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<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 1304783" data-attributes="member: 2020">(Post 41) The Second IREdena_of_Neith &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 1235 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 08, 2001 06:59 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Ruling:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Church of Toril, as it calls itself, does absorb Hanali Celanil, and it absorbs some of the other&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; dieties whose portfolios are in agreement with it's principals (but this takes months to happen, and in&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; some cases years.)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; However, Gond the Wonderbringer is not absorbed, because it was Gond who brought technology to&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Toril, or so say the gnomes, and his Church has become huge.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; It has become so huge that most gnomes belong to it, and many non-gnomes belong to it.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Eilistraee gains a great following among the drow, who are unfamiliar with the surface as of yet, and so&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; she becomes a great power.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Church of Compassion that is founded after the death of Ian Payne sweeps up most of the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; followers of several Faerunian Gods, stripping them of their power.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Kelemvor is a big loser, especially since his people did not perform the burial, and since he is seen as&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; harsh and uncaring.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The followers of Immater also flock to the new church.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Torm the True is another God who loses big, as honesty, keeping the trust, courage, and honor, were&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; all embodied in Ian Payne, and the Angels of the new Church still light his tomb.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The dark Gods suffer very badly as people eschew them for the Church of Toril, the Church of&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Compassion, and the new rising powers such as Eilistraee.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Loviatar is almost wiped out, since there has been all too much pain and suffering (it gets so bad&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Loviatar starts thinking of joining with Sharess, and turning to good alignment ...)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Malar the Beastlord loses out totally, his followers either dead in the war, or abandoning him, or&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; hunted down by people outraged from too much war.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The followers of Cyric perished for the most part in the war, and those that remain are very unpopular,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; and a massive attempt is made to convert them.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Church of Bane remains, but it is drastically weakened, for the common people don't wish tyranny,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; and they see in the UC and the Church of Compassion a way to escape tyranny, and Bane's people&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; can't hold them.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Bane's people are few, because most died in the war, and those that remain are frowned upon as&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; idiots.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Nobody prays to Umberlee anymore, either.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Auril the Frostmaiden was totally wiped out and no longer exists as a power on Toril.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Tempus still remains, but he is greatly weakened. People are tired of war.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Helm the Watcher does not weaken.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The idea of keeping guard, protecting Realmspace with Guardians, protecting the avenues of approach&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; from the Planes with Watchers, is big amongst the military and even the common people, and Helm&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; flourishes amidst the respectful prayers of these people.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The balance of Realmspace shifts heavily towards Good.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; - - -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; When the phaerimm (and, I am guessing, the sharn) return with reports that the Shadow Fleet is&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; threatening Toril, demanding this and this be done or else, THERE IS MASSIVE ANGER AND A FIRM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; RESOLVE AND UNITY AGAINST THEM.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Chosen who had asked for neutrality, offer their services to the UC.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; More countries from Kara-Tur offer to join or ally with the UC.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; More countries from the other 4 continents offer to join the UC unconditionally, or to ally with it.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Even the neutral scro of Selune are infuriated, and although they remember with anger the massacre&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; of their people by the UC, they offer to ally with them against these extraplanr interlopers.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; An argument breaks out amongst the phaerimm.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Some of the phaerimm were not caught in the High Ritual, while many more were.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The phaerimm not caught, remain anti-social as phaerimm always were, but those that were caught,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; become social.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The argument ends with some of the phaerimm returning to live in isolation in the Underdark, but the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; majority actually start to show up in civilized society, albeit cautiously.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The phaerimm begin to modify their beholder slaves, to make them into beings who can tolerate each&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; other and other races (currently, that is not possible, if you know beholders!)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The phaerimm are trying to make the race they created into one that can be assimilated into society.