We have decided,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; whatever the rampaging madness can cause to save as most people as we can, by planeshifting them&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; in the domain of our Lord. This is not to save our life, but to save the Life. We want to be able to&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; come back later to revive Toril. Lathander is the Lover of Chauntea, and Toril is the body of Chauntea,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; in the same way that the Weave is the body of Mystra. We will never let she die. We will never let her&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; disappear. We don't plan to wage war against anyone. We don't plan to even defend ourselves against&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; aggressions : we just want to keep peace, and if we are unsuccessful, to leave the material plane for a&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; while. Do not try to halt us. We do not spread the madness your clients fear. Rather the contrary : if&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Toril is utterly destroyed, if we haven't been able to preserve a part of it, there will be a gate to&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Nothingness open in this cosmic system, and it will propagate through the plane of shadow to all the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; other, Sigil included. Anyway, I must say that no barrier will resit to the raw power of the greater Gods&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; of Toril and their united followers : Lathander is all you want, but resignation and fatalism he is not,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; and he will even disobey to Lord Ao to save his Love and his Followers.&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; To the representant of the Technomancy&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;Reprisal, I'm waiting your reply&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Then he turn his head to the Githyanki ambassador : &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;You have made a good point about the Deep Illithids : as we are here, trying to preserve peace, they&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; are preparing the destruction of all living surface races. Worst, in our point of vue, they plan to use the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; very light of the Sun to kill. It's what we believe to be a cosmic rape. They will have a surprise if they&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ever try to fullfill this.&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (OoC : Edena, mail incoming) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 345 | From: Montpellier, France | Registered: Mar 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena_of_Neith &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 1235 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 05, 2001 03:42 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Gnomish ambassador replies:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We were thinking of joining the Technocracy, or at the least allying with it.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; But, we are not by Elysium going to allow our people to be tried in a foreign - or, world, or spherian, or&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; whatever - court, and executed for crimes they did not commit.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; If that is the price of joining the Technocracy, or the price of your alliance, we will reject the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Technocracy.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; However, I once more would like to say with urgency that the gnomes DO support the idea of the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; demoncratic technocracy, we WOULD be happy to throw our support - both culturally and militarily - to&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; their side, and we believe that the collective strength of the Technocracy would lead to mutual security&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; and peace (The Dwarven ambassador mutters: peace in strength).&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We have offered to resurrect this man's son, and to pay a huge indemnity in gold for his losses, and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; that is sufficient reparation.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We are a just people, the gnomes, and we are offering restitution to the wronged.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We will not, however, tolerate institutionalized injustice against us.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The choice is yours.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; - - -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Upon hearing the Technocratic Representative announce that many (if not most) of the humanoids will&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; not be allowed into the Technocracy, most of the Chosen sigh in exasperation.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; But there is nothing they can do about it, and they have to answer yet another accusation directed&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; against THEM:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Laeral steps aside, and Alustriel, who alone among the Chosen has remained totally calm and serene,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; speaks, in her quiet, gentle voice:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We acknowledge the mistakes we have made.