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<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 1304755" data-attributes="member: 2020"><p><strong>(Post 26) The Second IR</strong></p><p></p><p>Riot Gear </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 202 </p><p> posted December 05, 2001 08:37 PM </p><p></p><p> The Eladrin stands, stunned by this revelation.</p><p></p><p> "Although I would have prevented this if I know how, I'm afraid... I could not. I have failed you."</p><p></p><p> His eyes seem to glow.</p><p></p><p> "But I will not - will NOT - Allow this mockery of justice the elves call Vengeance to take place."</p><p></p><p> He stands, his face flashing holy fire.</p><p></p><p> "I will delay the elven fleets. I won't be coming back. And I SWEAR, you WILL find enough peace</p><p> between yourself to survive their assault, or I will haunt you all to your graves."</p><p></p><p> He vanishes in a cataclysmic burst of light as he moves to intercept the fleets.</p><p></p><p> OOC: Edena, my Character is a Deva Ftr20/Clr (Good, Chaos)10 with feats geared toward diplomacy</p><p> and thwomping evil. His first manauver will be to attempt parley in regards towards getting them to not</p><p> level people who aren't Humanoids, so that Toril can form a more focused defense. If they refuse</p><p> parley or attempt to kill him, he breaks as much stuff as he can before retreating. He will cause as</p><p> much damage as he can.</p><p></p><p> --------------------</p><p></p><p> -------</p><p></p><p> I love maces, I really do. That crunch noise is just SO satisfying, and the flying shards of bloody bone</p><p> - Well, that's just icing on the cake. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 1574 | Registered: Dec 2000 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> DocMoriartty </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 8593 </p><p> posted December 05, 2001 08:39 PM </p><p></p><p> Moriartty looks up at the suggestion given.</p><p></p><p> "How do you plan on putting the genie back in the bottle? Once they are done with the elven fleet the</p><p> Elder races may turn around and come here. Or they may just go on a destructive rampage across the</p><p> universe. We may only buy ourselves a little bit of time before Toril joins it. My clients in Sigil may</p><p> survive but I doubt the Lady of Pain will allow any of us in if we willingly let the Elder Races free."</p><p></p><p> "Besides, even if the Elder Races only destroyed the elven fleet we would have made enemies of every</p><p> elf in the multiverse. There would never be peace here again."</p><p></p><p> quote:</p><p></p><p> Originally posted by Edena_of_Neith:</p><p> The Netherese ambassador regards the Sharn, who were effectively allies of the</p><p> Netherese during the Shadowed Years, and he then stands and speaks in a strong</p><p> voice:</p><p></p><p> The Netherese Empire stands firm with the Sharn and the Sigilian mages.</p><p> We will work together with them to seal Realmspace, so that the Elven Fleets of</p><p> Vengeance cannot enter, either via Planar Travel or by Portals in the Crystal Sphere.</p><p></p><p> We request the cooperation of the Slaadi in this endeavor, since they are holding open</p><p> the Gates by force, and we cannot seal Realmspace without their help.</p><p></p><p> We request to the Phaerimm that they join us in sealing Realmspace, to protect the</p><p> planet we both cherish.</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> The phaerimm ambassador raises an eyebrow (or, at least, the phaerimm equivalent)</p><p> then speaks:</p><p></p><p> Why not simply unleash the Elder Ones upon their fleets, in the places where they now</p><p> assemble?</p><p> This would destroy not only their fleets, but the bases they are housed out of, and</p><p> those worlds giving succor to these elves would be punished for their actions.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 135 | From: Chicago burbs | Registered: Nov 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 1235 </p><p> posted December 05, 2001 08:39 PM </p><p></p><p> The departure of the Eladrin against the Elven Fleets of Vengeance is an Act of War.</p><p></p><p> The phaerimm immediately state they will travel to aid the eladrin in crushing the elves, IF the other</p><p> powers at this conference will also go with them.</p><p></p><p> The City of Shade immediately agrees to ally with the phaerimm, and go after the elven fleets.</p><p></p><p> Your answer?</p><p></p><p> [ December 05, 2001: Message edited by: Edena_of_Neith ]</p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 1566 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 1235 </p><p> posted December 05, 2001 08:42 PM </p><p></p><p> (Ah, sorry - Moriarrty - I changed the thread as the phaerimm agreed with you)</p><p></p><p> The phaerimm ambassador and the ambassador of the City of Shade move to stand (and float) next</p><p> to each other, and they say:</p><p></p><p> We unite for Toril.</p><p> We will aid the Eladrin against the Elven Fleet of Vengeance.</p><p> We ask everyone else to help us.</p><p> We believe that those who refuse to help us now, are not worthy of being considered in future</p><p> negotiations.</p><p> For the fate of the world is being decided now.</p><p></p><p> Who will join us?</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> Even as the phaerimm and City of Shade ambassador await the reply, the Eladrin reaches the first of</p><p> the Fleets of Vengeance.</p><p> The elves will not negotiate, so I assume the Eladrin attacks.</p><p></p><p> However, powerful as he is, a single Eladrin is not a match for a small army of mages, and the Eladrin</p><p> is beaten back, bloodied, after destroying only one Spelljamming Ship.</p><p> The eladrin has the option to attempt to open a Gate to Arborea and summon his kindred, but if he</p><p> does, the elves will summon their kindred also from Arborea.</p><p></p><p> [ December 05, 2001: Message edited by: Edena_of_Neith ]</p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 1566 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Semirhage </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 8099 </p><p> posted December 05, 2001 08:50 PM </p><p></p><p> Valkys addresses the assembly, "A world government might be a possibility later on, but it seems to</p><p> be you are planning a bit far into the future. Don't count your dragons before they're hatched.