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Until they do, they will not release their slaves from slavery; it would be too dangerous to the people&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; of Toril. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 1620 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena_of_Neith &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 1235 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 08, 2001 07:05 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; It is not the ending yet, Lord Talos.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Shades see that the Church of Toril is jumping the gun (about gathering dieties in) and angering&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the dieties.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The resolution of the elves and humanoids is yet to be decided: that is up to Forrester.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The scro have not joined the UC; they remember the slaughter of their people in the war.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The clergy of Shar that yet remain on Toril communicate in secret to the Shades, telling them of all&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; events that are happening.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The clergy of Shar think that the current euphoria and goodwill will not last, and that the final peace&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; conference can be disrupted and wrecked.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The clergy of Shar believe these weak mortals will again succumb to the temptation to commit violence&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; against their own, that hatred and predudice will win out, that memories are short and the desire to kill&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; is forever.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The clergy of Shar also report that the phaerimm/sharn blockade of Realmspace, although powerful&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; and growing more so, is not so powerful the Fleet of Shade could not penetrate it by force.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; However, they report that unleashing a wave of Negative Energy on Realmspace would not be a good&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; idea: their divinations suggest the Angels might return and stop it, then retaliate against the Shades.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; As for whether Shades will be allowed to live in Realmspace, that can be decided in two ways: either by&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; war or by the peace conference (although the Shades are not invited to it, one of the clergy of Shar IS&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (she is not given a choice) so that the Shades have a spokesperson.)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The choice, is yours.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [ December 08, 2001: Message edited by: Edena_of_Neith ]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 1620 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena_of_Neith &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 1235 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 08, 2001 07:15 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The matter of the trial of the one remaining evil illithid was meant semi-humorously.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Please go ahead and post concerning this.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I am curious as to what you people will decide.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The situation with the Fleet of Shade threatens another war.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Since nobody WANTS another war, you are going to have to make arrangements to deter the Shades,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; no?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; They are at the peace conference in the form of a young lady who is a priestess of Shar; she will&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; speak for them.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Speak your will on this matter!&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I need to know if the Magocracy and Humanoid Alliance remain independent or join the UC.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I especially need Forrester's reaction to the behavior of the elves as noted in the post above.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (It is only the elves of Evermeet who had been shades who are reacting with such incredible&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; friendliness; the elves of Evereska remember what happened in the Seven Year War, and they are&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; wary and cautious, but they are willing to make a lasting peace.)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Church of Toril will be challenged for supremacy by the Church of Compassion.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Hopefully, it will be a peaceful coexistence.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Hopefully, neither Church will discriminate against the smaller denominations, of Oghma, Eilistraee,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Gond, and the others. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 1620 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Lord Talos &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 5533 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 08, 2001 08:07 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Shar and Mask strike down the weakened Cyric, destroying him and taking all his portfolios. Merging&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; these portfolios with their own the unified Church of Shadow is created, while Shar takes deception and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; lies and Mask takes intrigue back, adding illusions, taking him back to intermediate status. . They&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; invite other non-chaotic evil Gods to join, since only in union they can survive. Talona swtches to NE&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; and joins The Church, taking the betreyal portfofolio from Gargauth whose other portfolios belong now&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; to Shar( Gargauth didn`t want to join and was destoyed). Bane, losing almost all followers had no&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; other choice but to join, becoming an Intermediate Power and losing hatred to Shar. Loviatar joins and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; so does Velshaaron. Malar who lost almost all followers promises to become less chaotic and gains&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; murder portfolio from Cyric. Talos doesn`t join and hopes to survive on his own. Shar becomes the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; most powerful single Greater Power, far stronger than Mystra.