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<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 1304752" data-attributes="member: 2020">(Post 23) The Second IRForrester &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 2760 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 05, 2001 09:07 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; quote:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Originally posted by Reprisal:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;Also, I am sad to inform Lord Forrester that all parties in our Commonwealth Chamber&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; and nearly seventy-five percent of the states in the Commonwealth Senate are&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; opposed to the Humanoid Alliance joining, in its entirety, the Technocracy. This is not to&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; say I am opposed, but at this juncture, I am utterly out-voted. They speak of several&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; concerns: (1) the huge economic investment in such an endeavour may be too costly in&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; comparison to the benefits, (2) several of the member nations and a big percentage of&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; all the other member races, even the humanoids themselves, are opposed to the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Humanoid Alliance's population usurping their voices in the primary legislative house,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the Commonwealth Chamber... Many of them fear that the Humanoid Alliance will&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; simply conquer the Commonwealth by virtue of assimilation on a social and cultural&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; level.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;That being said, we are will to enter into an agreement of sorts on the political and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; economic level. When I suggested such a project, there was still some opposition&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; because such an organization is not in the interest of internationalism. What I believe&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; is that we should focus on establishing a set of rules and regulations pertaining to the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; entire international stage, in other words the World Council Organization, before we&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; start thinking of other InterGovernmental Organizations (IGOs).&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester turns, and spits.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I see. So that is how it is to be, then? You propose to innocently unite all of the smaller nations under&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; you, increasing your power and your population, but you refuse to join with the force that saved your&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; sorry asses -- not to mention the Toril itself -- a mere 40 years ago? &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Do you recall that without us, your Technomancy would be nothing but piles of rusted iron by now,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; danced upon by merry little elves, morning, noon, and night? &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Most of the half-billion people of Toril are still living in the Medieval age. Many are probably still&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; digging out of the rubble caused when the Queen had her little hissy-fit as Evermeet plunged into the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ocean. If the Technomancy TRULY wanted the Humanoids in the Commonwealth, they would leverage&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; their great power and convince these poor nations into accepting our entrance. For a multitude of&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; reasons, these nations would do much better in a Commonwealth dominated by Humanoids than in no&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Commonwealth at all. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; And my people do not demand proportional representation at every level, Reprisal. Simply&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; proportional representation at some levels, in all branches. I think that this is more than fair, and in&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; keeping with these ideals you speak of. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; After all, it is not as though our cultures are SO dissimilar at this point . . . we have worked and fought&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; together for almost half a century. We both rely on technological marvels to make our lives easier,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; healthier, better. We have much more in common than, say, the Technomancy does with the dwarves.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I honestly do not understand what it is you fear! Please, please assure me that it is not simple racism&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; that causes you to act in this way! &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Of course, if you wish us to continue a completely independent force, we will be quite happy with that&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; alternative as well. You will have little say in when and whether we declare War, but I'm sure that that&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; is something you care little about. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Peacemaker &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 699 | Registered: Mar 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp; All times are US Central Time &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; This topic is comprised of pages:&nbsp; 1&nbsp; 2&nbsp; 3&nbsp; 4&nbsp; 5&nbsp; 6&nbsp; 7&nbsp; 8&nbsp; 9&nbsp; 10&nbsp; 11&nbsp; 12&nbsp; 13&nbsp; 14&nbsp; 15&nbsp; 16&nbsp; 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&nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 2760 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 05, 2001 09:12 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Finally, I would like to assure the representative of the Technomancy that were the Humanoids allowed&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; in the Commonwealth, we would not use our power to do anything nifty like make elves our slaves,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; etc. As we would feel much more secure from attack, the speed at which we started to get along with&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the elfies would probably be accelerated noticeably. