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<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 1304771" data-attributes="member: 2020"><p><strong>(Post 35) The Second IR</strong></p><p></p><p>- - - - - </p><p></p><p> Bagguns </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 523 </p><p> posted December 07, 2001 09:07 AM </p><p></p><p> Actually Moriartty, we already Chaos Wave'd the demiplane of New Umbra, just waiting for some effect</p><p> explanations by Edena...you're more than welcome to add your power to the wave however.</p><p></p><p> [ December 07, 2001: Message edited by: Bagguns ]</p><p></p><p> --------------------</p><p></p><p> Evolve or Die.</p><p></p><p> Entropy Sucks.</p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 192 | From: Cookstown/McGuire AFB, NJ | Registered: Dec 2000 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> - - - - - </p><p></p><p> DocMoriartty </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 8593 </p><p> posted December 07, 2001 09:15 AM </p><p></p><p> I have not been on since yesterday in the afternoon so I missed a lot. It seems my lack of attention</p><p> after closing the crystal sphere has caused some problems and given some help.</p><p></p><p> Originally posted by Bagguns:</p><p></p><p> Actually Moriartty, we already Chaos Wave'd the demiplane of New Umbra, just waiting for some effect</p><p> explanations by Edena...you're more than welcome to add your power to the wave however.</p><p></p><p> [ December 07, 2001: Message edited by: Bagguns ]</p><p></p><p> Posts: 139 | From: Chicago burbs | Registered: Nov 2001</p><p></p><p> [ December 07, 2001: Message edited by: Edena_of_Neith ]</p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 1620 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 1235 </p><p> posted December 07, 2001 09:50 AM </p><p></p><p> Rulings: </p><p></p><p> My apologies to Riot Gear. I erred, mistaking your intent.</p><p> Unfortunately, the mistake cannot be taken back or rectified ... it must be played out now.</p><p></p><p> Ao cannot stop the war. I have kept the Gods out of this, and Ao must also remain neutral.</p><p> Ao is free to give advice and warnings, but not to act.</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> The illithid of New Umbra were able to successfully transfer their demi-plane to Toril before the Slaadi</p><p> could set off a Chaos Wave in it.</p><p></p><p> Now, the Slaadi could set off a Chaos Wave against it now, but said Chaos Wave would affect all of</p><p> Realmspace.</p><p></p><p> The choice is yours.</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> There are too many people attempting Planar Travel for any restraints to hold up.</p><p> All attempts to block Planar Travel fail; excepting only that the Sigilians can block the portals from</p><p> Realmspace to Sigil and vice versa.</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> I would like to point out that the Technocracy has not yet agreed to pay the Yuan-Ti for their help; I</p><p> must assume the Yuan-Ti are NOT helping yet because they have not been paid.</p><p> The Gnomes, indeed, have apparently advised the Technocracy not to pay the Yuan-Ti.</p><p></p><p> [ December 07, 2001: Message edited by: Edena_of_Neith ]</p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 1620 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> DocMoriartty </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 8593 </p><p> posted December 07, 2001 09:59 AM </p><p></p><p> Ok, then I jump into the fray as described above. Including Moriartty himself sitting back and waiting</p><p> to act if the Chaos wave is unleashed. </p><p></p><p> Posts: 157 | From: Chicago burbs | Registered: Nov 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Aloïsius </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 2977 </p><p> posted December 07, 2001 10:00 AM </p><p></p><p> OoC, To Joren:</p><p> Illithids do not belongs to Toril, they come frome another material plane, and were not the creation of</p><p> Ao. In fact, Ao has only created the place where lies Toril. All the further creation were the work of</p><p> Selûne and Shar, and then the other gods and godesses.</p><p> As for the problem of fiends reacting to the angels intervention, it is very unlikely, because of the</p><p> blood wars between the Devils and the Demons. Be sure they will watch with delight the destruction, as</p><p> each time hate push beings against each other, it strengthens them, but I doubt they will interfere.</p><p> And by the way, why did Ao interfere now, and not before ? That's not consistent.</p><p> As for asking the Illithids to act in a way that would prevent Armaggedon... They are trying to destroy</p><p> Toril and bring Armaggedon on it, as this place threatens their way of life (at least, with the NeoIllithids</p><p> and the converted LG deep illithids, that's how they see it).</p><p> However, if the problem is the angels intervention, they should know it, and be able to act accordingly,</p><p> coming back to their home plane. </p><p></p><p> I will soon quit my computer for week end, and won't be here before Sunday evening. I will let Gez</p><p> lead my camps. </p><p></p><p> Posts: 356 | From: Montpellier, France | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> DocMoriartty </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 8593 </p><p> posted December 07, 2001 10:02 AM </p><p></p><p> Ok, then I jump into the fray as described above. The Sharn and Sigilians who were attempting to</p><p> keep Toril closed will join their fellows so all 13 strike groups are working together on this.</p><p></p><p> Including Moriartty himself sitting back and waiting to act if the Chaos wave is unleashed.</p><p></p><p> [ December 07, 2001: Message edited by: DocMoriartty ]</p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 157 | From: Chicago burbs | Registered: Nov 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 1235 </p><p> posted December 07, 2001 10:03 AM </p><p></p><p> (this post saved for possible future use)</p><p></p><p> [ December 07, 2001: Message edited by: Edena_of_Neith ]</p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 1620 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Bagguns </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 523 </p><p> posted December 07, 2001 10:05 AM </p><p></p><p> No, no Chaos Wave then...just killing Illithids and then going back to Limbo after the mop up is</p><p> completed, also the following that I posted back on the opther thread before I realized you created</p><p> this one.</p><p></p><p> POST FROM OTHER THREAD FOR EDENA:</p><p></p><p> You tell some one to watch their mouth because they don't speak for everyone and they chomp at the</p><p> bit to annihilate your entire race, what is Toril coming to? </p><p></p><p> You make plain to everyone that after the Illithids are taken care of you're leaving and they decide to</p><p> take the battle to your home plane, mages are so touchy! </p><p></p><p> Anyways, I guess it's time for Operation: Fortress Limbo.