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We have said there were consequences, and that we would be required to answer for all our deeds.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Such is the responsibility of power, and we accept the responsibility.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; If Toril dies, we will not.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Upon it's dead surface will we walk, and we shall not be alive, but shall exist in undeath. Not the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; peaceful undeath of the Watchnorn, but the tortured undeath of the spectre.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; For the Weave will be forever ruined, and as the Weave is ruined, so will we be ruined.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; And we shall remain that way, for all eternity, until the Sun itself finally expands and burns red in the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; sky, and finally our suffering is ended in it's purifying flames.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; That is the price of our failure, should you choose to destroy yourselves, and with yourselves the world&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; of Toril.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We are not the Makers, or the Overseers of the Planes.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We are bound by the dictates of the Gods as truly as you are, and Kelemvor's Wall awaits us if we are&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; unfaithful truely - although that would be a mild punishment compared to the wrath of Mystra.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We cannot force you to accept a patron diety; all we can accomplish is to educate you concerning the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; realities of the Afterlife you face, then allow you to make your own choices.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Indeed, we have striven to educate, and to encourage self teaching, and thus to bring empowerment&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; and enlightenment, amongst all the races, and allowed them to choose their own ways. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; As much as was possible within the dictates of Mystra.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Thus, we permitted the Gnomish inventions, and we permitted the elvish retribution - we were NOT&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; actively aiding the saboteurs, nor did we condone their actions; we simply did not interfere - and we&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; did not interfere with the gnome counter-retribution.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We are not guilty in the Making of the Seven Year War; unless it were that we did not exercise our&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; power to stop it, and thus reduce the free races to chattel under our rule.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; You must accept the responsibility for yourselves, your actions, and the consequences.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; In so doing, you will find the answers you seek, and you will bring redemption to both yourselves and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; us in so doing. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 1566 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 1304749, member: 2020"] [b](Post 21) The Second IR[/b] Estlor Member Member # 62 posted December 04, 2001 11:25 PM The door to the conference opens slowly, and a man dressed in a gray cloak steps in, closing the door softly behind him. Without seeking to announce his presence, he walks up into plain sight before the Chosen. Drawing back his hood, he reveals himself to be the elf Estlor, a leader in the Great War. I offer my apologies to my tardiness in these proceedings. I come as the cha'DIch of the alien elves of Maztica. It is I who summoned them here, and it is I who have led them since that day. The elves of Maztica express sorrow that Toril is reduced to this. They have not dwelled here long, but want only to see the land be reborn anew. To this end, I am authorized to proclaim two things. The alien elves offer forgiveness to the humanoids for their role in the destruction of the native elven life in this realm. The alien elves also offer their services to the Technocratic Commonwealth. They have no wish to adopt your way of life or your beliefs, but they realize that only by acceptance of others can Toril be reborn. What I now say I say as Estlor alone and not as the representative of any land or nation. The elf glances about the room before turning quickly to face the Chosen, pointing a finger at them I hereby reject your authority on this matter. You offer us regret for your failure to act on matters? You seek a quick resolution that will save your precious Toril? Preposterous! Your lack of action shows that this gathering now serves only to stroke your gigantic egos! By Alix, it was the actions of the mortals in this room that brought Toril to the brink of war and destruction. You make no attempts to deny that we chose this path. But it seems our path does not suit you or your (Estlor spits on the ground) "goddess" Mystra. Once again, like the "heroes" you are, you ride into the fray promising to aid us in making the right decision. For too many years we have sat idly by and allowed the gods of this realm to rule our lives. From the threat of Kelevmor using us as building blocks if we did not worship one to Mystra's superfriends bringing a message of doom to scare us into your line of thought our lives have been wrought with nothing but mindless subservience to you and your kind. The war was the first time we as