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; But the ball is in your court . . . &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Peacemaker&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [Signing out until this evening]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [ December 05, 2001: Message edited by: Forrester ]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 699 | Registered: Mar 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Aloïsius &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 2977 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 05, 2001 09:52 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;Another problem settled, now that Forrester, whatever is lack of distinction, has accepted the peace&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; offer of Queen Amlaruil ! Yes, reread what he said if you don't believe. Now, next stage : the deep&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; illithids. what do you propose ?&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Hazedil joins Moriartty : &quot;I have a question for you, Sir. You just stated that the measures&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; envisaged by your clients are directed against any who will use doomsday weapon, and then try to slip&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; off Toril at the last second. As I said, I seriously doubt you have this power : Your Lady of Pain, Sigil&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; and its factions does not exist for us : you belong to another cosmology, and only through the plane&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; of Shadow could you reach Toril. But that's not the subject of my question : as I said, we don't even&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; envisage to participate in a new war, and we don't have doomsday weapon. I mean, we don't plan to&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; use the one we have, whatever happen. Will you try to block us ? Will you try to prevent us to save&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Toril ? Will you act in such a way that will cause the creation of vortex of nothingness, a cancer&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; spreading through the shadow plane that will swallow the other cosmology, especially the Greyhawk&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; one's who is so close that three faction (at least) of this world are puting their nose in our affairs (Iuz,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the Slaads form Limbo and the Sigilian) ? I'm just curious.&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Hazedil wait for a reply, then his mobile phone rings &quot;Hello...Yes... He has cast Legend Lore ? Aha...&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; And, has the subject returned ? OK. Must I say this to... Now ? ...No problem.&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;By the way, your son has been resurected. Will you speak to him ?&quot; Hazedil hands his phone to&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Moriartty. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 345 | From: Montpellier, France | Registered: Mar 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; DocMoriartty &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 8593 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 05, 2001 10:00 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Moriartty is visibly shaken by the offer and takes the &quot;phone&quot; to speak for several moments. After this&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; he takes a long deep breath and looks around the room.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;I thank the church of Lathander for this action. It does not though undo the action itself. A thief is still&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; a thief even when someone else returns or pays for all the lost goods. A murderer is still a murderer&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; even if the victim is returned. Returning my son does nothing for all the other poeple killed by the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Gnomes that day. The warrants for their arrest will remain. I do again thank you for your generosity.&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;To answer your other question. The factions and the Sharn will do nothing to impede rebuilding or&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; restoration of life on this world. Assuming of course that (ooc comment) you are not planning on using&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; some sort of Genesis Device&nbsp; to do this.&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;In fact I myself as well as the Sharn would be will to help in the rebuilding of Toril. The Factions&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; though could care less and are only interested in any spreading doomsday.&quot; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 135 | From: Chicago burbs | Registered: Nov 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Estlor &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 62 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 05, 2001 10:07 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Estlor stops and ponders something, having a sudden realization.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Let the Weave die.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Indeed, let it die, remove it from out midst. The Weave exists as nothing more than a yoke of slavery&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; cast over us by the original Mystra and retained by this new one in order to assure she constantly has&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;subject&quot; to serve her.