</p><p></p><p> The Slaadi who have stayed behind to "garrison" Limbo begin to use Chaos shaping in order to fortify</p><p> the plane from counterattack by the Umbral Illithid.</p><p></p><p> 1) We change the "natural laws" of the plane to make it harder (trying for impossible) to use psionic</p><p> powers in Limbo</p><p></p><p> 2) All Slaadi "cities" are protected by four-fold elemental spheres, passable to those with Chaos</p><p> shaping better than the Slaadi (good luck) or those the Slaadi decide to let through.</p><p></p><p> 3) Likely entry points are bathed in roiling seas of Chaos...have a nice swim! (Not inside the cities</p><p> though)</p><p></p><p> 4) Use of Ethereal plane to enter the plane will automatically be detected and pinpointed by</p><p> inahbitants of Limbo.</p><p></p><p> 5) Wards and innate spell powers are used to set up traps just outside of the Chaos Seas and secure</p><p> areas inside the cities, Slaadi may pass these wards but no other.</p><p></p><p> --------------------</p><p></p><p> Evolve or Die.</p><p></p><p> Entropy Sucks.</p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 194 | From: Cookstown/McGuire AFB, NJ | Registered: Dec 2000 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> zouron </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 3707 </p><p> posted December 07, 2001 10:21 AM </p><p></p><p> well edena you know my troops plan, piece through the defence with all we got sorta one point</p><p> blitzkrieger, straight into center, detonate whatever we have left at the time of the finding the general</p><p> location of the elder brain, and blast everything off giving usself minimum time to get away through</p><p> magic/psionic/whatever. and no concern is shown to other forces... this needs to be won at all cost...</p><p> and my character personally see that it does happened.</p><p></p><p> --------------------</p><p></p><p> Alone is something we all are</p><p> only far away voices breaks the silence</p><p> whom wish to escape</p><p> this labyrinth of loneliness</p><p> we fumble our way, but finds nothing</p><p> because here are no walls</p><p> only the fear's angst</p><p> keeps us apart</p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 172 | From: Hvidovre, Denmark | Registered: Apr 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Phasmus </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 2639 </p><p> posted December 07, 2001 10:26 AM </p><p></p><p> I have missed much in sleep...</p><p> The Deep Illithid and their former thralls have been fighting against the Umbran Illithid from the very</p><p> start... and doing little else, as indicated earlier. </p><p></p><p> Posts: 82 | From: Oregon | Registered: Feb 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Alzem Dalcama </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 893 </p><p> posted December 07, 2001 10:27 AM </p><p></p><p> Edena, do not forget that all of my Maurt's are still on the Island there to protect it. Also those people</p><p> on the Island are not called to fight in this war, they went to the Island for peace and we will not ask</p><p> them to leave it to enter a war. Let them live out their lives in peace. Also we will start bringing in our</p><p> Crystal Golumns to fight the Illithid. Also any Brain Moles that we can locate we will send to thier</p><p> demi-plane to assualt them.</p><p></p><p> [ December 07, 2001: Message edited by: Alzem Dalcama ]</p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 534 | From: Gastonia, NC USA - Proud to be an AMERICAN | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Gez </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 444 </p><p> posted December 07, 2001 11:14 AM </p><p></p><p> Let see. The forces massed against the Umbran Illithids are:</p><p> *The illusory Slaadi, Chaos Beasts, Titans, Eladrins and Djinni (even if they're illusory, the deal real</p><p> damages to the mindflayed mindflayers);</p><p> *The Gnomes, with their strike team of technodruids, technorangers, paladins, illusionist wizards,</p><p> clerics and golems;</p><p> *The Magocracy of Zouron, with (former ?) undead and wizards;</p><p> *The real Slaadi;</p><p> *The real Eladrins;</p><p> *The Archons led by Alzem;</p><p> *The NeoIllithids;</p><p> *The converted Deep Illithids;</p><p> *The Sharn;</p><p> *The Sigillians;</p><p> *"The" Larloch and his buddies;</p><p> *and others that I forget.</p><p></p><p> The Illithids that havn't retreated to defend the Elder Brain are assaulted by the forces of the</p><p> Technomancy, the Reborn Elves, and in fact most everyone who happen to be near a mindflayer.</p><p></p><p> Seeing that, the Yuan-ti perform a quick computation. Then, they try to estimate the amount of relics,</p><p> artifacts, magic items, and lore arcane, divine or psionic in the vault of New Umbra. They decide to</p><p> engage the Illithids here, even if the Prime Minister didn't sign the paper. They want to be the first to</p><p> loot New Umbra.</p><p></p><p> Meanwhile, another power, that was unnoticed until now, react. These strange creatures have always</p><p> been the concurrent of the illithids. Their exact goals are unknow, as their mind have always been to</p><p> alien to be understood by the other races, and noone never successfully communicated with them, but</p><p> one can estimate their current objective is similar to the Yuan-ti's one. So, the Cloacker enter in the</p><p> dance, passing through the Plane of Shadow to attack the (few remaining) umbran illithids.</p><p></p><p></p><p> The gnomes, since they now have Larloch's help, can coordinate their action with Zouron. They have</p><p> their own nuclear warhead, and are protected by nondetection, mindblank, invisibility and obscure</p><p> object spells, but Larloch, thanks to the Gnome Rep, have localized them and sent one of his lich to</p><p> their side, as well as another to the side of Zouron's strike team. The former-undead, still part of</p><p> Larloch's mental net, provide both sides (and of course Mister L) with the informations they need to</p><p> coordinate their strike.</p><p></p><p></p><p> The Lathanderite church reincarnate or raise their fallen members, and gather informations as well as</p><p> forces for the next move. They are suspicious of the Shade, and think that there will not be enough</p><p> illithids for everyone that want to squish some squid.