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Shadow Church is an unified church, with LE/NE alignment, with single hierarchy, a cleric may&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; choose one of the Shadow Gods, as a patron, but doesn`t have, power from worship is mostly&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; distributed based on rank( Shar gets the most).&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Church of Shadow hopes to attract many humanoids and humans, who are either power hungry or&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; full of hatred, and waits to exploit other weaknesses for they own gains, ambitious politicians, those&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; who suffered and want retriburion, evil rogues,ambitious mages who dwell in necromancy and shadow&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; magic. In the land where they not rule they will plot in secrecy to place cultists in the position of power.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; They are allied with forces from the Plane Of Shadow, some of them desire transformation into a&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Shade.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [ December 08, 2001: Message edited by: Lord Talos ]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [ December 08, 2001: Message edited by: Lord Talos ]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 206 | Registered: Jun 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Lord Talos &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 5533 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 08, 2001 08:17 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; And a plan to use a shadow weave is abandomed. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 206 | Registered: Jun 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Lord Talos &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 5533 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 08, 2001 08:18 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; And a plan to use a shadow/negative energy wave is abandomed(ignore above post).&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [ December 08, 2001: Message edited by: Lord Talos ]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 206 | Registered: Jun 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Lord Talos &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 5533 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 08, 2001 08:49 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The priestess of Shar, representing the entire Church of the Shadow, sitsnear her allies, a menacing&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; nightwalker representing Shadowlords and one of the surviving Netherese archmages.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Edena, now the Shadow Gods want to strike weakened Kelemrevor and seize his portfolios, if they&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; suceed they could equal two other churches in power. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 206 | Registered: Jun 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Semirhage &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 8099 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 08, 2001 09:02 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Valkys speaks for the Unseelie Court, since technically, he was granted power by Oberon to see this&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; through, &quot;The Unseelie will not join the UC. We will not oppose it, and plan to send an ambassador to&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; maintain diplomatic ties. As I have been appointed leader of the Unseelie here on Toril, I shall do my&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; utmost to gather the Unseelie who rebelled under my command. My dragon allies also choose not to&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; join the UC, but will send their own ambassador.&quot; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 34 | Registered: Oct 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Gez &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 444 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 08, 2001 09:13 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;The gnomish nations do not ask to join, because they wish to continue their experiments, and fear UC laws&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; would stop them, but they offer alliance with the UC.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Grr. I said about 12 times that the gnomes are part of the Commonwealth. Furthermore, my gnomes&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; being Neutral Good, they won't do any experiments that is contrary to their ideals -- and I really doubt&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; an experiment that's OK with the NG dogma can be illegal in any way. If we've learned something from&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the 7-year war, it is that you don't introduce an innovation until it's perfect enough so that it won't hurt&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; anyone.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; So, the gnomish nation don't ask to join, because they have already joined. A lonjg time ago, it was&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; on the other thread.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &gt;However, Gond the Wonderbringer is not absorbed, because it was Gond who brought technology to Toril, or&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; so say the gnomes, and his Church has become huge.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; It has become so huge that most gnomes belong to it, and many non-gnomes belong to it.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Grr. I said the churches of the gnomes were joining the Church of Toril. And the Church of Gond also,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; because it is a Gnome Church, and because they want the teaching of Gond to be the teaching of Toril.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Church of Toril is to represent what Toril is, and if technology and craft is important to Toril, the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Church of Gond is important to the Church of Toril.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I'd like to actually play my gnomes. I talk only of things that I personnaly control, the Gnomes and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the Church of Toril; not like Lord Talos who decide what happens about all the evil deities, including&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; portfolio and alignment change (forgetting, by the way, that the deity can't intervene in anything; only&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; their churches and clerics).