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I contest that magic is not within some dramatic force around us, but within us ourselves. We can feel&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; it. We can see it. Touch, taste, smell - we are the magic of Toril. If the Weave dies and the gods&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; leave, what do we lose?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Clerics are no more. The advances of the Technocratic nations have developed medical processes that&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; can regenerate limbs, cure illnesses, and remove pain. Their doctors have lessened the need for&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; posturing priests that heed the orders of their puppeteer gods. By Alix, the gods have even convinced&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the druids that they owe their power to divine intervention. An excellent ruse, one which I give full&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; credit to Meiliki for. The druids represent a pure faith, one in the land. Power from the land, not from&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the heavens. They will be our healers in the coming age.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Sorcerers prove that studying and learning the Weave is not as important as studying and learning&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; yourself. Attuning with the strength of person is magic in itself. In this way they are not so different&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; from the psions. It is they who will be the mages of the future. Their art will expand and cover what the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; arcane once held dear.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We need no Weave, as we need no gods. Lathander has provided nothing to anyone in this place.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Raised your family? Bah, your family never died. They lived on in you. All Lathander has done is&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; provide a crutch to a child who cannot learn to grow up and live in the adult world. Do you think the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; devistation does not pain me? I weep knowing that I once commanded a force strong enough to crush&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester but chose to seek peace. I live knowing that the death of the elves and the destruction of&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the world is my fault. Do not pretend to think any of you have suffered worse than I these past&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; decades. But my pain has taught me something. Gods cannot heal pain. They cannot remove&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; suffering. All they can do is put a new coat of paint over things and pretend everything is all right and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; fine because they are around.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The only people on Toril that can heal pain and stop suffering are the mortals. We are the ones that&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; must make the choices here. We must foreswear these gods and fiends and angels and other&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; outsiders in our midst and solve this problem on our own terms.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Peace is not something that will be handed to you on a silver platter or forced down your throat like&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; unwanted vegetables. Peace is something that the just fight for in the hopes that no more soldiers will&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; be needed.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Estlor turns to face the shade of the elven queen&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I say to you that your elven soldiers in their precious fleet are not welcome here! We no longer need&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; soldiers whose only intent is to cause more suffering and more war. Have you learned nothing from&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; your defeat and death? Foolish stubborness and clinging to old ways will only bring about more death,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; more soldiers, and more war. You offer a &quot;surrender&quot; and a &quot;repentance&quot; but cover it with thinly veiled&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; threats of more violence. I detest Forrester, but can you honestly claim you do not understand why he&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; refuses to work with you? Are you blind? You would be fortunate if the people in this room do not take&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the war you promise to the wildspace to destroy your fleet before it even reaches Toril. Send your&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; precious fleet away, &quot;queen,&quot; and go back to your grave where you belong. You have earned your&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; death by your actions here alone.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Estlor turns his back to the queen, henceforth refusing to acknowledge her.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester, you and I are soldiers. We know only how to fight and kill. I tip my hat to you as it seems&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; you are the more proficient. Is it not time for us to step aside and turn over the world to those who&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; love peace? We no nothing of peace or peacemaking, only of hatred, war, and bitterness. Our time&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; has passed. Our involvement - and by this I mean everyone in this room, not just Forrester and I - in&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; these negotiations limits things. The time for war is ended. Now is the time for the Toril Sphere Unified&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Nation.