</p><p></p><p> [ December 07, 2001: Message edited by: Gez ]</p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 1492 | From: Somewhere in France | Registered: Dec 2000 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Lord Talos </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 5533 </p><p> posted December 07, 2001 11:34 AM </p><p></p><p> Suddenly on Toril, a portal opens from The Plane Of Shadow and an enormous nightwalker comes</p><p> from within, his shape of absolute darkness, emanting an aura of emptiness and cold. He sends a</p><p> telepathic message to the all forces on Toril, suddenly all hear his voice and feel like an icicle piercing</p><p> through their very hearts:</p><p> KNOW THAT EVERYONE THAT SHALL ASSAULT THE PLANE OF SHADOW WILL MEET OURS, SHADOW`S,</p><p> RESPONSE FOR LONG AGO NETHERESE MADE A PACT WITH OUR RULERS AND THEY THEMSELVES</p><p> BECAME A CREATURES OF THE SHADOW. THEREFORE WE WILL DEPLOY A FORCE TO PROTECT THE CITY</p><p> OF THE SHADES.</p><p></p><p> power level of shadows protecting city of the Shades-40, 200 if Shadowlords( who rule the plane)</p><p> declare total war. </p><p></p><p> Posts: 206 | Registered: Jun 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Forrester </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 2760 </p><p> posted December 07, 2001 11:41 AM </p><p></p><p></p><p> quote:</p><p></p><p> Originally posted by Lord Talos:</p><p></p><p> power level of shadows protecting city of the Shades-40, 200 if Shadowlords( who rule</p><p> the plane) declare total war.</p><p></p><p></p><p> You must be new to this . For obvious reasons, you don't get to declare your own power level, my</p><p> good man . . . and/or set it equal or greater to the most powerful forces currently in this war. That's up</p><p> to Edena The Exhausted to do. </p><p></p><p> Posts: 713 | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Forrester </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 2760 </p><p> posted December 07, 2001 11:46 AM </p><p></p><p></p><p> quote:</p><p></p><p> Originally posted by Gez:</p><p> Let see. The forces massed against the Umbran Illithids are:</p><p> *The illusory Slaadi, Chaos Beasts, Titans, Eladrins and Djinni (even if they're illusory,</p><p> the deal real damages to the mindflayed mindflayers);</p><p> *The Gnomes, with their strike team of technodruids, technorangers, paladins,</p><p> illusionist wizards, clerics and golems;</p><p> *The Magocracy of Zouron, with (former ?) undead and wizards;</p><p> *The real Slaadi;</p><p> *The real Eladrins;</p><p> *The Archons led by Alzem;</p><p> *The NeoIllithids;</p><p> *The converted Deep Illithids;</p><p> *The Sharn;</p><p> *"The" Larloch and his buddies;</p><p> *and others that I forget.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> Um, there are *quite* a few Humanoids down there helping out as well . Now that the Netherese</p><p> idiots are gone, the only threat left is the Illithid, and we are going at them full-force. You'll need our</p><p> psionics to help shield you from the evil squid-heads (as opposed to the good squid-heads, sorry</p><p> about the racial slur!). </p><p></p><p> Yes, they are more powerful psionically than we are, but with the combined forces of our psioncists, the</p><p> Deep Illithid, and the NeoIllithid, I think we are their psionic equals. And with the combined might of</p><p> everyone else fighting them . . . they can't stand for long. </p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p> Peacemaker</p><p></p><p> [ December 07, 2001: Message edited by: Forrester ]</p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 713 | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Larloch the Former</p><p> UltraLich </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 8874 </p><p> posted December 07, 2001 11:46 AM </p><p></p><p> Edena, I, Larloch, use my arcane power to destroy each magical or psionical protections around the</p><p> Elder Brain. Those of my liches that were good in illusion or enchantment help strengthen the gnomish</p><p> spells that makes the illithid brain insane and makes it see enemies everywhere. As soon as no more</p><p> protections are left, I'll engage it in mental combat, in order to prevent it from coordinating its illithids</p><p> and give it the headach of its life. Normally, it won't be able to sense the golem burrowing their wat</p><p> into its neurons.</p><p></p><p> The pain, confusion, and illusions of the brain should much confuse the umbran illithids, who should</p><p> be far less effective, and really confused by the contradictory or illogical orders, and by the illusions</p><p> they sense through their constant telepathy with the brain.</p><p></p><p> Meanwhile, two of my liches works to coordinate the action of Zouron's strike team and the gnome</p><p> strike team (I think that the fact the gnomes were the first to go in the illithid lairs, and that they used</p><p> spells to prevent the illithids from discovering them make them nearer to their objective than</p><p> Zouron's, so I'll concentrate on them).</p><p></p><p> My living elder vampires and my other living liches and various living undead are eradicating all</p><p> non-good mindflayer on Toril, the Astral plane, the Ethereal plane, the Shadow plane, and New Umbra.</p><p></p><p> As soon as the Evil Illithids are eradicated from Realmspace, I'll start to watch very carefully the</p><p> Shades, the Phaerimms, the Unseely and the other evil factions. After all, I'm neutral good, now.</p><p></p><p> By the way, some questions, as it's not clear. It seems every underground creature has had its evil</p><p> extirped. So, the phaerimm and independant beholders (we haven't seen them much), notably,</p><p> should be good now. As the phaerimm that were not in the underground were in space, fighting the</p><p> elves, and have seemingly been vaporized, should we consider the evil phaerimm are no a minority ?</p><p></p><p> ((OOC: I also wonder about the duergar and derros, probably good also. Noone played them, so, if I</p><p> contact them, could I get to play them ? Were derros annihilated when "the sun raised inside Toril", or</p><p> have them lost their sunlight vulnerability ? And by the way, I assume my vampires don't suffer from</p><p> sunlight, now that they're alive, yet still with their vampire powers (much like the elves keeped their</p><p> ghostly or spectrely powers, even after been resurrected).)) </p><p></p><p> Posts: 2 | Registered: Dec 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Lord Talos </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 5533 </p><p> posted December 07, 2001 12:18 PM </p><p></p><p> Well Shadows are the natives of The Plane of Shadow( I know this isn`t exactly canon D@D) and</p><p> Edena listed the powers of Slaadi, Demons, Devils, Faerie etc at around 200 max. </p><p></p><p> Posts: 206 | Registered: Jun 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Gez </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 444 </p><p> posted December 07, 2001 12:29 PM </p><p></p><p> The Bullywugs prophetised by the Gnome Rep, have sensed too that Toril was under threat of</p><p> destruction. Havin been smartered by the Rituals of the Four Churches, they quickly created some</p><p> weapons. And now, the bullywugs are ready to save Toril. Now, the bullywugs sail in their "glorious"</p><p> improvised spelljammers, and head toward the Elven Fleet of Vengeance, in order to destroy it before</p><p> they can erase all life on Toril.