&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Angry Gez&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Post-Scriptum: The Church of Toril give full protection to the Church of Kelemvor. Kelemvor is a&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; non-evil god of protection, and his teaching are so respected and venered by the Church of Toril. We&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; asks the threatened Church of Kelemvor to join the One Church of Toril. By the way, we also ask the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Church of Compassion to join the Church of Toril, because we do value and worship compassion as well&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; as protection, justice, freedom, renewal, knowledge, life, joy, and hope.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [ December 08, 2001: Message edited by: Gez ]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 1492 | From: Somewhere in France | Registered: Dec 2000&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Lord Talos &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 5533 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 08, 2001 09:16 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I made a mistake in one of above posts, Church OF Shadow is NE/LE, sorry for confusion. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 206 | Registered: Jun 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 2760 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 08, 2001 09:31 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; quote:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Originally posted by Edena_of_Neith:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Amlaruil kisses Forrester, long and deeply.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; That gesture ignites her people, who laugh and cheer, then dance and sing in&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; celebration.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; They whisk the humanoids around them into their dance, and it seems to the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; humanoids that these could not possibly be elves - or if they are, they have all gone&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; mad.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Some of the elves start talking about new cities, where elves and humanoids live&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; together.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Others take that up, and talk of the elven ceremonies, and how the humanoids would&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; fit in great.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; But then others talk about how the elves would fit in great into the humanoid&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; ceremonies, and they ask to join the humanoid community!!&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; IMPORTANT: How Forrester and the Humanoids handle this, is crucial.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Of course, the Shamans of Gruumsh look upon all this warily, as one might expect.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The elves do not go so far as to praise Gruumsh, but then again ... they do not attack&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; him or say anything bad about him, either.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Heh heh heh. Millions of defenseless easily-surprised elves in Humanoid-land. How else can I handle&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; it?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; We invite them to dinner. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; . . . and afterwards, we invite them to join us, and live among us, as equals. The fighting has gone on&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; for too long . . . FAR too long. They fought with us against their own kind, in order to save our lives.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The time is long since past to bury the hatchet. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; And it goes without saying, the Humanoid Alliance would like to become full members in the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Commonwealth. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Forrester&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Peacemaker &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [Back this evening . . . ]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; EDIT: The Church of Gruumsh matters litle to us at this point. As I noted previously, we have been&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; slipping away from worshipping gods, instead turning inward to worship the study of psionics and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; technology. Our society, before this war, was mostly secular in nature. While this assimilation may not&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; be easy for some of my people, religious differences are not going to be a big part of the problem. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 713 | Registered: Mar 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Lord Talos &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 5533 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 08, 2001 09:47 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; What about the conference? &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 206 | Registered: Jun 2001&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Gez &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 444 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 08, 2001 09:52 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Who's the DM, here ? Edena or Talos ?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Shar and Mask strike down the weakened Cyric, destroying him and taking all his portfolios.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; If Edena says so.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Merging these portfolios with their own the unified Church of Shadow is created, while Shar takes deception&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; and lies and Mask takes intrigue back, adding illusions, taking him back to intermediate status.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; If Edena says so.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; They invite other non-chaotic evil Gods to join, since only in union they can survive.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Bwahahahahahahahahahaha !!! The sacred union of evil is just to ridiculous ! Evil is not about helping&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; other or strength through unity. Hey, that's a good behavior. If there are evil, they won't join or ally&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; themselves. They'll all hope they'll be the sole survivor evil god.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Talona switches to NE&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; If Edena says so.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; and joins The Church,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; If Edena says so.