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Estlor turns back to the Chosen&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; But I assure you, I would rather witness Forrester's kind and the elven fleet demolish this world than&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; live on under your vision of tomorrow. You taunt us by saying you will live on in undeath with nothing&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; but sadness. Your power has made you mad. When we die, you will as well. See, the gods never told&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the mortals that, in a sense, we created them. With no one to worship a god, how can they be a god?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; They cannont. They cease to exist. If we die, you die. But, we have the power to disbelieve. Then we&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; live, and you do not.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; If this were still a trial, then I say this: I am guilty. I was the one that first led the elves and druids&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; into this war against technology. My close-minded views of the good of the future sparked a war that&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; was unnecessary. Later when I brought the fey and the dragons into things, I held a power that could&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; have ended the war. I chose not to use it, believing in the ability to sue for peace. As a result,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Evermeet lies in ruin and much of Toril is destroyed. All that you see and will see is the fault of none&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; but myself. I accept any punishment that may come. But in accepting this, I beseech all those present&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; to ignore the wishes and voices of those not of Toril and to put aside the hatred and malcontent I&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; have sewn to build a peace-loving world where all creatures believe and exist for the better of Toril as&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; a whole.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Do this in spite of, not because of, the Chosen. Do this for yourselves.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Or do not do it. The choice is OURS to make. Ignore the Chosen and do what your hearts tell you, but&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; whatever you do, do not do it lightly. This will be the test of whether we as mortals can stand as adults&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; without the coddling of the gods.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; --------------------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Lighthouse Webmaster&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;More conversions, less talk.&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 514 | Registered: Dec 2000&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; zouron &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 3707 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 05, 2001 11:13 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; *zouron chuckles*&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; slaadi you might suddenly realize nothing gather us more quickly then a alien nation or force or even&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; more trying to itnerfere, and you will see that your chaos weave will suddenly not be so powerful, for if&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; you bring it here, I assure you we will strike back in YOUR home. so leave us be. same goes the the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;siglings&quot; get lost!&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; and I am sure a few more of those here, including the representive of the elven fleet of vengence this&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; former queen of the leves of toril is not really welcome until she call of this unwanted force.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; *zouron smirks*&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Now I don't like violance, but as I see it, it seems we are being forced into it as we speak with petty&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; treats from beyond our home, yes our!&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; can we all technocracy, phaerimm, humanoids and so on other natives, including mystara elves agree&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; that we do not need this outside intervention?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; --------------------&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Alone is something we all are&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; only far away voices breaks the silence&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; whom wish to escape&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; this labyrinth of loneliness&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; we fumble our way, but finds nothing&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; because here are no walls&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; only the fear's angst&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; keeps us apart&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 158 | From: Hvidovre, Denmark | Registered: Apr 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; DocMoriartty &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 8593 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 05, 2001 11:28 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;My clients care not what one who keeps walking carrion thinks. So keep your feeble smirks to&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; yourself.&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; quote:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Originally posted by zouron:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; *zouron chuckles*&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; slaadi you might suddenly realize nothing gather us more quickly then a alien nation or&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; force or even more trying to itnerfere, and you will see that your chaos weave will&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; suddenly not be so powerful, for if you bring it here, I assure you we will strike back in&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; YOUR home. so leave us be. same goes the the &quot;siglings&quot; get lost!