</p><p></p><p> Well, even if they've been smartered by the Ritual, they are Bullywugs, no ?</p><p></p><p> Assuming their barely flying water lilies (yes, that's what they used for spelljammer) are able to reach</p><p> space, only to see that all spacial combat is ended since a long time, they'll crash back in their marsh</p><p> and wonder why they still sense danger.</p><p></p><p> OOC: Yes, I thought we needed a small comical relief to shield the young spectators from all the gory</p><p> violence of the screen as the squidboys are smashed, squished, toasted, dissolved, disintegrated,</p><p> blasted, and otherwise machine-gunned. We don't want that thread to be restricted to the less than 18</p><p> years because of the mass slaughter of obnoxious anthroquadropii. Call that a discreet interlude. </p><p></p><p> Posts: 1492 | From: Somewhere in France | Registered: Dec 2000 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Gez </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 444 </p><p> posted December 07, 2001 01:44 PM </p><p></p><p> Questions:</p><p></p><p> Since all creatures in the Underdark have been cleaned of all evil and hatred (and thus turned to good</p><p> alignment):</p><p></p><p> Are there still Drow ? Last time I heard of them, they were in the ships of the Elves (vaporized) and</p><p> those of the humanoids (vaporized also). Normally, all drows are dead. If there was some hidden in</p><p> the underdark, they are logically now of good alignment. Lolth and her underlings are gonna be very</p><p> pissed -- but well, she's nothing more in the Realms. Eilistraee will get her place in the hierarchy. If</p><p> there's no more drows, Lolth is dead also. Other creatures that worship her, driders and chitines, live in</p><p> the Underdark...</p><p></p><p> Speaking of deities, most of the power base for Shar was the humanoids (when they were still evil and</p><p> light-hating), and she has lost them after the 7-year war. Now that all underdark denizens (we can</p><p> estimate that this is 85% of the remnant of her followers) are good, they won't continue to worship</p><p> her. Shar will probably be downranked to lesser power, and this will in all likelihood weaken her Shadow</p><p> Weave, and thus weaken the magic of the Shade (a good number of them use the Shadow Weave).</p><p></p><p> The beholders (those that were not enslaved by phaerimm) will probably join the mess, and do what</p><p> they could to restore peace and order. They've probably heard of what has happened through their spy</p><p> networks (in thieves guilds, for example), and will probably be interested also by the treasure of the</p><p> illithids.</p><p></p><p> This question is important for druids (and technodruids, hehe): all creatures on Toril gained 3 points in</p><p> Intelligence. Does this include animals (who would so have between 4 and 5 Int) ? Has it awakened</p><p> vermins (no Int score) and oozes (no Int score) to sentience (the oozes are said to have been</p><p> sentient before the Elder Elemental God (or was it Juiblex ? Bah, they're all aliases for avatars of</p><p> Tharizdun) absorbed their intellect and consciousness to become the god he is. So, it is possible that</p><p> they have gained sentience back (it will be very strange to have to deal with intelligent gelatinous</p><p> cubes or giant centipedes). Same questions for constructs ? That's less likely, because they are not</p><p> living, but well... Maybe the objects animated by wandering ravids over the times would benefit from</p><p> that, rather than golems ? And what about sentient golems (Alias, the gemstone golems, the tomb</p><p> tappers) ? Have they received the Int bonus also ?</p><p></p><p></p><p> End of questions.</p><p></p><p></p><p> Since the creature of the Plane of Shadow are protecting the Shadovars (I've heard it's the name of</p><p> the citizen of Shade), the Lathanderite considers what they will need to fight them. After all, Shadow</p><p> creatures are often undead, bring despair, and are associated to darkness (ooc: the WotC designers</p><p> don't seems to think that shadow is made of light and darkness in equal portion, otherwise there</p><p> would have been Brightlands as well as Darklands in the PoS), all things that Lathander opposes to.</p><p> Furthermore, if Shar's power -- and more importantly, the size of her clergy -- have effectively been</p><p> reduced, the fight will not be as tough as it would have been otherwise. However, they are not eager to</p><p> fight, they need to recover their magical strengthes, and they want their allies to have their full</p><p> abilities too.</p><p></p><p> The gnomes are occupied with the illithids, but once the mindflaying threat is ended, if the Netherese</p><p> needs to be destroyed, they will gleefully attack them. After all, gnomes were enslaved by the Netheril</p><p> arcanists, and they don't have kind feelings toward the survivor of Netheril.</p><p></p><p> If a coalition is made against Shade, the Yuan-ti will offer their help again. And, if the Shade are</p><p> losing even without their help, they will engage the combat against them to loot their arcane lore, just</p><p> like what they did with the Illithids.</p><p></p><p> The reaction of other survivors of Netheril, Larloch, the nation of Halruaa and the one of Nimbral, are</p><p> less previsible, but we can guess Larloch will act against the Shades (he's good, now), and it's possible</p><p> the other also (out of greed for the Shadovar's secrets, or out of fear that they would have to obey to</p><p> the Shades' rules). However, they could as well decide to join the Shade "as good old fellows of the</p><p> Mighty Netheril" (fearing that the Shade are more powerful than them, and thinking that it's better to</p><p> join them voluntarily than to be forced into slavery, or out of lust for the arcane knowledge of the</p><p> Shadovar they could grab by working with them).</p><p></p><p> As for the position of the Cloakers in a fight against the Shade, it's totally unknown. They are being</p><p> from the Plane of Shadow too, but they've never allied or communicated with any other race. Noone</p><p> can say if they'll attack one side, the other, or just ignore the events.</p><p></p><p></p><p> For Edena or new players, here are the other possible factions that have not been claimed:</p><p></p><p> Aaracokra</p><p> Alaghi ?</p><p> Araneas</p><p> Asabi ?