</p><p></p><p> The immediate issue at hand is whether this world is going to survive. Practically ever delegate present</p><p> represents a group that has, at its command, the power to obliterate this planet. Call it a doomsday</p><p> weapon or whatever, each one amounts to the same thing. And they can't be countered. They are</p><p> purely offensive. </p><p></p><p> "So. Anyone who wants to annihilate all life on Toril should do so now. If it is truly your desire, stop</p><p> wasting our time, because all of the diplomacy is pointless if you are set on this course of action. End</p><p> it.</p><p></p><p> "If you do *not* wish to obliterate the world, then you are here to discuss how to live in tentative</p><p> peace. Each delegate has a right to ask for reasonable assurances of safety for his/her constituents. </p><p></p><p> "And understand, you *will* be asking. There will be no more threats. They are pointless. If you don't</p><p> wish to kill all life here, then the threats are pointless anyway, because all of us here have been forced</p><p> to make the same decision. </p><p></p><p> "The Faerie have already left. If you wish for our return, then you have only to negotiate a satisfactory</p><p> peace amongst yourselves that leads us to believe we will also be safe here. We *will* alter the places</p><p> where we live to suit ourselves. But you have all done so as well. This *is* a compromise. We are</p><p> willing to return, the Unseelie at least, knowing that the crisis is averted and genocided is ended.</p><p></p><p> "Should these proceedings end in failure, we will not return, for then we are only entering into a</p><p> warzone. That is the Unseelie stance on the matter. I imagine the Seelie would agree, though Serran</p><p> speaks for them more directly than I. </p><p></p><p> "Those of you who want, or need us back should keep this in mind. No more threats. No more</p><p> genocide. No more wars of mass destruction. We'll return when we believe that we will be reasonably</p><p> safe.</p><p></p><p> "As for the immediate threat of the elves' Armada, even they are deathly afraid of the Unseelie. *All*</p><p> elves are deathly afraid of us. Should these proceedings end in peace, we pledge out assistance in</p><p> averting the elven Armada."</p><p></p><p> He is most certainly disgusted by what he has just said, "I am disappointed that you require a being</p><p> from the Unseelie court to point out the obvious matter of good to you. Having been ambassador to</p><p> the Seelie Court, I know the concept well. But I am disgusted that you all ignore the simple fact of</p><p> self-preservation. If you cannot at least follow that basic instinct, then you are lower than animals." </p><p></p><p> Posts: 31 | Registered: Oct 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> DocMoriartty </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 8593 </p><p> posted December 05, 2001 08:50 PM </p><p></p><p> Moriartty watches and shakes his head.</p><p></p><p> "I must speak with my clients. The most I think they will do is offer to close this crystal sphere to block</p><p> the Elven Vengance fleet if they defeat the Shades and Phaerimm." </p><p></p><p> Posts: 135 | From: Chicago burbs | Registered: Nov 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 1235 </p><p> posted December 05, 2001 08:53 PM </p><p></p><p> Several delegates angrilly point out to the Unseelie representative that the Eladrin, in a fit of rage, has</p><p> gone off to attack the elven Fleets of Vengeance by himself, and they could not stop him.</p><p></p><p> And now, both the phaerimm and the City of Shade are clamoring that all should go to his aid.</p><p></p><p> The diplomats look at the Unseelie representative with a look that says: We're sorta helpless in this</p><p> matter ...</p><p></p><p> (waits for the others to respond to the phaerimm and City of Shade, and the situation in general)</p><p></p><p> [ December 05, 2001: Message edited by: Edena_of_Neith ]</p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 1566 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Forrester </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 2760 </p><p> posted December 05, 2001 09:05 PM </p><p></p><p> Forrester shakes his head sadly.</p><p></p><p> Well, I have to say that I am just . . . soooo surprised. </p><p></p><p> The Queen didn't get EXACTLY the answer she wanted, and so she decided to allow Armageddon. </p><p></p><p> Perhaps I did not choose my words carefully enough, but I was ready to attempt assimilation with the</p><p> elves, gradually, for it was clear to all but the most retarded gully dwarf that immediate assimilation on</p><p> either side was impossible. I was ready to allow some to come to Toril, and were we allowed in the</p><p> Commonwealth, we would have been living among them. </p><p></p><p> I regret that this was not enough for the bitch-queen, but I am not surprised. </p><p></p><p> The Elven fleets are joyous in this, of course, because they would rather see Toril destroyed utterly</p><p> than let my people actually win a war against them. Yes, I'm sure they would prefer to only level the</p><p> 25% or so of Toril that my people occupy, but do you really think that with the forces involved, they will</p><p> be able to restrain themselves?! </p><p></p><p> I implore you all, for the sake of Toril, for the sake of the Weave, for the sake of the Universe itself,</p><p> please help me put an end to the elven fleets as quickly as you possibly can, before they get close</p><p> enough to Toril to do damage. </p><p></p><p> I support the Phaerimm and their idea of a pre-emptive strike, as long as it does not involve</p><p> unleashing the Elder Gods. </p><p></p><p> I ask:</p><p></p><p> The scro to fight, in Realmspace, so that the elves never reach Toril.