&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; and I am sure a few more of those here, including the representive of the elven fleet of&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; vengence this former queen of the leves of toril is not really welcome until she call of&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; this unwanted force.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; *zouron smirks*&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Now I don't like violance, but as I see it, it seems we are being forced into it as we&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; speak with petty treats from beyond our home, yes our!&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; can we all technocracy, phaerimm, humanoids and so on other natives, including&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; mystara elves agree that we do not need this outside intervention?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 135 | From: Chicago burbs | Registered: Nov 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Aloïsius &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 2977 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 05, 2001 11:37 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;Sadly, some here are blinded by ignorance. Hear the tragic story of faerun before saying anything&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; else. Especially YOU Estlor.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I will try to be as brief as possible.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1)Creation of the World : &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; -Lord Ao created the universe that now holds the world of Toril.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; -From the primal shadowy essence emerge two beautiful twin godess : Selune and Shar. The two&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; godess created the bodies of the even, giving life to Chauntea, the embodiment of the world Toril.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; -Chauntea begged for warmth so that she can nurture life, and the twin godess disagreed. Selune&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; created the Sun. And Shar enraged attacked her sister. From the war between light and darkness,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Mystryl and the weave were created, as well as many other gods.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 2)The creator races&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; While the deities battled, many intelligent being arose on Toril. The five greatest race are called the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Creator Races. They were :&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; -a Saurian race, who built a short lived civilization. Its survivors are the Naga, Lizardfolks and similar&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; creatures.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; -The Dragons, who ruled supreme for century&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; -An aquatic race of shapechangers, whose survivors are the Locathah and the doppelganger&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; -The sylvan people, who survive until the modern day as the Fey.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; -Last, and, for a long time, least, the humans are the only one who have keep their integrity and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; survive unchanged until now.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 3)The first flowering&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; In this time of magic, the creator races discovered planar travel. Through the open portals came&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; natives of other worlds : Dwarves, Elves, mind flayers, in that order. Other races appeared, either by&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; crossbreeding, planar travel or transformation by magic.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Sharns and Phaerimms appeared during this time, birthed by the primal energy of the Weave.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 4)the crown wars&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; after having took the supremacy held by the dragons, the elves destroy themselves, leaving the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; leadership to humankind&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 5)Netheril&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; a small group of human, after learning the bases of magic through the elves, uncover the Nether&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Scrolls, an set of artefact created by one of the creator races. They build the most powerful magic&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; empire known : Netheril. But a conflict with the Phaerimms, and the foly of Karsus caused its&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; destruction, as well as the death of Mystryl, who however give birth to Mystra.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 6)The Immaskari&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; In the same time, another powerful human magic empire use planar travel to gather slaves. It is&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; destroyed by the gods of these slaves. Later, these slaves created the Old Empire (Mulhorand...). And&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; later, one of their wizard open a gate to the homeworld of the orcs, who invade Toril.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 7)The Time of Trouble&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Three gods, who were mere mortals before rising to godhood, rebel against Ao. The ensuing disaster&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; is know as the Time of Trouble. Since this time, the power of the gods depend strictly of the number of&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; their followers, by Ao decree. This WAS NOT the case before, Estlor.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 8)The seven years wars : I won't tell it, it is too sad.