</p><p> The Beast Lord of Dekanter (another powerful spellcaster, probably good now, leading an army of</p><p> gargoyles, modified goblins, and other creatures such as beholders, illithids, and various humanoids)</p><p> Independant Beholders</p><p> Bullywugs (if someone is masochist enough to play them) </p><p> Chitines (probably chaotic good, now...) ?</p><p> Independant Constructs (gemstone golems, tomb tappers, possible other sentient constructs -- see</p><p> "questions" above)</p><p> Doppelgangers</p><p> Dragonkin</p><p> Subterraneans Dwarves (Derros, Duergar, Urdunnir)</p><p> Firenewt (probably not numerous nor powerful enough to be played)</p><p> Ghaunadan (now good-aligned, and leading sentient oozes ?)</p><p> Giants (several factions here)</p><p> Giant Eagles and Owls</p><p> Gibberlings ? (please tell me no) </p><p> Grells</p><p> Grimlock (or are them among Forrester's humanoids ?) </p><p> Groundling ?</p><p> Hags</p><p> Harpy ?</p><p> Kuo-toa (probably neutral good, now...)</p><p> Locathah</p><p> Meazel ?</p><p> Medusa ?</p><p> Merfolk</p><p> Minotaurs (à la dragonlance ?)</p><p> Naga (but we can assume some are sided with the yuan-ti)</p><p> Pterafolk ?</p><p> Quaggoth (probably neutral good, now) ?</p><p> Sahuagin</p><p> Shalarin ?</p><p> Siv ?</p><p> Sphinx ?</p><p> Stinger ?</p><p> Triton</p><p> Umber Hulk (probably chaotic good, now...)</p><p> Winter wolves and worgs (they're not subterranean -- so still evil -- and are quite smart)</p><p> Wemic ? </p><p></p><p> Posts: 1492 | From: Somewhere in France | Registered: Dec 2000 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Forrester </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 2760 </p><p> posted December 07, 2001 02:12 PM </p><p></p><p></p><p> quote:</p><p></p><p> Originally posted by Gez:</p><p> Questions:</p><p></p><p> Are there still Drow ? Last time I heard of them, they were in the ships of the Elves</p><p> (vaporized) and those of the humanoids (vaporized also).</p><p> ...</p><p></p><p> Speaking of deities, most of the power base for Shar was the humanoids (when they</p><p> were still evil and light-hating), and she has lost them after the 7-year war. </p><p></p><p></p><p> You just don't know your history, do you!</p><p></p><p> The Humanoid ships went Ethereal as the nukes were hitting; they are all quite alive. </p><p></p><p> The Humanoids in general numbered, before this last war, 250,000,000 strong. We survived the</p><p> 7-years war, and survived quite well, thank you. </p><p></p><p> And the vast majority of my people are secular in faith, preferring to worship at the altars of</p><p> technology, science, and psionics. Shar Schmar. </p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p> Peacemaker </p><p></p><p> Posts: 713 | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 1304771, member: 2020"] [b](Post 35) The Second IR[/b] - - - - - Bagguns Member Member # 523 posted December 07, 2001 09:07 AM Actually Moriartty, we already Chaos Wave'd the demiplane of New Umbra, just waiting for some effect explanations by Edena...you're more than welcome to add your power to the wave however. [ December 07, 2001: Message edited by: Bagguns ] -------------------- Evolve or Die. Entropy Sucks. Posts: 192 | From: Cookstown/McGuire AFB, NJ | Registered: Dec 2000 | IP: Logged - - - - - DocMoriartty Member Member # 8593 posted December 07, 2001 09:15 AM I have not been on since yesterday in the afternoon so I missed a lot. It seems my lack of attention after closing the crystal sphere has caused some problems and given some help. Originally posted by Bagguns: Actually Moriartty, we already Chaos Wave'd the demiplane of New Umbra, just waiting for some effect explanations by Edena...you're more than welcome to add your power to the wave however. [ December 07, 2001: Message edited by: Bagguns ] Posts: 139 | From: Chicago burbs | Registered: Nov 2001 [ December 07, 2001: Message edited by: Edena_of_Neith ] Posts: 1620 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member Member # 1235 posted December 07, 2001 09:50 AM Rulings: My apologies to Riot Gear. I erred, mistaking your intent. Unfortunately, the mistake cannot be taken back or rectified ... it must be played out now. Ao cannot stop the war. I have kept the Gods out of this, and Ao must also remain neutral. Ao is free to give advice and warnings, but not to act. - - - The illithid of New Umbra were able to successfully transfer their demi-plane to Toril before the Slaadi could set off a Chaos Wave in it. Now, the Slaadi could set off a Chaos Wave against it now, but said Chaos Wave would affect all of Realmspace. The choice is yours. - - - There are too many people attempting Planar Travel for any restraints to hold up. All attempts to block Planar Travel fail; excepting only that the Sigilians can block the portals from Realmspace to Sigil and vice versa. - - - I would like to point out that the Technocracy has not yet agreed to pay the Yuan-Ti for their help; I must assume the Yuan-Ti are NOT helping yet because they have not been paid. The Gnomes, indeed, have apparently advised the Technocracy not to pay the Yuan-Ti. [ December 07, 2001: Message edited by: Edena_of_Neith ] Posts: 1620 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged DocMoriartty Member Member # 8593 posted December 07, 2001 09:59 AM Ok, then I jump into the fray as described above. Including Moriartty himself sitting back and waiting to act if the Chaos wave is unleashed. Posts: 157 | From: Chicago burbs | Registered: Nov 2001 | IP: Logged Aloïsius Member Member # 2977 posted December 07, 2001 10:00 AM OoC, To Joren: Illithids do not belongs to Toril, they come frome another material plane, and were not the creation of Ao. In fact, Ao has only created the place where lies Toril. All the further creation were the work of Selûne and Shar, and then the other gods and godesses. As for the problem of fiends reacting to the angels intervention, it is very unlikely, because of the blood wars between the Devils and the Demons. Be sure they will watch with delight the destruction, as each time hate push beings against each other, it strengthens them, but I doubt they will interfere. And by the way, why did Ao interfere now, and not before ? That's not consistent. As for asking the Illithids to act in a way that would prevent Armaggedon... They are trying to destroy Toril and bring Armaggedon on it, as this place threatens their way of life (at least, with the NeoIllithids and the converted LG deep illithids, that's how they see it). However, if the problem is the angels intervention, they should know it, and be able to act accordingly, coming back to their home plane. I will soon quit my computer for week end, and won't be here before Sunday evening. I will let Gez lead my camps. Posts: 356 | From: Montpellier, France | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged DocMoriartty Member Member # 8593 posted December 07, 2001 10:02 AM Ok, then I jump into the fray as described above. The Sharn