</p><p></p><p> The Technomancy to fight, and moreover, to help protect our lands, so that should some elves reach</p><p> here, their weapons of mass destruction will not blemish our sacret home. </p><p></p><p> Zouron's Magocracy to fight, and help protect our lands and my people, who do not deserve to be</p><p> killed in this suicidal act of vengeance. </p><p></p><p> I ask the help of ALL who would give it, who would at the same time resist using more force than</p><p> necessary to stop the fleets; for I do not know whether the unleashing of all weapons of mass</p><p> destruction will cause what the Chosen think it will cause. Will it matter if the unleashing takes place</p><p> many thousands of miles from Toril? I do not know if we can say. </p><p></p><p> Alternatively, additionally . . . if we can block the Elves from reaching Toril . . . </p><p></p><p> I am at a loss for words. A loss for strategy as well. All I can do is beg this good court, help me stop</p><p> the elven fleet, or we will all perish. </p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p> Peacemaker </p><p></p><p> Posts: 699 | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Semirhage </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 8099 </p><p> posted December 05, 2001 09:13 PM </p><p></p><p> Valkys looks at the Phaerimm and the Shades and practically screams at them, "YOU FOOLS!!! We are</p><p> trying to end a war and create PEACE!!!" before he calms down somewhat, "I suggest you all stay here.</p><p> Your warmonger attitude is likely only to endanger Realmspace further. While you believe you can</p><p> stand up to the combined force of the Elves, you'll only succeed in embroiling more interplanar forces</p><p> in this conflict.</p><p></p><p> This aggressive behavior from a Deva is absolutely unheard of. He's attacking a misguided, yet good</p><p> force. He must be stopped, whatever the cost. The Eladrin cannot stop them unless he manages to</p><p> talk them out of it. If he is unsuccessful in diplomacy... I shudder at the thought. This will never end. I</p><p> expect to return, unlike the foolish angel."</p><p></p><p> Looking at the Sharn and including the shades, "Please seal the Crystal Sphere. The Eladrin and I will</p><p> be able to return through means other than portals and spelljamming." </p><p></p><p> Valkys vanishes in a puff of sulfuric smoke, just as he arrived, as he heads off to intercept the Eladrin.</p><p></p><p> OOC: The character is basically a Balor, Wiz 20/Acm 5/War 5, with high charisma and excellent</p><p> diplomacy. He's going to catch up with the Eladrin if he can. I figure worst case he gets there during</p><p> the diplomacy. </p><p></p><p> Goals are: 1) Assist the Eladrin in talking the Elves out of vengeance.</p><p> 2) Prevent the Eladrin from provoking them further, since the Crystal sphere will be sealed anyway and</p><p> the last thing anyone really wants is a war with every elf in existence.</p><p></p><p> I'll point all of this out to the Eladrin, who probably was just too stunned to think properly. I'll also</p><p> point out that this is against his nature to attack a basically good force. Should he succeed in his</p><p> attack, his soul is likely to spend the rest of eternity in the Abyss. </p><p></p><p> Posts: 31 | Registered: Oct 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Phasmus </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 2639 </p><p> posted December 05, 2001 09:16 PM </p><p></p><p> *The trio of Neoillithid have sat in forlorn silence for quite some time. Now, the senior among them</p><p> speaks.*</p><p></p><p> The hatred and wrath in this room is palpable, and it tears at us. It wears on us. We had hoped to</p><p> leave such torment behind, in underdark...</p><p></p><p> Our people did not ascend from the depths of Toril only to be wiped away in an instant by the greed</p><p> and malice of others! We did not suffer the move to the surface, to the light, only to discover new</p><p> heights of evil and perversity!</p><p></p><p> We charge that the only true enemies any of us have here, are those of you who make demands for</p><p> your personal convenience, to further your own ends... or even the ends of your factions. We charge</p><p> that those of you who have the audacity to try to lay claim to your moral theories and your sense of</p><p> vengeance... when even now we are working to stave off the very fate of our world... are practicing evil.</p><p> Those who would take advantage of a threat of not just the suffering, but the END of countless others,</p><p> to get what you want, or make others think how you wish, are no better than the Deep Illithid.</p><p></p><p> Such trivialities are for when the very existence of Toril is no longer in peril!</p><p></p><p> We will willingly serve any administrative body to which we are subject, but not subjugated, be it under</p><p> a united government, the Phaerimm, the Shade, the Technomancy, the Elves or the Kender! This is</p><p> not a time to pick and choose the organization you find most appealing! It is a time to settle for your</p><p> very survival!</p><p></p><p> Where there are faults, we will do what we can to correct them. Where we can gain power, and apply it</p><p> to the ends we call just... we will. But the time for any of that is long in coming.</p><p></p><p> For anyone to individually plot positions of power, and who will and won't be excluded from their "new</p><p> world orders," while the destruction of the world seems more likely than anything else, is ludicrous! To</p><p> attempt to create a cohesive world order while half of you have knives at each others throats is sheer</p><p> madness! You must drop the knives first.</p><p></p><p> *his voice lowers, and his tone changes from one of sorrowful anger, to one of cold regret.*</p><p></p><p> There is little we can do, now...</p><p></p><p> There were many roads to peace here, many of them would not result in a decrease in freedom or in</p><p> happiness for anyone, except what they imposed on themselves... many of them were childishly</p><p> simple to take. But if you would, or could, find one that was mutually agreeable, you would have found</p><p> it already, we fear.</p><p></p><p> *he pauses and sighs*</p><p></p><p> We warn you that the conflict with the elves will leave an opening for the Deep Illithid... they may well</p><p> strike, for they will not aid us, and no matter who wins they stand to lose everything.</p><p></p><p> But at this point, it does not seem to matter greatly.