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 9)Now : ? I hope this is not the end of the story&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [ December 05, 2001: Message edited by: Aloïsius ]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 345 | From: Montpellier, France | Registered: Mar 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 1304752, member: 2020"] [b](Post 23) The Second IR[/b] Forrester Member Member # 2760 posted December 05, 2001 09:07 AM quote: Originally posted by Reprisal: "Also, I am sad to inform Lord Forrester that all parties in our Commonwealth Chamber and nearly seventy-five percent of the states in the Commonwealth Senate are opposed to the Humanoid Alliance joining, in its entirety, the Technocracy. This is not to say I am opposed, but at this juncture, I am utterly out-voted. They speak of several concerns: (1) the huge economic investment in such an endeavour may be too costly in comparison to the benefits, (2) several of the member nations and a big percentage of all the other member races, even the humanoids themselves, are opposed to the Humanoid Alliance's population usurping their voices in the primary legislative house, the Commonwealth Chamber... Many of them fear that the Humanoid Alliance will simply conquer the Commonwealth by virtue of assimilation on a social and cultural level. "That being said, we are will to enter into an agreement of sorts on the political and economic level. When I suggested such a project, there was still some opposition because such an organization is not in the interest of internationalism. What I believe is that we should focus on establishing a set of rules and regulations pertaining to the entire international stage, in other words the World Council Organization, before we start thinking of other InterGovernmental Organizations (IGOs)." Forrester turns, and spits. I see. So that is how it is to be, then? You propose to innocently unite all of the smaller nations under you, increasing your power and your population, but you refuse to join with the force that saved your sorry asses -- not to mention the Toril itself -- a mere 40 years ago? Do you recall that without us, your Technomancy would be nothing but piles of rusted iron by now, danced upon by merry little elves, morning, noon, and night? Most of the half-billion people of Toril are still living in the Medieval age. Many are probably still digging out of the rubble caused when the Queen had her little hissy-fit as Evermeet plunged into the ocean. If the Technomancy TRULY wanted the Humanoids in the Commonwealth, they would leverage their great power and convince these poor nations into accepting our entrance. For a multitude of reasons, these nations would do much better in a Commonwealth dominated by Humanoids than in no Commonwealth at all. And my people do not demand proportional representation at every level, Reprisal. Simply proportional representation at some levels, in all branches. I think that this is more than fair, and in keeping with these ideals you speak of. After all, it is not as though our cultures are SO dissimilar at this point . . . we have worked and fought together for almost half a century. We both rely on technological marvels to make our lives easier, healthier, better. We have much more in common than, say, the Technomancy does with the dwarves. I honestly do not understand what it is you fear! Please, please assure me that it is not simple racism that causes you to act in this way! Of course, if you wish us to continue a completely independent force, we will be quite happy with that alternative as well. You will have little say in when and whether we declare War, but I'm sure that that is something you care little about. Forrester Peacemaker Posts: 699 | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged All times are US Central Time This topic is comprised of pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 Hop To: Contact Us | EN World - D&D/d20 News & Reviews Powered by Infopop Corporation Ultimate Bulletin BoardTM 6.1.0.3 my profile | register | search | faq | forum home » Hello, Edena_of_Neith [ log out ] EN World Messageboards » Bits N Pieces » In Character » (IR) All involved in the Gnomish IR: You are summoned by the Chosen to face charges (Page 12) This topic is comprised of pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 Author Topic: (IR) All involved in the Gnomish IR: You are summoned by the Chosen to face charges Forrester Member Member # 2760 posted December 05, 2001 09:12 AM Finally, I would like to assure the representative of the Technomancy that were the Humanoids allowed in the Commonwealth, we would not use our power to do anything nifty like make elves our slaves, etc. As we would feel much more secure from attack, the speed at which we started to get along with the elfies would probably be accelerated noticeably. But the ball is in your court . . . Forrester Peacemaker [Signing out until this evening] [ December 05, 2001: Message edited by: Forrester ] Posts: 699 | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged Aloïsius Member Member # 2977 posted December 05, 2001 09:52 AM "Another problem settled, now that Forrester, whatever is lack of distinction, has accepted the peace offer of Queen Amlaruil ! Yes, reread what he said if you don't believe. Now, next stage : the deep illithids. what do you propose ?" The Hazedil joins Moriartty : "I have a question for you, Sir. You just stated that the measures envisaged by your clients are directed against any who will use doomsday weapon, and then try to slip off Toril at the last second. As I said, I seriously doubt you have this power : Your Lady of Pain, Sigil and its factions does not exist for us : you belong to another cosmology, and only through the plane of Shadow could you reach Toril. But that's not the subject of my question : as I said, we don't even envisage to participate in a new war, and we don't have doomsday weapon. I mean, we don't plan to use the one we have, whatever happen. Will you try to block us ? Will you try to prevent us to save Toril ? Will you act in such a way that will cause the creation of vortex of nothingness, a cancer spreading through the shadow plane that will swallow the other cosmology, especially the Greyhawk one's who is so close that three faction (at least) of this world are puting their nose in our affairs (Iuz, the Slaads form Limbo and the Sigilian) ? I'm just curious." Hazedil wait for a reply, then his mobile phone rings "Hello...Yes... He has cast