and Sigilians who were attempting to keep Toril closed will join their fellows so all 13 strike groups are working together on this. Including Moriartty himself sitting back and waiting to act if the Chaos wave is unleashed. [ December 07, 2001: Message edited by: DocMoriartty ] Posts: 157 | From: Chicago burbs | Registered: Nov 2001 | IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member Member # 1235 posted December 07, 2001 10:03 AM (this post saved for possible future use) [ December 07, 2001: Message edited by: Edena_of_Neith ] Posts: 1620 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged Bagguns Member Member # 523 posted December 07, 2001 10:05 AM No, no Chaos Wave then...just killing Illithids and then going back to Limbo after the mop up is completed, also the following that I posted back on the opther thread before I realized you created this one. POST FROM OTHER THREAD FOR EDENA: You tell some one to watch their mouth because they don't speak for everyone and they chomp at the bit to annihilate your entire race, what is Toril coming to? You make plain to everyone that after the Illithids are taken care of you're leaving and they decide to take the battle to your home plane, mages are so touchy! Anyways, I guess it's time for Operation: Fortress Limbo. The Slaadi who have stayed behind to "garrison" Limbo begin to use Chaos shaping in order to fortify the plane from counterattack by the Umbral Illithid. 1) We change the "natural laws" of the plane to make it harder (trying for impossible) to use psionic powers in Limbo 2) All Slaadi "cities" are protected by four-fold elemental spheres, passable to those with Chaos shaping better than the Slaadi (good luck) or those the Slaadi decide to let through. 3) Likely entry points are bathed in roiling seas of Chaos...have a nice swim! (Not inside the cities though) 4) Use of Ethereal plane to enter the plane will automatically be detected and pinpointed by inahbitants of Limbo. 5) Wards and innate spell powers are used to set up traps just outside of the Chaos Seas and secure areas inside the cities, Slaadi may pass these wards but no other. -------------------- Evolve or Die. Entropy Sucks. Posts: 194 | From: Cookstown/McGuire AFB, NJ | Registered: Dec 2000 | IP: Logged zouron Member Member # 3707 posted December 07, 2001 10:21 AM well edena you know my troops plan, piece through the defence with all we got sorta one point blitzkrieger, straight into center, detonate whatever we have left at the time of the finding the general location of the elder brain, and blast everything off giving usself minimum time to get away through magic/psionic/whatever. and no concern is shown to other forces... this needs to be won at all cost... and my character personally see that it does happened. -------------------- Alone is something we all are only far away voices breaks the silence whom wish to escape this labyrinth of loneliness we fumble our way, but finds nothing because here are no walls only the fear's angst keeps us apart Posts: 172 | From: Hvidovre, Denmark | Registered: Apr 2001 | IP: Logged Phasmus Member Member # 2639 posted December 07, 2001 10:26 AM I have missed much in sleep... The Deep Illithid and their former thralls have been fighting against the Umbran Illithid from the very start... and doing little else, as indicated earlier. Posts: 82 | From: Oregon | Registered: Feb 2001 | IP: Logged Alzem Dalcama Member Member # 893 posted December 07, 2001 10:27 AM Edena, do not forget that all of my Maurt's are still on the Island there to protect it. Also those people on the Island are not called to fight in this war, they went to the Island for peace and we will not ask them to leave it to enter a war. Let them live out their lives in peace. Also we will start bringing in our Crystal Golumns to fight the Illithid. Also any Brain Moles that we can locate we will send to thier demi-plane to assualt them. [ December 07, 2001: Message edited by: Alzem Dalcama ] Posts: 534 | From: Gastonia, NC USA - Proud to be an AMERICAN | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged Gez Member Member # 444 posted December 07, 2001 11:14 AM Let see. The forces massed against the Umbran Illithids are: *The illusory Slaadi, Chaos Beasts, Titans, Eladrins and Djinni (even if they're illusory, the deal real damages to the mindflayed mindflayers); *The Gnomes, with their strike team of technodruids, technorangers, paladins, illusionist wizards, clerics and golems; *The Magocracy of Zouron, with (former ?) undead and wizards; *The real Slaadi; *The real Eladrins; *The Archons led by Alzem; *The NeoIllithids; *The converted Deep Illithids; *The Sharn; *The Sigillians; *"The" Larloch and his buddies; *and others that I forget. The Illithids that havn't retreated to defend the Elder Brain are assaulted by the forces of the Technomancy, the Reborn Elves, and in fact most everyone who happen to be near a mindflayer. Seeing that, the Yuan-ti perform a quick computation. Then, they try to estimate the amount of relics, artifacts, magic items, and lore arcane, divine or psionic in the vault of New Umbra. They decide to engage the Illithids here, even if the Prime Minister didn't sign the paper. They want to be the first to loot New Umbra. Meanwhile, another power, that was unnoticed until now, react. These strange creatures have always been the concurrent of the illithids. Their exact goals are unknow, as their mind have always been to alien to be understood by the other races, and noone never successfully communicated with them, but one can estimate their current objective is similar to the Yuan-ti's one. So, the Cloacker enter in the dance, passing through the Plane of Shadow to attack the (few remaining) umbran illithids. The gnomes, since they now have Larloch's help, can coordinate their action with Zouron. They have their own nuclear warhead, and are protected by nondetection, mindblank, invisibility and obscure object spells, but Larloch, thanks to the Gnome Rep, have localized them and sent one of his lich to their side, as well as another to the side of Zouron's strike team. The former-undead, still part of Larloch's mental net, provide both sides (and of course Mister L) with the informations they need to coordinate their strike. The Lathanderite church reincarnate or raise their fallen members, and gather informations as well as forces for the next move. They are suspicious of the Shade, and think that there will not be enough illithids for everyone that want to squish some squid. [ December 07, 2001: Message edited by: Gez ] Posts: 1492 | From: Somewhere in France | Registered: Dec 2000 | IP: Logged Lord Talos Member Member # 5533 posted December 07, 2001 11:34 AM Suddenly on Toril, a portal opens from The Plane Of Shadow and an enormous nightwalker comes from within, his shape of absolute darkness, emanting an aura of