</p><p></p><p> We will aid Toril against the elves as best we can, not out of any malice toward them... simply in</p><p> self-defense. Know, that if there could be another way, we would gladly chose it. </p><p></p><p> This is not the light we sought. </p><p></p><p> Posts: 74 | From: Oregon | Registered: Feb 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Reprisal </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 2368 </p><p> posted December 05, 2001 09:55 PM </p><p></p><p></p><p> quote:</p><p></p><p> For anyone to individually plot positions of power, and who will and won't be excluded</p><p> from their "new world orders," while the destruction of the world seems more likely than</p><p> anything else, is ludicrous! To attempt to create a cohesive world order while half of you</p><p> have knives at each others throats is sheer madness! You must drop the knives first.</p><p></p><p></p><p> "The Technocratic Commonwealth has not raised a hand in the direction of anyone in forty years, and I</p><p> would remind everyone of that fact. The destruction of the world is threatened by outside forces, and it</p><p> is my understanding that when and if the elven fleet arrives, our orbital defenses will help deal some</p><p> damage should they threaten the survival of the Commonwealth, or any allied nations.</p><p></p><p> "That being said, what does the Humanoid Alliance say about forging a pan-Toril Alliance against the</p><p> Elves should they try to attack? We will, of course, try to do what we can to end it by peaceful means,</p><p> but if push comes to shove... am I not right?"</p><p></p><p> --------------------</p><p></p><p> "Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus</p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 223 | From: Parksville, BC, Canada | Registered: Feb 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Forrester </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 2760 </p><p> posted December 05, 2001 09:59 PM </p><p></p><p></p><p> quote:</p><p></p><p> Originally posted by Reprisal:</p><p></p><p> "That being said, what does the Humanoid Alliance say about forging a pan-Toril</p><p> Alliance against the Elves should they try to attack? We will, of course, try to do what</p><p> we can to end it by peaceful means, but if push comes to shove... am I not right?"</p><p></p><p></p><p> Forty-seven years ago, we stood with you as the elves tried to excise you from this world. It seems</p><p> more than fitting that our lives be in your hands now. We will gladly join a pan-Toril Alliance to help</p><p> stop any invasion before it gets here. </p><p></p><p> The question is, can we stop them while avoiding the somewhat vague Universe-wide disaster that the</p><p> Chosen have referred to?</p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p> Peacemaker </p><p></p><p> Posts: 699 | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Reprisal </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 2368 </p><p> posted December 05, 2001 10:20 PM </p><p></p><p> "Excellent. Our ships and orbital platforms will relay targeting information to your missile silos when</p><p> the time comes, should it come, that is...</p><p></p><p> "As for me, I will retire to my quarters to start the planning and attempt to gain a satellite uplink to</p><p> our ships and hopefully have some face to face time with the leaders of the elven fleet."</p><p></p><p> --------------------</p><p></p><p> "Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus</p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 223 | From: Parksville, BC, Canada | Registered: Feb 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Semirhage </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 8099 </p><p> posted December 05, 2001 10:57 PM </p><p></p><p> OOC: </p><p> Should the Eladrin attack before I can intercept him, the next mission is to convince the elves that he</p><p> was a single Eladrin, attacking alone, whose views held nothing to do with a) other Eladrin or, b) any</p><p> other native of Toril(this is where it pays to be non-good, as I can lie). </p><p> I'm hoping that you take my action into consideration and allow me to head him off, however. </p><p></p><p> Posts: 31 | Registered: Oct 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Forrester </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 2760 </p><p> posted December 05, 2001 11:49 PM </p><p></p><p></p><p> quote:</p><p></p><p> Originally posted by Edena_of_Neith:</p><p></p><p> However, she was bound to ask for certain terms, and she could not retract those</p><p> terms.</p><p> She asked for her race to be reintegrated into Torilian society, that they be forgiven,</p><p> and that all the elves who would settle resettle on Toril, be allowed to do so.</p><p></p><p> She, in turn, offered to constrain her people to peace, and she knew that given time,</p><p> forgiveness and repentence were possible, IF the undead Watchnorns constantly</p><p> haunted the elves and instructed them, whether they wished it or no.</p><p></p><p> She made this offer to the Humanoid ambassador, who rejected it and offered his own</p><p> terms.</p><p> However, Queen Amlaruil could not agree to the terms of Forrester, could not.</p><p></p><p></p><p> I just wanted to point out that this is no doubt how the bitch-Queen sees things, but it strays quite far</p><p> from reality. </p><p></p><p> Her race WAS going to be reintegrated into Torillian society -- the Commonwealth accepted them. The</p><p> elves at no time in history lived in *all* places on Toril, why should they start now? </p><p></p><p> And what's this about "All the elves who would resettle on Toril" -- she was FORCING elves to resettle</p><p> on Toril, even if they did not want to! </p><p></p><p> And as mentioned previously, forgiveness is a sham when it is given to someone who has not asked</p><p> for it. Besides . . . the elves who would live on Toril did not directly wrong us in any way. They have no</p><p> need of forgiveness. (Yet.) </p><p></p><p> So I fail to see how my "compromise" was anything less than what she wanted. </p><p></p><p> To hell with it. If they come, we shall blow them out of the sky. </p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p> Peacemaker </p><p></p><p> Posts: 699 | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Reprisal </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 2368 </p><p> posted December 06, 2001 12:26 AM </p><p></p><p></p><p> quote:</p><p></p><p> Her race WAS going to be reintegrated into Torillian society -- the Commonwealth</p><p> accepted them.