Legend Lore ? Aha... And, has the subject returned ? OK. Must I say this to... Now ? ...No problem." "By the way, your son has been resurected. Will you speak to him ?" Hazedil hands his phone to Moriartty. Posts: 345 | From: Montpellier, France | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged DocMoriartty Member Member # 8593 posted December 05, 2001 10:00 AM Moriartty is visibly shaken by the offer and takes the "phone" to speak for several moments. After this he takes a long deep breath and looks around the room. "I thank the church of Lathander for this action. It does not though undo the action itself. A thief is still a thief even when someone else returns or pays for all the lost goods. A murderer is still a murderer even if the victim is returned. Returning my son does nothing for all the other poeple killed by the Gnomes that day. The warrants for their arrest will remain. I do again thank you for your generosity." "To answer your other question. The factions and the Sharn will do nothing to impede rebuilding or restoration of life on this world. Assuming of course that (ooc comment) you are not planning on using some sort of Genesis Device to do this." "In fact I myself as well as the Sharn would be will to help in the rebuilding of Toril. The Factions though could care less and are only interested in any spreading doomsday." Posts: 135 | From: Chicago burbs | Registered: Nov 2001 | IP: Logged Estlor Member Member # 62 posted December 05, 2001 10:07 AM Estlor stops and ponders something, having a sudden realization. Let the Weave die. Indeed, let it die, remove it from out midst. The Weave exists as nothing more than a yoke of slavery cast over us by the original Mystra and retained by this new one in order to assure she constantly has "subject" to serve her. I contest that magic is not within some dramatic force around us, but within us ourselves. We can feel it. We can see it. Touch, taste, smell - we are the magic of Toril. If the Weave dies and the gods leave, what do we lose? Clerics are no more. The advances of the Technocratic nations have developed medical processes that can regenerate limbs, cure illnesses, and remove pain. Their doctors have lessened the need for posturing priests that heed the orders of their puppeteer gods. By Alix, the gods have even convinced the druids that they owe their power to divine intervention. An excellent ruse, one which I give full credit to Meiliki for. The druids represent a pure faith, one in the land. Power from the land, not from the heavens. They will be our healers in the coming age. Sorcerers prove that studying and learning the Weave is not as important as studying and learning yourself. Attuning with the strength of person is magic in itself. In this way they are not so different from the psions. It is they who will be the mages of the future. Their art will expand and cover what the arcane once held dear. We need no Weave, as we need no gods. Lathander has provided nothing to anyone in this place. Raised your family? Bah, your family never died. They lived on in you. All Lathander has done is provide a crutch to a child who cannot learn to grow up and live in the adult world. Do you think the devistation does not pain me? I weep knowing that I once commanded a force strong enough to crush Forrester but chose to seek peace. I live knowing that the death of the elves and the destruction of the world is my fault. Do not pretend to think any of you have suffered worse than I these past decades. But my pain has taught me something. Gods cannot heal pain. They cannot remove suffering. All they can do is put a new coat of paint over things and pretend everything is all right and fine because they are around. The only people on Toril that can heal pain and stop suffering are the mortals. We are the ones that must make the choices here. We must foreswear these gods and fiends and angels and other outsiders in our midst and solve this problem on our own terms. Peace is not something that will be handed to you on a silver platter or forced down your throat like unwanted vegetables. Peace is something that the just fight for in the hopes that no more soldiers will be needed. Estlor turns to face the shade of the elven queen I say to you that your elven soldiers in their precious fleet are not welcome here! We no longer need soldiers whose only intent is to cause more suffering and more war. Have you learned nothing from your defeat and death? Foolish stubborness and clinging to old ways will only bring about more death, more soldiers, and more war. You offer a "surrender" and a "repentance" but cover it with thinly veiled threats of more violence. I detest Forrester, but can you honestly claim you do not understand why he refuses to work with you? Are you blind? You would be fortunate if the people in this room do not take the war you promise to the wildspace to destroy your fleet before it even reaches Toril. Send your precious fleet away, "queen," and go back to your grave where you belong. You have earned your death by your actions here alone. Estlor turns his back to the queen, henceforth refusing to acknowledge her. Forrester, you and I are soldiers. We know only how to fight and kill. I tip my hat to you as it seems you are the more proficient. Is it not time for us to step aside and turn over the world to those who love peace? We no nothing of peace or peacemaking, only of hatred, war, and bitterness. Our time has passed. Our involvement - and by this I mean everyone in this room, not just Forrester and I - in these negotiations limits things. The time for war is ended. Now is the time for the Toril Sphere Unified Nation. Estlor turns back to the Chosen But I assure you, I would rather witness Forrester's kind and the elven fleet demolish this world than live on under your vision of tomorrow. You taunt us by saying you will live on in undeath with nothing but sadness. Your power has made you mad. When we die, you will as well. See, the gods never told the mortals that, in a sense, we created them. With no one to worship a god, how can they be a god? They cannont. They cease to exist. If we die, you die. But, we have the power to disbelieve. Then we live, and you do not. If this were still a trial, then I say this: I am guilty. I was the one that first led the elves and druids into this war against technology. My close-minded views of the good of the future sparked a war that was unnecessary. Later when I brought the fey and the dragons