free-willed mortals that we made our own decisions without concern or heed of what you thought. Did you learn nothing from the time of troubles? I forsake Mystra! I forsake her Chosen! I forsake all that dare call themselves gods among men. Your place was in an age long past. Your time ended when Forrester commanded the humanoids to slay the elves and defile Evermeet. This is OUR time now. If we destroy the world, so be it. If we save it, so be it. I would rather see the elven fleet obliterate all of Toril than watch it be remade to dance to your tune. Estlor directs his attention to the manifestation of Ao And you, how you can even dare to enter this place! Creator of Toril, abandoner of people. You sit on the sidelines claiming full neutrality only to make yourself known when it best suits your prestige. Consider me ungrateful for creating my kind, but you are not needed either! Estlor turns to face all those gathered here Don't you see? This meeting is artificial. Whatever results from it will be endebted to and guided by the gods once more without concern for our own needs and hopes. The time to revere these pitiful creatures has passed. Drow, turn away from Lolth. What has she gained you? Enslavement by the illithids and hatred of others. Others, ask yourself what your god has done for you? I am sure you will see nothing is the answer. If the "greater powers" loved this world, they would have done something before it became convenient for them to save the day. This gathering is a joke. -------------------- The Lighthouse Webmaster "More conversions, less talk." Posts: 514 | Registered: Dec 2000 | IP: Logged TheBalor Member Member # 3669 posted December 05, 2001 12:09 AM Actually, we elves weren't created by Ao. Corellon Larethian is our creator. He is the creator of all elves, everywhere. -------------------- Persecution. Betrayal. Hatred. These things don't change. -The Maestro Posts: 244 | Registered: Apr 2001 | IP: Logged Reprisal Member Member # 2368 posted December 05, 2001 12:44 AM ((DocMor, I can't seem to find your questions pertaining to the Commmonwealth and the legal system. Could you reiterate, please?)) Surprised at Lord Forrester's statement about possibly joining the Commmonwealth, I smile a bit, and then realize how monumentously difficult it would be to integrate such a society into the Commonwealth. I would excuse myself from the proceedings to speak with my peers and subordinates on the matter. -------------------- "Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus Posts: 223 | From: Parksville, BC, Canada | Registered: Feb 2001 | IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member Member # 1235 posted December 05, 2001 02:23 AM To answer Forrester's questions: The Technocracy Commonwealth has 50 million beings. The Humanoid Alliance has between 250 million beings. Zouron's Magocracy has about 10 million people and an equal number of undead servants/slaves/independents The dwarves number several million The gnomes number several million The halflings number around half a million The kender number ... well nobody knows how many kender there are ... more than half a million. The Tuigan number a few hundred thousand. The people of the continent of Zakhara number 100 million. The native people of Maztica number several million, but that's spread out over the entire continent. The elves of Northern Maztica number under a hundred thousand. Bran's druids number in the tens of thousands, but the sentient or semi-sentient trees they represent number in the billions (which is to say, only a tiny percentage of trees on Toril are sentient or semi-sentient, by the way) The nations of Kara-Tur number from a few million to 100 million. The people of the 4 other continents on Toril number roughly half a billion beings. The githyanki of Luna number only a few tens of thousands, and a few tens of thousands dwell elsewhere. The neoillithid also number several tens of thousands. There are probably 30 or 40 million beings on Selune, but three quarters of the population there is transitory The scro and gith combined number over 100 million. No population projections are possible for the deep illithid ... it is enough to say they number over one million, and they are NOT interested in the democratic Technocracy. The phaerimm number under under ten thousand, and their beholder slaves around one hundred thousand. Nobody knows how many people live in the City of Shade How many peoples live on the other worlds of Realmspace is not known. Power Level of the Unseelie: 15 + 40 if the Unseelie Court threw it's support into the war + 100 if the Unseelie Court declared Total War (yes, the Unseelie are weaker that the Faerie!) - - - Queen Amlaruil regards Forrester coldly, and speaks: So, you choose to play games, humanoid? Very well. I shall play your game, and let all witness that I have gone along with the requirements of the humanoid emissary. She disappears, then reappears with about 10 elves, and a force field of magic goes up around them for protection. She looks at them, they look at her: their communications are entirely telepathic, and their conversation is occurring under a Tempus Fugit and under telepathy combined: they are conversing at 60 times the speed of normal communication. The 10 elves momentarily are surprised, then amazed, then awed, as they learn where they are. Then they are attentive, then they are astonished and angry, then they are VERY ANGRY, then they are ... well, there isn't any word in the English language that describes how angry they are. Through all this, Amlaruil maintains her composure and calm, but her stare - directed at the elves - turns as cold as a glacier, and her face as hard as adamantite. Then, Amlaruil is heard to say, clearly and loudly, by ALL present in the Court, the following: You shall forgive, and YOU SHALL REPENT. If