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; taking the betreyal portfofolio from Gargauth whose other portfolios belong now to Shar&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; She tests her new betrayal portfolio by killing Shar. Bwahahah. She then begin to ally with and betray&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; all other evil powers, until one, bored, send her to Greyhawk where she's slain by Wastri the Hoping&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Prophet, god of Bullywugs. If Edena says so, of course.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (Gargauth didn't wanted to join and was destroyed).&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; If Edena says so.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Bane, losing almost all followers had no other choice but to join, becoming an Intermediate Power and losing&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; hatred to Shar.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; If Edena says so. Bane, as a deity of hatred and tyranny, would gladly die rather than becoming the&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; underling of anyone. He would just hate those trying to command him (the greatest blasphemy he can&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; conceive is to give orders to him), and if he join an united church, it would be only as the leader of&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; said church. Which would be soon after renammed Church of Bane.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Loviatar joins&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Last time Edena talked about Loviatar, she was considering switching to Good and joining Sharess in&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the One Church. She could get the portfolio of exotic sexual practice and unordothox fantasms. Not&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; all-encompassing, sure.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; and so does Velsharoon. Malar who lost almost all followers promises to become less chaotic&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; If Edena says so.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; and gains murder portfolio from Cyric.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; If Edena says so.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Talos doesn't join and hopes to survive on his own.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Who else find that funny ? (OOC)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Shar becomes the most powerful single Greater Power, far stronger than Mystra.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Except Shar was no more a Greater Power since she lost all humanoid followers after the 7-Year war.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; She probably lose yet other when the Netherese betrayed Toril (and were humiliated). And she&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; probably will lose even more as secrets are not very popular these times (with the Phaerimm and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Illithids sharing their lore with the UC, the time is not for secrecy anymore). &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 1492 | From: Somewhere in France | Registered: Dec 2000&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Gez &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Member # 444 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; posted December 08, 2001 10:41 AM&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Yuan-Ti, who know better than others, remain quiet. In case of conflict against anyone that&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; threatens the peace and unity of Toril, they'll jump in.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; They want to show to everyone their good intents.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Items that protects against alignment detection becomes popular among the Yuan-Ti.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Their aim is to do everything they could reasonnably do to have an united nation and an united&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; church.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; So they have to place paws and spies in less organizations than before.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Between them, they laugh heartily about the lack of subtilities of the so-called Church of Shadow, and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; they praise Sseth, their god, who inspired them the true virtues one should have - patience,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; insidiousness, long-lasting ambition, and how to make convincing lies and half-truths.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Meanwhile, they'll also reinforce the spy network in the Church of Shadow, in the case it's successful at&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; something.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; They also have already, of course, spies and paws in the Church of Toril and the UC.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Yuan-Ti swear that they'll put all their strength behind the United Commonwealth (as long as it&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; has the upper hand, at least), and that the Government of Toril will never have to reproach anything&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; on the Yuan-Ti (but they say nothing about the citizens of that government, nor about who exactly will&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; be that government).&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; They see the Church of Shadow as idiots. They think that internal strife will kill that church quickly, as&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; each high cleric of this bunch of people valuing pettiness, hatred, ambition, betrayal and strife will want&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; to be the leader of the church.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; OOC: The above is based on my reflexions on what would makes a true Evil villain in such a&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; circumstance. To sum up, if you are a lone wolf, and there is a big war between a pack of wolves that&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; want to destroy the world/or kill everyone/or loot everything, and the United Sheep's Alliance, what&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; side will you join ? The wolves, because you' one ? No, that's silly. You'll join the sheep. So you'll be&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; accepted, maybe even trusted, among them, and you'll have all the sheeps for you to eat. Enough&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; sheeps for the rest of your life ! If you join the wolves, however, you'll have to share the sheeps with&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; them, and you'll end up assassinated either by an ambitious, lower-ranked wolf, or by a&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; precautionous, higher-ranked wolf.