emptiness and cold. He sends a telepathic message to the all forces on Toril, suddenly all hear his voice and feel like an icicle piercing through their very hearts: KNOW THAT EVERYONE THAT SHALL ASSAULT THE PLANE OF SHADOW WILL MEET OURS, SHADOW`S, RESPONSE FOR LONG AGO NETHERESE MADE A PACT WITH OUR RULERS AND THEY THEMSELVES BECAME A CREATURES OF THE SHADOW. THEREFORE WE WILL DEPLOY A FORCE TO PROTECT THE CITY OF THE SHADES. power level of shadows protecting city of the Shades-40, 200 if Shadowlords( who rule the plane) declare total war. Posts: 206 | Registered: Jun 2001 | IP: Logged Forrester Member Member # 2760 posted December 07, 2001 11:41 AM quote: Originally posted by Lord Talos: power level of shadows protecting city of the Shades-40, 200 if Shadowlords( who rule the plane) declare total war. You must be new to this . For obvious reasons, you don't get to declare your own power level, my good man . . . and/or set it equal or greater to the most powerful forces currently in this war. That's up to Edena The Exhausted to do. Posts: 713 | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged Forrester Member Member # 2760 posted December 07, 2001 11:46 AM quote: Originally posted by Gez: Let see. The forces massed against the Umbran Illithids are: *The illusory Slaadi, Chaos Beasts, Titans, Eladrins and Djinni (even if they're illusory, the deal real damages to the mindflayed mindflayers); *The Gnomes, with their strike team of technodruids, technorangers, paladins, illusionist wizards, clerics and golems; *The Magocracy of Zouron, with (former ?) undead and wizards; *The real Slaadi; *The real Eladrins; *The Archons led by Alzem; *The NeoIllithids; *The converted Deep Illithids; *The Sharn; *"The" Larloch and his buddies; *and others that I forget. Um, there are *quite* a few Humanoids down there helping out as well . Now that the Netherese idiots are gone, the only threat left is the Illithid, and we are going at them full-force. You'll need our psionics to help shield you from the evil squid-heads (as opposed to the good squid-heads, sorry about the racial slur!). Yes, they are more powerful psionically than we are, but with the combined forces of our psioncists, the Deep Illithid, and the NeoIllithid, I think we are their psionic equals. And with the combined might of everyone else fighting them . . . they can't stand for long. Forrester Peacemaker [ December 07, 2001: Message edited by: Forrester ] Posts: 713 | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged Larloch the Former UltraLich Member Member # 8874 posted December 07, 2001 11:46 AM Edena, I, Larloch, use my arcane power to destroy each magical or psionical protections around the Elder Brain. Those of my liches that were good in illusion or enchantment help strengthen the gnomish spells that makes the illithid brain insane and makes it see enemies everywhere. As soon as no more protections are left, I'll engage it in mental combat, in order to prevent it from coordinating its illithids and give it the headach of its life. Normally, it won't be able to sense the golem burrowing their wat into its neurons. The pain, confusion, and illusions of the brain should much confuse the umbran illithids, who should be far less effective, and really confused by the contradictory or illogical orders, and by the illusions they sense through their constant telepathy with the brain. Meanwhile, two of my liches works to coordinate the action of Zouron's strike team and the gnome strike team (I think that the fact the gnomes were the first to go in the illithid lairs, and that they used spells to prevent the illithids from discovering them make them nearer to their objective than Zouron's, so I'll concentrate on them). My living elder vampires and my other living liches and various living undead are eradicating all non-good mindflayer on Toril, the Astral plane, the Ethereal plane, the Shadow plane, and New Umbra. As soon as the Evil Illithids are eradicated from Realmspace, I'll start to watch very carefully the Shades, the Phaerimms, the Unseely and the other evil factions. After all, I'm neutral good, now. By the way, some questions, as it's not clear. It seems every underground creature has had its evil extirped. So, the phaerimm and independant beholders (we haven't seen them much), notably, should be good now. As the phaerimm that were not in the underground were in space, fighting the elves, and have seemingly been vaporized, should we consider the evil phaerimm are no a minority ? ((OOC: I also wonder about the duergar and derros, probably good also. Noone played them, so, if I contact them, could I get to play them ? Were derros annihilated when "the sun raised inside Toril", or have them lost their sunlight vulnerability ? And by the way, I assume my vampires don't suffer from sunlight, now that they're alive, yet still with their vampire powers (much like the elves keeped their ghostly or spectrely powers, even after been resurrected).)) Posts: 2 | Registered: Dec 2001 | IP: Logged Lord Talos Member Member # 5533 posted December 07, 2001 12:18 PM Well Shadows are the natives of The Plane of Shadow( I know this isn`t exactly canon D@D) and Edena listed the powers of Slaadi, Demons, Devils, Faerie etc at around 200 max. Posts: 206 | Registered: Jun 2001 | IP: Logged Gez Member Member # 444 posted December 07, 2001 12:29 PM The Bullywugs prophetised by the Gnome Rep, have sensed too that Toril was under threat of destruction. Havin been smartered by the Rituals of the Four Churches, they quickly created some weapons. And now, the bullywugs are ready to save Toril. Now, the bullywugs sail in their "glorious" improvised spelljammers, and head toward the Elven Fleet of Vengeance, in order to destroy it before they can erase all life on Toril. Well, even if they've been smartered by the Ritual, they are Bullywugs, no ? Assuming their barely flying water lilies (yes, that's what they used for spelljammer) are able to reach space, only to see that all spacial combat is ended since a long time, they'll crash back in their marsh and wonder why they still sense danger. OOC: Yes, I thought we needed a small comical relief to shield the young spectators from all the gory violence of the screen as the squidboys are smashed, squished, toasted, dissolved, disintegrated, blasted, and otherwise machine-gunned. We don't want that thread to be restricted to the less than 18 years because of the mass slaughter of obnoxious anthroquadropii. Call that a discreet interlude. Posts: 1492 | From: Somewhere in France | Registered: Dec 2000 | IP: Logged Gez Member Member # 444 posted December 07, 2001 01:44 PM Questions: Since all creatures in the Underdark have been cleaned of all evil and hatred (and thus turned to good alignment): Are there still Drow ? Last time I heard of them, they were in the ships of the Elves (vaporized) and