you do not, I and the Watchnorns will exact a punishment on you that elves eons from now will shiver in memory of. You shall come to Realmspace, and you shall lay down your arms, and YOU SHALL behave as civilized beings, and take your part in the greater civilization they are building here. (Strength of Amlaruil and the Watchnorns: 50 + 50 from help they can summon) The elves regard Amlaruil as if she had gone quite mad, then some smirk. Amlaruil regards them, and then speaks in a no-nonsense tone: We can read your thoughts, we know your intentions, you cannot hide from us, you cannot escape if we choose to find you. You will be monitored constantly by us, your thoughts will be probed constantly by us, your spirits are like clear glass - or glass stained black sometimes - to us. The elves glare at her in amazement, incredible anger, and contempt, and one says: Well then, we just won't come at all. Amlaruil replies: YOU WILL COME. And you will help these people, and many will find love for Toril in their hearts, and they will stay when we release the rest of you from your obligations. One of the elves mutters that this is insane, that Amlaruil can in no way enforce this, and his fleet will do as it (deleted) pleases. Amlaruil smiles grimly, and says to that elf: As you spoke those words, the Watchnorns have been observing all your ships and elves thereupon. Distance is not a factor for us. Shall we make an example of some of your people? Does your mind require such proof? The elf glares, says something that would get me kicked off the ENBoards if I repeated it, then disappears. He reappears within the minute, white as a ghost, terrified, and he stutters that he will accept Amlaruil's terms. The other elves, upon seeing this, each disappear and reappear, and all of them look stricken, afraid, angry, and some look at the Queen in awe. All mumble agreements to come to Realmspace and abide by the Queen's demands. Amlaruil then speaks: I know the falseness in these statements, and I know where your hearts lie ... I and my people suffered the consequences of such darkness as lies in your spirits, and are paying for it. You WILL learn forgiveness, and you WILL learn repentence, and YOU WILL cooperate with myself and my people. The elves then turn to Forrester, and - sullenly, with hatred written on their faces, contempt and anger screaming from them - they mumble that they will make peace with the scro and humanoids. The shade of Queen Amlaruil then looks at Forrester, and says: We the spirits of the elves who were, have kept our agreement, and we will constrain the People to the conditions I have named. But they shall be restrained only in regards to those people who agree to meet the terms I have required from you. You must agree to my terms, all of them, in full, and in spirit. What say you, Forrester? - - - At this point, the drow breaks out into laughter more hysterical than before, if that is possible. Tears of mirth rolling down her face, she comments: Well! Queen Amlaruil has just laid the seeds of civil war amongst her own kind, and the seeds of hatred between elf and elf! How amusing. How delightfully, deliciously wonderful! Lolth will be well pleased by this. And the humanoid STILL won't agree to her conditions, and she'll be left out in the cold, her people cast out by all the other elves! Or, should I say, her undead people? What a show. The humanoids and the elves, like pretty dolls children smash and break as a game, mimicking the behavior of the real thing. And now, the elves are forever divided! As for the drow, we reject your accords utterly, o Queen of a piece of empty ocean. We utterly reject the Technocracy. We think the only thing humans and demi-humans are good for is as slaves and sacrifices, and humanoids don't even make good slaves. We bring the power of Lolth, and by the power of Lolth the drow will conquer, and the drow will be supreme, even if we have to wait that million years that idiot woman there spoke of! - - - The halfling ambassador then mutters: I've changed my mind. I no longer say we all unite, and kill the elves and the humanoids. I say we all unite, kill the elves AND the drow AND the humanoids. [ December 05, 2001: Message edited by: Edena_of_Neith ] Posts: 1566 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged Reprisal Member Member # 2368 posted December 05, 2001 03:03 AM ((I, as a player, do not know what DocMorriarty is refering to when he speaks of the death of his son. Is it in the original thread?)) "Any trials against alleged international criminals would be prosecuting in the International Court of Justice (ICJ), which would be a part of the World Council Organization (WCO). Of course, these things will have to be ratified in the WCO's General Assembly, once that, in and of itself, is established. "We have a plan, a nigh-comprehensive one, but we need to flesh out the details fairly soon if results are what you need. "Also, I am sad to inform Lord Forrester that all parties in our Commonwealth Chamber and nearly seventy-five percent of the states in the Commonwealth Senate are opposed to the Humanoid Alliance joining, in its entirety, the Technocracy. This is not to say I am opposed, but at this juncture, I am utterly out-voted. They speak of several concerns: (1) the huge economic investment in such an endeavour may be too costly in comparison to the benefits, (2) several of the member nations and a big percentage of all the other member races, even the humanoids themselves, are opposed to the Humanoid Alliance's population usurping their voices in the primary legislative house, the Commonwealth Chamber... Many of them fear that the Humanoid Alliance will simply conquer the Commonwealth by virtue of assimilation on a social and cultural level. "That being said, we are will to enter into an agreement of sorts on the political