</p><p></p><p></p><p> "This was my understanding also. The Commonwealth is more than large enough to take in any elven</p><p> settlers that wish to move to Toril. We'd already guaranteed them equal rights and representation via</p><p> our government, and the Humanoid Alliance was more than cordial in their acceptance of these terms.</p><p> When and if I ever get a hold of the Elven Fleet, I will try to contact their leaders and the Queen to</p><p> reiterate this very important point."</p><p></p><p> --------------------</p><p></p><p> "Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus</p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 223 | From: Parksville, BC, Canada | Registered: Feb 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> TheBalor </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 3669 </p><p> posted December 06, 2001 01:01 AM </p><p></p><p> A question: Would the spelljamming fleet of the imperial elves strike a deal with the devils? They</p><p> must know that their new enemies could crush them unless they had further assistance. The price of</p><p> their service could be letting them loot the cities of the humanoids and (possibly) the technomancy for</p><p> more cutting-edge technology. Or would it be against a contract Forrester made with Maddman back in</p><p> the war?</p><p></p><p> [ December 06, 2001: Message edited by: TheBalor ]</p><p></p><p> --------------------</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p> Persecution. Betrayal. Hatred. These things don't change. -The Maestro</p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 244 | Registered: Apr 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> zouron </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 3707 </p><p> posted December 06, 2001 02:37 AM </p><p></p><p> *zouron smirks slightly from his bystander seat, then says to forrester*</p><p></p><p> I will provide you with intelligency of the elven fleet, nothing more, beyond that my people with</p><p> withdraw to the demiplane created and or protect themselves as needed here.</p><p></p><p> *zouron returns to silence*</p><p></p><p> --------------------</p><p></p><p> Alone is something we all are</p><p> only far away voices breaks the silence</p><p> whom wish to escape</p><p> this labyrinth of loneliness</p><p> we fumble our way, but finds nothing</p><p> because here are no walls</p><p> only the fear's angst</p><p> keeps us apart</p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 158 | From: Hvidovre, Denmark | Registered: Apr 2001 | IP: Logged</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 1304755, member: 2020"] [b](Post 26) The Second IR[/b] Riot Gear Member Member # 202 posted December 05, 2001 08:37 PM The Eladrin stands, stunned by this revelation. "Although I would have prevented this if I know how, I'm afraid... I could not. I have failed you." His eyes seem to glow. "But I will not - will NOT - Allow this mockery of justice the elves call Vengeance to take place." He stands, his face flashing holy fire. "I will delay the elven fleets. I won't be coming back. And I SWEAR, you WILL find enough peace between yourself to survive their assault, or I will haunt you all to your graves." He vanishes in a cataclysmic burst of light as he moves to intercept the fleets. OOC: Edena, my Character is a Deva Ftr20/Clr (Good, Chaos)10 with feats geared toward diplomacy and thwomping evil. His first manauver will be to attempt parley in regards towards getting them to not level people who aren't Humanoids, so that Toril can form a more focused defense. If they refuse parley or attempt to kill him, he breaks as much stuff as he can before retreating. He will cause as much damage as he can. -------------------- ------- I love maces, I really do. That crunch noise is just SO satisfying, and the flying shards of bloody bone - Well, that's just icing on the cake. :D Posts: 1574 | Registered: Dec 2000 | IP: Logged DocMoriartty Member Member # 8593 posted December 05, 2001 08:39 PM Moriartty looks up at the suggestion given. "How do you plan on putting the genie back in the bottle? Once they are done with the elven fleet the Elder races may turn around and come here. Or they may just go on a destructive rampage across the universe. We may only buy ourselves a little bit of time before Toril joins it. My clients in Sigil may survive but I doubt the Lady of Pain will allow any of us in if we willingly let the Elder Races free." "Besides, even if the Elder Races only destroyed the elven fleet we would have made enemies of every elf in the multiverse. There would never be peace here again." quote: Originally posted by Edena_of_Neith: The Netherese ambassador regards the Sharn, who were effectively allies of the Netherese during the Shadowed Years, and he then stands and speaks in a strong voice: The Netherese Empire stands firm with the Sharn and the Sigilian mages. We will work together with them to seal Realmspace, so that the Elven Fleets of Vengeance cannot enter, either via Planar Travel or by Portals in the Crystal Sphere. We request the cooperation of the Slaadi in this endeavor, since they are holding open the Gates by force, and we cannot seal Realmspace without their help. We request to the Phaerimm that they join us in sealing Realmspace, to protect the planet we both cherish. - - - The phaerimm ambassador raises an eyebrow (or, at least, the phaerimm equivalent) then speaks: Why not simply unleash the Elder Ones upon their fleets, in the places where they now assemble? This would destroy not only their fleets, but the bases they are housed out of, and those worlds giving succor to these elves would be punished for their actions. Posts: 135 | From: Chicago burbs | Registered: Nov 2001 | IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member Member # 1235 posted December 05, 2001 08:39 PM The departure of the Eladrin against the Elven Fleets of Vengeance is an Act of War. The phaerimm immediately state they will travel to aid the eladrin in crushing the elves, IF the other powers at this conference will also go with them. The City of Shade immediately agrees to ally with the phaerimm, and go after the elven fleets. Your answer? [ December 05, 2001: Message edited by: Edena_of_Neith ] Posts: 1566 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member Member # 1235 posted December 05, 2001 08:42 PM (Ah, sorry - Moriarrty - I changed the thread as the phaerimm agreed with you) The phaerimm ambassador and the ambassador of