those of the humanoids (vaporized also). Normally, all drows are dead. If there was some hidden in the underdark, they are logically now of good alignment. Lolth and her underlings are gonna be very pissed -- but well, she's nothing more in the Realms. Eilistraee will get her place in the hierarchy. If there's no more drows, Lolth is dead also. Other creatures that worship her, driders and chitines, live in the Underdark... Speaking of deities, most of the power base for Shar was the humanoids (when they were still evil and light-hating), and she has lost them after the 7-year war. Now that all underdark denizens (we can estimate that this is 85% of the remnant of her followers) are good, they won't continue to worship her. Shar will probably be downranked to lesser power, and this will in all likelihood weaken her Shadow Weave, and thus weaken the magic of the Shade (a good number of them use the Shadow Weave). The beholders (those that were not enslaved by phaerimm) will probably join the mess, and do what they could to restore peace and order. They've probably heard of what has happened through their spy networks (in thieves guilds, for example), and will probably be interested also by the treasure of the illithids. This question is important for druids (and technodruids, hehe): all creatures on Toril gained 3 points in Intelligence. Does this include animals (who would so have between 4 and 5 Int) ? Has it awakened vermins (no Int score) and oozes (no Int score) to sentience (the oozes are said to have been sentient before the Elder Elemental God (or was it Juiblex ? Bah, they're all aliases for avatars of Tharizdun) absorbed their intellect and consciousness to become the god he is. So, it is possible that they have gained sentience back (it will be very strange to have to deal with intelligent gelatinous cubes or giant centipedes). Same questions for constructs ? That's less likely, because they are not living, but well... Maybe the objects animated by wandering ravids over the times would benefit from that, rather than golems ? And what about sentient golems (Alias, the gemstone golems, the tomb tappers) ? Have they received the Int bonus also ? End of questions. Since the creature of the Plane of Shadow are protecting the Shadovars (I've heard it's the name of the citizen of Shade), the Lathanderite considers what they will need to fight them. After all, Shadow creatures are often undead, bring despair, and are associated to darkness (ooc: the WotC designers don't seems to think that shadow is made of light and darkness in equal portion, otherwise there would have been Brightlands as well as Darklands in the PoS), all things that Lathander opposes to. Furthermore, if Shar's power -- and more importantly, the size of her clergy -- have effectively been reduced, the fight will not be as tough as it would have been otherwise. However, they are not eager to fight, they need to recover their magical strengthes, and they want their allies to have their full abilities too. The gnomes are occupied with the illithids, but once the mindflaying threat is ended, if the Netherese needs to be destroyed, they will gleefully attack them. After all, gnomes were enslaved by the Netheril arcanists, and they don't have kind feelings toward the survivor of Netheril. If a coalition is made against Shade, the Yuan-ti will offer their help again. And, if the Shade are losing even without their help, they will engage the combat against them to loot their arcane lore, just like what they did with the Illithids. The reaction of other survivors of Netheril, Larloch, the nation of Halruaa and the one of Nimbral, are less previsible, but we can guess Larloch will act against the Shades (he's good, now), and it's possible the other also (out of greed for the Shadovar's secrets, or out of fear that they would have to obey to the Shades' rules). However, they could as well decide to join the Shade "as good old fellows of the Mighty Netheril" (fearing that the Shade are more powerful than them, and thinking that it's better to join them voluntarily than to be forced into slavery, or out of lust for the arcane knowledge of the Shadovar they could grab by working with them). As for the position of the Cloakers in a fight against the Shade, it's totally unknown. They are being from the Plane of Shadow too, but they've never allied or communicated with any other race. Noone can say if they'll attack one side, the other, or just ignore the events. For Edena or new players, here are the other possible factions that have not been claimed: Aaracokra Alaghi ? Araneas Asabi ? The Beast Lord of Dekanter (another powerful spellcaster, probably good now, leading an army of gargoyles, modified goblins, and other creatures such as beholders, illithids, and various humanoids) Independant Beholders Bullywugs (if someone is masochist enough to play them) Chitines (probably chaotic good, now...) ? Independant Constructs (gemstone golems, tomb tappers, possible other sentient constructs -- see "questions" above) Doppelgangers Dragonkin Subterraneans Dwarves (Derros, Duergar, Urdunnir) Firenewt (probably not numerous nor powerful enough to be played) Ghaunadan (now good-aligned, and leading sentient oozes ?) Giants (several factions here) Giant Eagles and Owls Gibberlings ? (please tell me no) Grells Grimlock (or are them among Forrester's humanoids ?) Groundling ? Hags Harpy ? Kuo-toa (probably neutral good, now...) Locathah Meazel ? Medusa ? Merfolk Minotaurs (à la dragonlance ?) Naga (but we can assume some are sided with the yuan-ti) Pterafolk ? Quaggoth (probably neutral good, now) ? Sahuagin Shalarin ? Siv ? Sphinx ? Stinger ? Triton Umber Hulk (probably chaotic good, now...) Winter wolves and worgs (they're not subterranean -- so still evil -- and are quite smart) Wemic ? Posts: 1492 | From: Somewhere in France | Registered: Dec 2000 | IP: Logged Forrester Member Member # 2760 posted December 07, 2001 02:12 PM quote: Originally posted by Gez: Questions: Are there still Drow ? Last time I heard of them, they were in the ships of the Elves (vaporized) and those of the humanoids (vaporized also). ... Speaking of deities, most of the power base for Shar was the humanoids (when they were still evil and light-hating), and she has lost them after the 7-year war. You just don't know your history, do you! The Humanoid ships went Ethereal as the nukes were hitting; they are all quite alive. The Humanoids in general numbered, before this last war, 250,000,000 strong. We survived the 7-years war, and survived quite well, thank you. And the vast majority of my people are secular in faith, preferring to worship at the altars of technology, science, and psionics. Shar Schmar. Forrester Peacemaker Posts: 713 | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged [/QUOTE]
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