into things, I held a power that could have ended the war. I chose not to use it, believing in the ability to sue for peace. As a result, Evermeet lies in ruin and much of Toril is destroyed. All that you see and will see is the fault of none but myself. I accept any punishment that may come. But in accepting this, I beseech all those present to ignore the wishes and voices of those not of Toril and to put aside the hatred and malcontent I have sewn to build a peace-loving world where all creatures believe and exist for the better of Toril as a whole. Do this in spite of, not because of, the Chosen. Do this for yourselves. Or do not do it. The choice is OURS to make. Ignore the Chosen and do what your hearts tell you, but whatever you do, do not do it lightly. This will be the test of whether we as mortals can stand as adults without the coddling of the gods. -------------------- The Lighthouse Webmaster "More conversions, less talk." Posts: 514 | Registered: Dec 2000 | IP: Logged zouron Member Member # 3707 posted December 05, 2001 11:13 AM *zouron chuckles* slaadi you might suddenly realize nothing gather us more quickly then a alien nation or force or even more trying to itnerfere, and you will see that your chaos weave will suddenly not be so powerful, for if you bring it here, I assure you we will strike back in YOUR home. so leave us be. same goes the the "siglings" get lost! and I am sure a few more of those here, including the representive of the elven fleet of vengence this former queen of the leves of toril is not really welcome until she call of this unwanted force. *zouron smirks* Now I don't like violance, but as I see it, it seems we are being forced into it as we speak with petty treats from beyond our home, yes our! can we all technocracy, phaerimm, humanoids and so on other natives, including mystara elves agree that we do not need this outside intervention? -------------------- Alone is something we all are only far away voices breaks the silence whom wish to escape this labyrinth of loneliness we fumble our way, but finds nothing because here are no walls only the fear's angst keeps us apart Posts: 158 | From: Hvidovre, Denmark | Registered: Apr 2001 | IP: Logged DocMoriartty Member Member # 8593 posted December 05, 2001 11:28 AM "My clients care not what one who keeps walking carrion thinks. So keep your feeble smirks to yourself." quote: Originally posted by zouron: *zouron chuckles* slaadi you might suddenly realize nothing gather us more quickly then a alien nation or force or even more trying to itnerfere, and you will see that your chaos weave will suddenly not be so powerful, for if you bring it here, I assure you we will strike back in YOUR home. so leave us be. same goes the the "siglings" get lost! and I am sure a few more of those here, including the representive of the elven fleet of vengence this former queen of the leves of toril is not really welcome until she call of this unwanted force. *zouron smirks* Now I don't like violance, but as I see it, it seems we are being forced into it as we speak with petty treats from beyond our home, yes our! can we all technocracy, phaerimm, humanoids and so on other natives, including mystara elves agree that we do not need this outside intervention? Posts: 135 | From: Chicago burbs | Registered: Nov 2001 | IP: Logged Aloïsius Member Member # 2977 posted December 05, 2001 11:37 AM "Sadly, some here are blinded by ignorance. Hear the tragic story of faerun before saying anything else. Especially YOU Estlor. I will try to be as brief as possible. 1)Creation of the World : -Lord Ao created the universe that now holds the world of Toril. -From the primal shadowy essence emerge two beautiful twin godess : Selune and Shar. The two godess created the bodies of the even, giving life to Chauntea, the embodiment of the world Toril. -Chauntea begged for warmth so that she can nurture life, and the twin godess disagreed. Selune created the Sun. And Shar enraged attacked her sister. From the war between light and darkness, Mystryl and the weave were created, as well as many other gods. 2)The creator races While the deities battled, many intelligent being arose on Toril. The five greatest race are called the Creator Races. They were : -a Saurian race, who built a short lived civilization. Its survivors are the Naga, Lizardfolks and similar creatures. -The Dragons, who ruled supreme for century -An aquatic race of shapechangers, whose survivors are the Locathah and the doppelganger -The sylvan people, who survive until the modern day as the Fey. -Last, and, for a long time, least, the humans are the only one who have keep their integrity and survive unchanged until now. 3)The first flowering In this time of magic, the creator races discovered planar travel. Through the open portals came natives of other worlds : Dwarves, Elves, mind flayers, in that order. Other races appeared, either by crossbreeding, planar travel or transformation by magic. Sharns and Phaerimms appeared during this time, birthed by the primal energy of the Weave. 4)the crown wars after having took the supremacy held by the dragons, the elves destroy themselves, leaving the leadership to humankind 5)Netheril a small group of human, after learning the bases of magic through the elves, uncover the Nether Scrolls, an set of artefact created by one of the creator races. They build the most powerful magic empire known : Netheril. But a conflict with the Phaerimms, and the foly of Karsus caused its destruction, as well as the death of Mystryl, who however give birth to Mystra. 6)The Immaskari In the same time, another powerful human magic empire use planar travel to gather slaves. It is destroyed by the gods of these slaves. Later, these slaves created the Old Empire (Mulhorand...). And later, one of their wizard open a gate to the homeworld of the orcs, who invade Toril. 7)The Time of Trouble Three gods, who were mere mortals before rising to godhood, rebel against Ao. The ensuing disaster is know as the Time of Trouble. Since this time, the power of the gods depend strictly of the number of their followers, by Ao decree. This WAS NOT the case before, Estlor. 8)The seven years wars : I won't tell it, it is too sad. 9)Now : ? I hope this is not the end of the story" [ December 05, 2001: Message edited by: Aloïsius ] Posts: 345 | From: Montpellier, France | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged [/QUOTE]

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