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Yuan-Ti want to be the only wolf of the sheepfold, and their ambitions are mostly greed and&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; hunger for power. Behind the scene, everything, of course. They don't want the Torilian to know they&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; are their true masters, and they don't want the Torilian to know they are evil.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [ December 08, 2001: Message edited by: Gez ]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Posts: 1492 | From: Somewhere in France | Registered: Dec 2000&nbsp; |&nbsp; IP: Logged</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 1304783, member: 2020"] [b](Post 41) The Second IR[/b] Edena_of_Neith Member Member # 1235 posted December 08, 2001 06:59 AM Ruling: The Church of Toril, as it calls itself, does absorb Hanali Celanil, and it absorbs some of the other dieties whose portfolios are in agreement with it's principals (but this takes months to happen, and in some cases years.) However, Gond the Wonderbringer is not absorbed, because it was Gond who brought technology to Toril, or so say the gnomes, and his Church has become huge. It has become so huge that most gnomes belong to it, and many non-gnomes belong to it. Eilistraee gains a great following among the drow, who are unfamiliar with the surface as of yet, and so she becomes a great power. The Church of Compassion that is founded after the death of Ian Payne sweeps up most of the followers of several Faerunian Gods, stripping them of their power. Kelemvor is a big loser, especially since his people did not perform the burial, and since he is seen as harsh and uncaring. The followers of Immater also flock to the new church. Torm the True is another God who loses big, as honesty, keeping the trust, courage, and honor, were all embodied in Ian Payne, and the Angels of the new Church still light his tomb. The dark Gods suffer very badly as people eschew them for the Church of Toril, the Church of Compassion, and the new rising powers such as Eilistraee. Loviatar is almost wiped out, since there has been all too much pain and suffering (it gets so bad Loviatar starts thinking of joining with Sharess, and turning to good alignment ...) Malar the Beastlord loses out totally, his followers either dead in the war, or abandoning him, or hunted down by people outraged from too much war. The followers of Cyric perished for the most part in the war, and those that remain are very unpopular, and a massive attempt is made to convert them. The Church of Bane remains, but it is drastically weakened, for the common people don't wish tyranny, and they see in the UC and the Church of Compassion a way to escape tyranny, and Bane's people can't hold them. Bane's people are few, because most died in the war, and those that remain are frowned upon as idiots. Nobody prays to Umberlee anymore, either. Auril the Frostmaiden was totally wiped out and no longer exists as a power on Toril. Tempus still remains, but he is greatly weakened. People are tired of war. Helm the Watcher does not weaken. The idea of keeping guard, protecting Realmspace with Guardians, protecting the avenues of approach from the Planes with Watchers, is big amongst the military and even the common people, and Helm flourishes amidst the respectful prayers of these people. The balance of Realmspace shifts heavily towards Good. - - - When the phaerimm (and, I am guessing, the sharn) return with reports that the Shadow Fleet is threatening Toril, demanding this and this be done or else, THERE IS MASSIVE ANGER AND A FIRM RESOLVE AND UNITY AGAINST THEM. The Chosen who had asked for neutrality, offer their services to the UC. More countries from Kara-Tur offer to join or ally with the UC. More countries from the other 4 continents offer to join the UC unconditionally, or to ally with it. Even the neutral scro of Selune are infuriated, and although they remember with anger the massacre of their people by the UC, they offer to ally with them against these extraplanr interlopers. An argument breaks out amongst the phaerimm. Some of the phaerimm were not caught in the High Ritual, while many more were. The phaerimm not caught, remain anti-social as phaerimm always were, but those that were caught, become social. The argument ends with some of the phaerimm returning to live in isolation in the Underdark, but the majority actually start to show up in civilized society, albeit cautiously. The phaerimm begin to modify their beholder slaves, to make them into beings who can tolerate each other and other races (currently, that is not possible, if you know beholders!) The phaerimm are trying to make the race they created into one that can be assimilated into society. Until they do, they will not release their slaves from slavery; it would be too dangerous to the people of Toril. Posts: 1620 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member Member # 1235 posted December 08, 2001 07:05 AM It is not the ending yet, Lord Talos. The Shades see that the Church of Toril is jumping the gun (about gathering dieties in) and angering the dieties. The resolution of the elves and humanoids is yet to be decided: that is up to Forrester. The scro have not joined the UC; they remember the slaughter of their people in the war. The clergy of Shar that yet remain on Toril communicate in secret to the Shades, telling them of all events that are happening. The clergy of Shar think that the current euphoria and goodwill will not last, and that the final peace conference can be disrupted and wrecked. The clergy of Shar believe these weak mortals will again succumb to the temptation to commit violence against their own, that hatred and predudice will win out, that memories are short and the desire to kill is forever. The clergy of Shar also report that the phaerimm/sharn blockade of Realmspace, although powerful and growing more so, is not so powerful the Fleet of Shade could not penetrate it by force. However, they report that unleashing a wave of Negative Energy on Realmspace would not be a good idea: their divinations suggest the Angels might return and stop it, then retaliate against the Shades. As for whether Shades will be allowed to live in Realmspace, that can be decided in two ways: either by war or by the peace conference (although the Shades are not invited to it, one of the clergy of Shar IS (she is not given a choice) so that the Shades have a spokesperson.) The choice, is yours. [ December 08, 2001: Message edited by: Edena_of_Neith ] Posts: 1620 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member Member # 1235 posted December 08, 2001 07:15 AM The matter of the trial of the one remaining evil illithid was meant semi-humorously. Please go ahead and post concerning this. I am curious as to what you people will decide. The situation with the Fleet of Shade threatens another war. Since nobody WANTS another war, you are going to have to make arrangements to deter the Shades, no? They are at the