and economic level. When I suggested such a project, there was still some opposition because such an organization is not in the interest of internationalism. What I believe is that we should focus on establishing a set of rules and regulations pertaining to the entire international stage, in other words the World Council Organization, before we start thinking of other InterGovernmental Organizations (IGOs)." ((Perhaps we should start another thread pertaining to the establishment of the World Council Organization. The Commonwealth would be more than happy to host the talks in their capital, although Hope Island would also be a good place to start one. If everyone agrees to such a thread, I could start one and my character could chair the meeting.)) [ December 05, 2001: Message edited by: Reprisal ] -------------------- "Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus Posts: 223 | From: Parksville, BC, Canada | Registered: Feb 2001 | IP: Logged zouron Member Member # 3707 posted December 05, 2001 03:23 AM *zouron smirks and glances around* I for one stand behind Forrester and believe he has the power to govern his people, I also reject the commonwealth since it refuses to take in my ally Forrester. And as for the powers that come from the outside of Toril, get lost! you are not wanted this is our world not yours. Slaadi, Sigil, or whatever dirt hole you originate from, you don't see us suddenly invading your home making all kinds of demands now do you? be nice and good and do the same. *smirks and turns to Forrester* While we do rarely stand eye to eye on agreement, I stand behind you here against their judgements against you. I will not start another war to elimnate elves and so on, but if these... intruders start invadking I will stand with you and offer you the security of my closed demiplane if such should be needed. *turns to the assembly* Unless we can stop harrashing and degrading each other, and start something real, I am gone from this meeting, even if it means isolation. -------------------- Alone is something we all are only far away voices breaks the silence whom wish to escape this labyrinth of loneliness we fumble our way, but finds nothing because here are no walls only the fear's angst keeps us apart Posts: 158 | From: Hvidovre, Denmark | Registered: Apr 2001 | IP: Logged Reprisal Member Member # 2368 posted December 05, 2001 03:25 AM quote: The slaadi chaos wave is NOT gone or halted: it is merely delayed, and it will hit when the conference dissolves. Since the wave of chaos is an act of war, the slaadi player should consider that fact, and whether or not the slaadi will reverse the wave of chaos (so that it does not strike at all) before the conference ends. ((Wish I had read this earlier...)) "The ... Ambassador of the Slaadi has not taken into account that our stockpile of 'doomsday' weapons is what has kept us out of another war for the past forty years. We are only at peace right now and for those past years because they exist. Do you really believe that he absence of such weapons will create more peace, or less? I'm inclined to believe the latter, simply because the vacuum would have to be filled with conventional forces, which are more volatile than strategic forces such as our nuclear weaponry." -------------------- "Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus Posts: 223 | From: Parksville, BC, Canada | Registered: Feb 2001 | IP: Logged Reprisal Member Member # 2368 posted December 05, 2001 03:33 AM "I agree with Zouron on the matter of sovereignty and the right to self-determination of those native to Toril. I, for one, see no reason why such parties as the Slaadi and the Sharn have their noses in our business. It seems like opportunism far more than an actual interest in the affairs of our world. "As for rejecting entrance into the Commonwealth, I understand your point. I too am disappointed by the result, but the nation has spoken. Originally, the invitation was to be made to nation-states who needed to be developed and protected. Both the Humanoid Alliance and the Magocracy are more than able to stand on their own feet. Entrance into the Commonwealth is optional and subject to Parliamentry ratification, but I hope this does not change your position in relation to the Commonwealth. We have never considered the Magocracy enemies, and hope to develop economic treaties with you some day down the road. "Also, I also hope the World Council Organization will be realized. We need some concrete ground to stand on whilst we talk about the affairs of state." -------------------- "Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus Posts: 223 | From: Parksville, BC, Canada | Registered: Feb 2001 | IP: Logged Aloïsius Member Member # 2977 posted December 05, 2001 03:42 AM Hazedil is sadened by Astlor words. "Astlor, you are blind. The gods are powerful, indeed, but against foolishness the gods themselves are powerless. You accuse them of tyrany, but we have ever been free-willed, all of us. Gods are not superior being using Mortal as tools or slaves, Gods are the incarnation of Mortal's feeling, aspirations and beliefs. In fact, we are more free-willed than Gods, cause we determine what they are. The drow are not evil because their worship Lloth, they worship Lloth because they are evil. And if you ask me what Lathander as done for me... It's His power who has give life back to my elven great-father, as well as thousands of other elves, half-elves and humans, who have been killed by the stupidity and hatred of Mortals. If all run as we want, I invite you to visit one of our cities, by example SongeWood. There you will see why we are following Lathander,The God who hold dominion on Dawn, Renewal, Creativity, Youth, Vitality Spring and Birth, and why we aggree with the Ethos he represents." He then turns to the speaker of the Sharns and