the City of Shade move to stand (and float) next to each other, and they say: We unite for Toril. We will aid the Eladrin against the Elven Fleet of Vengeance. We ask everyone else to help us. We believe that those who refuse to help us now, are not worthy of being considered in future negotiations. For the fate of the world is being decided now. Who will join us? - - - Even as the phaerimm and City of Shade ambassador await the reply, the Eladrin reaches the first of the Fleets of Vengeance. The elves will not negotiate, so I assume the Eladrin attacks. However, powerful as he is, a single Eladrin is not a match for a small army of mages, and the Eladrin is beaten back, bloodied, after destroying only one Spelljamming Ship. The eladrin has the option to attempt to open a Gate to Arborea and summon his kindred, but if he does, the elves will summon their kindred also from Arborea. [ December 05, 2001: Message edited by: Edena_of_Neith ] Posts: 1566 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged Semirhage Member Member # 8099 posted December 05, 2001 08:50 PM Valkys addresses the assembly, "A world government might be a possibility later on, but it seems to be you are planning a bit far into the future. Don't count your dragons before they're hatched. The immediate issue at hand is whether this world is going to survive. Practically ever delegate present represents a group that has, at its command, the power to obliterate this planet. Call it a doomsday weapon or whatever, each one amounts to the same thing. And they can't be countered. They are purely offensive. "So. Anyone who wants to annihilate all life on Toril should do so now. If it is truly your desire, stop wasting our time, because all of the diplomacy is pointless if you are set on this course of action. End it. "If you do *not* wish to obliterate the world, then you are here to discuss how to live in tentative peace. Each delegate has a right to ask for reasonable assurances of safety for his/her constituents. "And understand, you *will* be asking. There will be no more threats. They are pointless. If you don't wish to kill all life here, then the threats are pointless anyway, because all of us here have been forced to make the same decision. "The Faerie have already left. If you wish for our return, then you have only to negotiate a satisfactory peace amongst yourselves that leads us to believe we will also be safe here. We *will* alter the places where we live to suit ourselves. But you have all done so as well. This *is* a compromise. We are willing to return, the Unseelie at least, knowing that the crisis is averted and genocided is ended. "Should these proceedings end in failure, we will not return, for then we are only entering into a warzone. That is the Unseelie stance on the matter. I imagine the Seelie would agree, though Serran speaks for them more directly than I. "Those of you who want, or need us back should keep this in mind. No more threats. No more genocide. No more wars of mass destruction. We'll return when we believe that we will be reasonably safe. "As for the immediate threat of the elves' Armada, even they are deathly afraid of the Unseelie. *All* elves are deathly afraid of us. Should these proceedings end in peace, we pledge out assistance in averting the elven Armada." He is most certainly disgusted by what he has just said, "I am disappointed that you require a being from the Unseelie court to point out the obvious matter of good to you. Having been ambassador to the Seelie Court, I know the concept well. But I am disgusted that you all ignore the simple fact of self-preservation. If you cannot at least follow that basic instinct, then you are lower than animals." Posts: 31 | Registered: Oct 2001 | IP: Logged DocMoriartty Member Member # 8593 posted December 05, 2001 08:50 PM Moriartty watches and shakes his head. "I must speak with my clients. The most I think they will do is offer to close this crystal sphere to block the Elven Vengance fleet if they defeat the Shades and Phaerimm." Posts: 135 | From: Chicago burbs | Registered: Nov 2001 | IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member Member # 1235 posted December 05, 2001 08:53 PM Several delegates angrilly point out to the Unseelie representative that the Eladrin, in a fit of rage, has gone off to attack the elven Fleets of Vengeance by himself, and they could not stop him. And now, both the phaerimm and the City of Shade are clamoring that all should go to his aid. The diplomats look at the Unseelie representative with a look that says: We're sorta helpless in this matter ... (waits for the others to respond to the phaerimm and City of Shade, and the situation in general) [ December 05, 2001: Message edited by: Edena_of_Neith ] Posts: 1566 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged Forrester Member Member # 2760 posted December 05, 2001 09:05 PM Forrester shakes his head sadly. Well, I have to say that I am just . . . soooo surprised. The Queen didn't get EXACTLY the answer she wanted, and so she decided to allow Armageddon. Perhaps I did not choose my words carefully enough, but I was ready to attempt assimilation with the elves, gradually, for it was clear to all but the most retarded gully dwarf that immediate assimilation on either side was impossible. I was ready to allow some to come to Toril, and were we allowed in the Commonwealth, we would have been living among them. I regret that this was not enough for the bitch-queen, but I am not surprised. The Elven fleets are joyous in this, of course, because they would rather see Toril destroyed utterly than let my people actually win a war against them. Yes, I'm sure they would prefer to only level the 25% or so of Toril that my people occupy, but do you really think that with the forces involved, they will be able to restrain themselves?! I implore you all, for the sake of Toril, for the sake of the Weave, for the sake of the Universe itself, please help me put an end to the elven fleets as quickly as you possibly can, before they get close enough to Toril to do damage. I support the Phaerimm and their idea of a pre-emptive strike, as long as it does not involve unleashing the Elder Gods. I ask: The scro to fight, in Realmspace, so that the elves never reach Toril. The Technomancy to fight, and moreover, to help protect our lands, so that should