peace conference in the form of a young lady who is a priestess of Shar; she will speak for them. Speak your will on this matter! I need to know if the Magocracy and Humanoid Alliance remain independent or join the UC. I especially need Forrester's reaction to the behavior of the elves as noted in the post above. (It is only the elves of Evermeet who had been shades who are reacting with such incredible friendliness; the elves of Evereska remember what happened in the Seven Year War, and they are wary and cautious, but they are willing to make a lasting peace.) The Church of Toril will be challenged for supremacy by the Church of Compassion. Hopefully, it will be a peaceful coexistence. Hopefully, neither Church will discriminate against the smaller denominations, of Oghma, Eilistraee, Gond, and the others. Posts: 1620 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged Lord Talos Member Member # 5533 posted December 08, 2001 08:07 AM Shar and Mask strike down the weakened Cyric, destroying him and taking all his portfolios. Merging these portfolios with their own the unified Church of Shadow is created, while Shar takes deception and lies and Mask takes intrigue back, adding illusions, taking him back to intermediate status. . They invite other non-chaotic evil Gods to join, since only in union they can survive. Talona swtches to NE and joins The Church, taking the betreyal portfofolio from Gargauth whose other portfolios belong now to Shar( Gargauth didn`t want to join and was destoyed). Bane, losing almost all followers had no other choice but to join, becoming an Intermediate Power and losing hatred to Shar. Loviatar joins and so does Velshaaron. Malar who lost almost all followers promises to become less chaotic and gains murder portfolio from Cyric. Talos doesn`t join and hopes to survive on his own. Shar becomes the most powerful single Greater Power, far stronger than Mystra. The Shadow Church is an unified church, with LE/NE alignment, with single hierarchy, a cleric may choose one of the Shadow Gods, as a patron, but doesn`t have, power from worship is mostly distributed based on rank( Shar gets the most). The Church of Shadow hopes to attract many humanoids and humans, who are either power hungry or full of hatred, and waits to exploit other weaknesses for they own gains, ambitious politicians, those who suffered and want retriburion, evil rogues,ambitious mages who dwell in necromancy and shadow magic. In the land where they not rule they will plot in secrecy to place cultists in the position of power. They are allied with forces from the Plane Of Shadow, some of them desire transformation into a Shade. [ December 08, 2001: Message edited by: Lord Talos ] [ December 08, 2001: Message edited by: Lord Talos ] Posts: 206 | Registered: Jun 2001 | IP: Logged Lord Talos Member Member # 5533 posted December 08, 2001 08:17 AM And a plan to use a shadow weave is abandomed. Posts: 206 | Registered: Jun 2001 | IP: Logged Lord Talos Member Member # 5533 posted December 08, 2001 08:18 AM And a plan to use a shadow/negative energy wave is abandomed(ignore above post). [ December 08, 2001: Message edited by: Lord Talos ] Posts: 206 | Registered: Jun 2001 | IP: Logged Lord Talos Member Member # 5533 posted December 08, 2001 08:49 AM The priestess of Shar, representing the entire Church of the Shadow, sitsnear her allies, a menacing nightwalker representing Shadowlords and one of the surviving Netherese archmages. Edena, now the Shadow Gods want to strike weakened Kelemrevor and seize his portfolios, if they suceed they could equal two other churches in power. Posts: 206 | Registered: Jun 2001 | IP: Logged Semirhage Member Member # 8099 posted December 08, 2001 09:02 AM Valkys speaks for the Unseelie Court, since technically, he was granted power by Oberon to see this through, "The Unseelie will not join the UC. We will not oppose it, and plan to send an ambassador to maintain diplomatic ties. As I have been appointed leader of the Unseelie here on Toril, I shall do my utmost to gather the Unseelie who rebelled under my command. My dragon allies also choose not to join the UC, but will send their own ambassador." Posts: 34 | Registered: Oct 2001 | IP: Logged Gez Member Member # 444 posted December 08, 2001 09:13 AM >The gnomish nations do not ask to join, because they wish to continue their experiments, and fear UC laws would stop them, but they offer alliance with the UC. Grr. I said about 12 times that the gnomes are part of the Commonwealth. Furthermore, my gnomes being Neutral Good, they won't do any experiments that is contrary to their ideals -- and I really doubt an experiment that's OK with the NG dogma can be illegal in any way. If we've learned something from the 7-year war, it is that you don't introduce an innovation until it's perfect enough so that it won't hurt anyone. So, the gnomish nation don't ask to join, because they have already joined. A lonjg time ago, it was on the other thread. >However, Gond the Wonderbringer is not absorbed, because it was Gond who brought technology to Toril, or so say the gnomes, and his Church has become huge. It has become so huge that most gnomes belong to it, and many non-gnomes belong to it. Grr. I said the churches of the gnomes were joining the Church of Toril. And the Church of Gond also, because it is a Gnome Church, and because they want the teaching of Gond to be the teaching of Toril. The Church of Toril is to represent what Toril is, and if technology and craft is important to Toril, the Church of Gond is important to the Church of Toril. I'd like to actually play my gnomes. I talk only of things that I personnaly control, the Gnomes and the Church of Toril; not like Lord Talos who decide what happens about all the evil deities, including portfolio and alignment change (forgetting, by the way, that the deity can't intervene in anything; only their churches and clerics). Angry Gez Post-Scriptum: The Church of Toril give full protection to the Church of Kelemvor. Kelemvor is a non-evil god of protection, and his teaching are so respected and venered by the Church of Toril. We asks the threatened Church of Kelemvor to join the One Church of Toril. By the way, we also ask the Church of Compassion to join the Church of Toril, because we do value and worship compassion as well as protection, justice, freedom, renewal, knowledge, life, joy, and hope. [ December 08, 2001: Message edited by: Gez ] Posts: 1492 | From: Somewhere in France | Registered: Dec 2000 | IP: Logged Lord Talos Member Member # 5533 posted December 08, 2001 09:16 AM I made a mistake in one of above posts, Church OF Shadow is NE/LE, sorry for confusion. Posts: 206 | Registered: Jun 2001 | IP: Logged Forrester Member Member # 2760 posted December 08, 2001 09:31 AM quote: Originally posted by Edena_of_Neith: Amlaruil kisses Forrester, long and deeply. That gesture ignites her people, who laugh and cheer, then dance and sing in celebration. They whisk the humanoids around them into their dance, and it seems to the humanoids that these could not possibly be elves - or if they are, they have all gone mad. Some of the elves start talking about new cities, where elves and humanoids live together. Others