the Sigillian "Moriartty, your pain is as great as was those of my father when he came back to Toril, 40 years ago. But rather than seeking revenge against the killer of his family, he worked really hard to rebuild what he can. Now, all this work risk to be destroy. This can't happen. We won't allow it. We have decided, whatever the rampaging madness can cause to save as most people as we can, by planeshifting them in the domain of our Lord. This is not to save our life, but to save the Life. We want to be able to come back later to revive Toril. Lathander is the Lover of Chauntea, and Toril is the body of Chauntea, in the same way that the Weave is the body of Mystra. We will never let she die. We will never let her disappear. We don't plan to wage war against anyone. We don't plan to even defend ourselves against aggressions : we just want to keep peace, and if we are unsuccessful, to leave the material plane for a while. Do not try to halt us. We do not spread the madness your clients fear. Rather the contrary : if Toril is utterly destroyed, if we haven't been able to preserve a part of it, there will be a gate to Nothingness open in this cosmic system, and it will propagate through the plane of shadow to all the other, Sigil included. Anyway, I must say that no barrier will resit to the raw power of the greater Gods of Toril and their united followers : Lathander is all you want, but resignation and fatalism he is not, and he will even disobey to Lord Ao to save his Love and his Followers." To the representant of the Technomancy "Reprisal, I'm waiting your reply" Then he turn his head to the Githyanki ambassador : "You have made a good point about the Deep Illithids : as we are here, trying to preserve peace, they are preparing the destruction of all living surface races. Worst, in our point of vue, they plan to use the very light of the Sun to kill. It's what we believe to be a cosmic rape. They will have a surprise if they ever try to fullfill this." (OoC : Edena, mail incoming) Posts: 345 | From: Montpellier, France | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member Member # 1235 posted December 05, 2001 03:42 AM The Gnomish ambassador replies: We were thinking of joining the Technocracy, or at the least allying with it. But, we are not by Elysium going to allow our people to be tried in a foreign - or, world, or spherian, or whatever - court, and executed for crimes they did not commit. If that is the price of joining the Technocracy, or the price of your alliance, we will reject the Technocracy. However, I once more would like to say with urgency that the gnomes DO support the idea of the demoncratic technocracy, we WOULD be happy to throw our support - both culturally and militarily - to their side, and we believe that the collective strength of the Technocracy would lead to mutual security and peace (The Dwarven ambassador mutters: peace in strength). We have offered to resurrect this man's son, and to pay a huge indemnity in gold for his losses, and that is sufficient reparation. We are a just people, the gnomes, and we are offering restitution to the wronged. We will not, however, tolerate institutionalized injustice against us. The choice is yours. - - - Upon hearing the Technocratic Representative announce that many (if not most) of the humanoids will not be allowed into the Technocracy, most of the Chosen sigh in exasperation. But there is nothing they can do about it, and they have to answer yet another accusation directed against THEM: Laeral steps aside, and Alustriel, who alone among the Chosen has remained totally calm and serene, speaks, in her quiet, gentle voice: We acknowledge the mistakes we have made. We have said there were consequences, and that we would be required to answer for all our deeds. Such is the responsibility of power, and we accept the responsibility. If Toril dies, we will not. Upon it's dead surface will we walk, and we shall not be alive, but shall exist in undeath. Not the peaceful undeath of the Watchnorn, but the tortured undeath of the spectre. For the Weave will be forever ruined, and as the Weave is ruined, so will we be ruined. And we shall remain that way, for all eternity, until the Sun itself finally expands and burns red in the sky, and finally our suffering is ended in it's purifying flames. That is the price of our failure, should you choose to destroy yourselves, and with yourselves the world of Toril. We are not the Makers, or the Overseers of the Planes. We are bound by the dictates of the Gods as truly as you are, and Kelemvor's Wall awaits us if we are unfaithful truely - although that would be a mild punishment compared to the wrath of Mystra. We cannot force you to accept a patron diety; all we can accomplish is to educate you concerning the realities of the Afterlife you face, then allow you to make your own choices. Indeed, we have striven to educate, and to encourage self teaching, and thus to bring empowerment and enlightenment, amongst all the races, and allowed them to choose their own ways. As much as was possible within the dictates of Mystra. Thus, we permitted the Gnomish inventions, and we permitted the elvish retribution - we were NOT actively aiding the saboteurs, nor did we condone their actions; we simply did not interfere - and we did not interfere with the gnome counter-retribution. We are not guilty in the Making of the Seven Year War; unless it were that we did not exercise our power to stop it, and thus reduce the free races to chattel under our rule. You must accept the responsibility for yourselves, your actions, and the consequences. In so doing, you will find the answers you seek, and you will bring redemption to both yourselves and us in so doing. Posts: 1566 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged [/QUOTE]

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