some elves reach here, their weapons of mass destruction will not blemish our sacret home. Zouron's Magocracy to fight, and help protect our lands and my people, who do not deserve to be killed in this suicidal act of vengeance. I ask the help of ALL who would give it, who would at the same time resist using more force than necessary to stop the fleets; for I do not know whether the unleashing of all weapons of mass destruction will cause what the Chosen think it will cause. Will it matter if the unleashing takes place many thousands of miles from Toril? I do not know if we can say. Alternatively, additionally . . . if we can block the Elves from reaching Toril . . . I am at a loss for words. A loss for strategy as well. All I can do is beg this good court, help me stop the elven fleet, or we will all perish. Forrester Peacemaker Posts: 699 | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged Semirhage Member Member # 8099 posted December 05, 2001 09:13 PM Valkys looks at the Phaerimm and the Shades and practically screams at them, "YOU FOOLS!!! We are trying to end a war and create PEACE!!!" before he calms down somewhat, "I suggest you all stay here. Your warmonger attitude is likely only to endanger Realmspace further. While you believe you can stand up to the combined force of the Elves, you'll only succeed in embroiling more interplanar forces in this conflict. This aggressive behavior from a Deva is absolutely unheard of. He's attacking a misguided, yet good force. He must be stopped, whatever the cost. The Eladrin cannot stop them unless he manages to talk them out of it. If he is unsuccessful in diplomacy... I shudder at the thought. This will never end. I expect to return, unlike the foolish angel." Looking at the Sharn and including the shades, "Please seal the Crystal Sphere. The Eladrin and I will be able to return through means other than portals and spelljamming." Valkys vanishes in a puff of sulfuric smoke, just as he arrived, as he heads off to intercept the Eladrin. OOC: The character is basically a Balor, Wiz 20/Acm 5/War 5, with high charisma and excellent diplomacy. He's going to catch up with the Eladrin if he can. I figure worst case he gets there during the diplomacy. Goals are: 1) Assist the Eladrin in talking the Elves out of vengeance. 2) Prevent the Eladrin from provoking them further, since the Crystal sphere will be sealed anyway and the last thing anyone really wants is a war with every elf in existence. I'll point all of this out to the Eladrin, who probably was just too stunned to think properly. I'll also point out that this is against his nature to attack a basically good force. Should he succeed in his attack, his soul is likely to spend the rest of eternity in the Abyss. Posts: 31 | Registered: Oct 2001 | IP: Logged Phasmus Member Member # 2639 posted December 05, 2001 09:16 PM *The trio of Neoillithid have sat in forlorn silence for quite some time. Now, the senior among them speaks.* The hatred and wrath in this room is palpable, and it tears at us. It wears on us. We had hoped to leave such torment behind, in underdark... Our people did not ascend from the depths of Toril only to be wiped away in an instant by the greed and malice of others! We did not suffer the move to the surface, to the light, only to discover new heights of evil and perversity! We charge that the only true enemies any of us have here, are those of you who make demands for your personal convenience, to further your own ends... or even the ends of your factions. We charge that those of you who have the audacity to try to lay claim to your moral theories and your sense of vengeance... when even now we are working to stave off the very fate of our world... are practicing evil. Those who would take advantage of a threat of not just the suffering, but the END of countless others, to get what you want, or make others think how you wish, are no better than the Deep Illithid. Such trivialities are for when the very existence of Toril is no longer in peril! We will willingly serve any administrative body to which we are subject, but not subjugated, be it under a united government, the Phaerimm, the Shade, the Technomancy, the Elves or the Kender! This is not a time to pick and choose the organization you find most appealing! It is a time to settle for your very survival! Where there are faults, we will do what we can to correct them. Where we can gain power, and apply it to the ends we call just... we will. But the time for any of that is long in coming. For anyone to individually plot positions of power, and who will and won't be excluded from their "new world orders," while the destruction of the world seems more likely than anything else, is ludicrous! To attempt to create a cohesive world order while half of you have knives at each others throats is sheer madness! You must drop the knives first. *his voice lowers, and his tone changes from one of sorrowful anger, to one of cold regret.* There is little we can do, now... There were many roads to peace here, many of them would not result in a decrease in freedom or in happiness for anyone, except what they imposed on themselves... many of them were childishly simple to take. But if you would, or could, find one that was mutually agreeable, you would have found it already, we fear. *he pauses and sighs* We warn you that the conflict with the elves will leave an opening for the Deep Illithid... they may well strike, for they will not aid us, and no matter who wins they stand to lose everything. But at this point, it does not seem to matter greatly. We will aid Toril against the elves as best we can, not out of any malice toward them... simply in self-defense. Know, that if there could be another way, we would gladly chose it. This is not the light we sought. Posts: 74 | From: Oregon | Registered: Feb 2001 | IP: Logged Reprisal Member Member # 2368 posted December 05, 2001 09:55 PM quote: For anyone to individually plot positions of power, and who will and won't be excluded from their "new world orders," while the destruction of the world seems more likely than anything else, is ludicrous! To attempt to create a cohesive world order while half of you have knives at each others throats is sheer madness! You must drop the knives first. "The Technocratic Commonwealth has not raised a hand in the direction of anyone in forty