take that up, and talk of the elven ceremonies, and how the humanoids would fit in great. But then others talk about how the elves would fit in great into the humanoid ceremonies, and they ask to join the humanoid community!! IMPORTANT: How Forrester and the Humanoids handle this, is crucial. Of course, the Shamans of Gruumsh look upon all this warily, as one might expect. The elves do not go so far as to praise Gruumsh, but then again ... they do not attack him or say anything bad about him, either. Heh heh heh. Millions of defenseless easily-surprised elves in Humanoid-land. How else can I handle it? We invite them to dinner. . . . and afterwards, we invite them to join us, and live among us, as equals. The fighting has gone on for too long . . . FAR too long. They fought with us against their own kind, in order to save our lives. The time is long since past to bury the hatchet. And it goes without saying, the Humanoid Alliance would like to become full members in the Commonwealth. Forrester Peacemaker [Back this evening . . . ] EDIT: The Church of Gruumsh matters litle to us at this point. As I noted previously, we have been slipping away from worshipping gods, instead turning inward to worship the study of psionics and technology. Our society, before this war, was mostly secular in nature. While this assimilation may not be easy for some of my people, religious differences are not going to be a big part of the problem. Posts: 713 | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged Lord Talos Member Member # 5533 posted December 08, 2001 09:47 AM What about the conference? Posts: 206 | Registered: Jun 2001 | IP: Logged Gez Member Member # 444 posted December 08, 2001 09:52 AM Who's the DM, here ? Edena or Talos ? Shar and Mask strike down the weakened Cyric, destroying him and taking all his portfolios. If Edena says so. Merging these portfolios with their own the unified Church of Shadow is created, while Shar takes deception and lies and Mask takes intrigue back, adding illusions, taking him back to intermediate status. If Edena says so. They invite other non-chaotic evil Gods to join, since only in union they can survive. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha !!! The sacred union of evil is just to ridiculous ! Evil is not about helping other or strength through unity. Hey, that's a good behavior. If there are evil, they won't join or ally themselves. They'll all hope they'll be the sole survivor evil god. Talona switches to NE If Edena says so. and joins The Church, If Edena says so. taking the betreyal portfofolio from Gargauth whose other portfolios belong now to Shar She tests her new betrayal portfolio by killing Shar. Bwahahah. She then begin to ally with and betray all other evil powers, until one, bored, send her to Greyhawk where she's slain by Wastri the Hoping Prophet, god of Bullywugs. If Edena says so, of course. (Gargauth didn't wanted to join and was destroyed). If Edena says so. Bane, losing almost all followers had no other choice but to join, becoming an Intermediate Power and losing hatred to Shar. If Edena says so. Bane, as a deity of hatred and tyranny, would gladly die rather than becoming the underling of anyone. He would just hate those trying to command him (the greatest blasphemy he can conceive is to give orders to him), and if he join an united church, it would be only as the leader of said church. Which would be soon after renammed Church of Bane. Loviatar joins Last time Edena talked about Loviatar, she was considering switching to Good and joining Sharess in the One Church. She could get the portfolio of exotic sexual practice and unordothox fantasms. Not all-encompassing, sure. and so does Velsharoon. Malar who lost almost all followers promises to become less chaotic If Edena says so. and gains murder portfolio from Cyric. If Edena says so. Talos doesn't join and hopes to survive on his own. Who else find that funny ? (OOC) Shar becomes the most powerful single Greater Power, far stronger than Mystra. Except Shar was no more a Greater Power since she lost all humanoid followers after the 7-Year war. She probably lose yet other when the Netherese betrayed Toril (and were humiliated). And she probably will lose even more as secrets are not very popular these times (with the Phaerimm and Illithids sharing their lore with the UC, the time is not for secrecy anymore). Posts: 1492 | From: Somewhere in France | Registered: Dec 2000 | IP: Logged Gez Member Member # 444 posted December 08, 2001 10:41 AM The Yuan-Ti, who know better than others, remain quiet. In case of conflict against anyone that threatens the peace and unity of Toril, they'll jump in. They want to show to everyone their good intents. Items that protects against alignment detection becomes popular among the Yuan-Ti. Their aim is to do everything they could reasonnably do to have an united nation and an united church. So they have to place paws and spies in less organizations than before. Between them, they laugh heartily about the lack of subtilities of the so-called Church of Shadow, and they praise Sseth, their god, who inspired them the true virtues one should have - patience, insidiousness, long-lasting ambition, and how to make convincing lies and half-truths. Meanwhile, they'll also reinforce the spy network in the Church of Shadow, in the case it's successful at something. They also have already, of course, spies and paws in the Church of Toril and the UC. The Yuan-Ti swear that they'll put all their strength behind the United Commonwealth (as long as it has the upper hand, at least), and that the Government of Toril will never have to reproach anything on the Yuan-Ti (but they say nothing about the citizens of that government, nor about who exactly will be that government). They see the Church of Shadow as idiots. They think that internal strife will kill that church quickly, as each high cleric of this bunch of people valuing pettiness, hatred, ambition, betrayal and strife will want to be the leader of the church. OOC: The above is based on my reflexions on what would makes a true Evil villain in such a circumstance. To sum up, if you are a lone wolf, and there is a big war between a pack of wolves that want to destroy the world/or kill everyone/or loot everything, and the United Sheep's Alliance, what side will you join ? The wolves, because you' one ? No, that's silly. You'll join the sheep. So you'll be accepted, maybe even trusted, among them, and you'll have all the sheeps for you to eat. Enough sheeps for the rest of your life ! If you join the wolves, however, you'll have to share the sheeps with them, and you'll end up assassinated either by an ambitious, lower-ranked wolf, or by a precautionous, higher-ranked wolf. The Yuan-Ti want to be the only wolf of the sheepfold, and their ambitions are mostly greed and hunger for power. Behind the scene, everything, of course. They don't want the Torilian to know they are their true masters, and they don't want the Torilian to know they are evil. [ December 08, 2001: Message edited by: Gez ] Posts: 1492 | From: Somewhere in France | Registered: Dec 2000 | IP: Logged [/QUOTE]

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