years, and I would remind everyone of that fact. The destruction of the world is threatened by outside forces, and it is my understanding that when and if the elven fleet arrives, our orbital defenses will help deal some damage should they threaten the survival of the Commonwealth, or any allied nations. "That being said, what does the Humanoid Alliance say about forging a pan-Toril Alliance against the Elves should they try to attack? We will, of course, try to do what we can to end it by peaceful means, but if push comes to shove... am I not right?" -------------------- "Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus Posts: 223 | From: Parksville, BC, Canada | Registered: Feb 2001 | IP: Logged Forrester Member Member # 2760 posted December 05, 2001 09:59 PM quote: Originally posted by Reprisal: "That being said, what does the Humanoid Alliance say about forging a pan-Toril Alliance against the Elves should they try to attack? We will, of course, try to do what we can to end it by peaceful means, but if push comes to shove... am I not right?" Forty-seven years ago, we stood with you as the elves tried to excise you from this world. It seems more than fitting that our lives be in your hands now. We will gladly join a pan-Toril Alliance to help stop any invasion before it gets here. The question is, can we stop them while avoiding the somewhat vague Universe-wide disaster that the Chosen have referred to? Forrester Peacemaker Posts: 699 | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged Reprisal Member Member # 2368 posted December 05, 2001 10:20 PM "Excellent. Our ships and orbital platforms will relay targeting information to your missile silos when the time comes, should it come, that is... "As for me, I will retire to my quarters to start the planning and attempt to gain a satellite uplink to our ships and hopefully have some face to face time with the leaders of the elven fleet." -------------------- "Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus Posts: 223 | From: Parksville, BC, Canada | Registered: Feb 2001 | IP: Logged Semirhage Member Member # 8099 posted December 05, 2001 10:57 PM OOC: Should the Eladrin attack before I can intercept him, the next mission is to convince the elves that he was a single Eladrin, attacking alone, whose views held nothing to do with a) other Eladrin or, b) any other native of Toril(this is where it pays to be non-good, as I can lie). I'm hoping that you take my action into consideration and allow me to head him off, however. Posts: 31 | Registered: Oct 2001 | IP: Logged Forrester Member Member # 2760 posted December 05, 2001 11:49 PM quote: Originally posted by Edena_of_Neith: However, she was bound to ask for certain terms, and she could not retract those terms. She asked for her race to be reintegrated into Torilian society, that they be forgiven, and that all the elves who would settle resettle on Toril, be allowed to do so. She, in turn, offered to constrain her people to peace, and she knew that given time, forgiveness and repentence were possible, IF the undead Watchnorns constantly haunted the elves and instructed them, whether they wished it or no. She made this offer to the Humanoid ambassador, who rejected it and offered his own terms. However, Queen Amlaruil could not agree to the terms of Forrester, could not. I just wanted to point out that this is no doubt how the bitch-Queen sees things, but it strays quite far from reality. Her race WAS going to be reintegrated into Torillian society -- the Commonwealth accepted them. The elves at no time in history lived in *all* places on Toril, why should they start now? And what's this about "All the elves who would resettle on Toril" -- she was FORCING elves to resettle on Toril, even if they did not want to! And as mentioned previously, forgiveness is a sham when it is given to someone who has not asked for it. Besides . . . the elves who would live on Toril did not directly wrong us in any way. They have no need of forgiveness. (Yet.) So I fail to see how my "compromise" was anything less than what she wanted. To hell with it. If they come, we shall blow them out of the sky. Forrester Peacemaker Posts: 699 | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged Reprisal Member Member # 2368 posted December 06, 2001 12:26 AM quote: Her race WAS going to be reintegrated into Torillian society -- the Commonwealth accepted them. "This was my understanding also. The Commonwealth is more than large enough to take in any elven settlers that wish to move to Toril. We'd already guaranteed them equal rights and representation via our government, and the Humanoid Alliance was more than cordial in their acceptance of these terms. When and if I ever get a hold of the Elven Fleet, I will try to contact their leaders and the Queen to reiterate this very important point." -------------------- "Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus Posts: 223 | From: Parksville, BC, Canada | Registered: Feb 2001 | IP: Logged TheBalor Member Member # 3669 posted December 06, 2001 01:01 AM A question: Would the spelljamming fleet of the imperial elves strike a deal with the devils? They must know that their new enemies could crush them unless they had further assistance. The price of their service could be letting them loot the cities of the humanoids and (possibly) the technomancy for more cutting-edge technology. Or would it be against a contract Forrester made with Maddman back in the war? [ December 06, 2001: Message edited by: TheBalor ] -------------------- Persecution. Betrayal. Hatred. These things don't change. -The Maestro Posts: 244 | Registered: Apr 2001 | IP: Logged zouron Member Member # 3707 posted December 06, 2001 02:37 AM *zouron smirks slightly from his bystander seat, then says to forrester* I will provide you with intelligency of the elven fleet, nothing more, beyond that my people with withdraw to the demiplane created and or protect themselves as needed here. *zouron returns to silence* -------------------- Alone is something we all are only far away voices breaks the silence whom wish to escape this labyrinth of loneliness we fumble our way, but finds nothing because here are no walls only the fear's angst keeps us apart Posts: 158 | From: Hvidovre, Denmark | Registered: Apr 2001 | IP: Logged [/QUOTE]
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