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<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 1304788" data-attributes="member: 2020"><p><strong>(Post 43) The Second IR</strong></p><p></p><p>Edena_of_Neith </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 1235 </p><p> posted December 08, 2001 07:34 PM </p><p></p><p> I must wonder what Ed Greenwood and the FR Design Team would say, if they read the IR. </p><p></p><p> Posts: 1620 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 1235 </p><p> posted December 08, 2001 07:37 PM </p><p></p><p> I am just a simple Gamer.</p><p> I was a good DM in my heyday, or at least some thought so.</p><p></p><p> I cannot run even a simple 3E game, lacking enough knowledge of the mechanics to do so.</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> I did not think a second IR thread was possible, not even theoretically.</p><p></p><p> When I began this second IR, I looked at myself, and thought - you are attempting the impossible.</p><p></p><p> They have nukes, they have doomsday weapons, they have technomancy utterly beyond the scope of</p><p> D&D, and they are all at each other's throats.</p><p></p><p> Yet we did it. We wrote the second IR thread.</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> I did not make the posts that caused Toril to become as it has become.</p><p></p><p> You did.</p><p></p><p> The story was, and is, your story.</p><p></p><p> Everything that was accomplished, and everything dark and chaotic that happened also, you achieved.</p><p></p><p> I would be willing to bet that you did not believe (or in some cases, even imagine, for I did not) that it</p><p> would end this way?</p><p></p><p> If you wish to post follow-up messages and comments to this post, please do so.</p><p></p><p> I'd like to hear what you have to say.</p><p> And if you have any more IC things to say, say them.</p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith</p><p></p><p> [ December 08, 2001: Message edited by: Edena_of_Neith ]</p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 1620 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Riot Gear </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 202 </p><p> posted December 08, 2001 08:06 PM </p><p></p><p> Anabstercorian will commit suicide psionically if they even attempt to warp his mind through magic. He</p><p> will NOT allow his culture to be tainted.</p><p></p><p> --------------------</p><p></p><p> -------</p><p></p><p> I love maces, I really do. That crunch noise is just SO satisfying, and the flying shards of bloody bone</p><p> - Well, that's just icing on the cake. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 1603 | Registered: Dec 2000 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 1235 </p><p> posted December 08, 2001 08:18 PM </p><p></p><p> Oh very well. </p><p> They do not attempt to alter him by putting a Helm of Opposition on his head.</p><p></p><p> Suggestions for altering the illithid so he's not a threat, once released (assuming you release him) ? </p><p></p><p> Posts: 1620 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Riot Gear </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 202 </p><p> posted December 08, 2001 08:58 PM </p><p></p><p> Frankly, the best thing he can think of is group therapy with deep illithid. He imagines their perspective</p><p> on things will allow him to understand his own situation better.</p><p></p><p> --------------------</p><p></p><p> -------</p><p></p><p> I love maces, I really do. That crunch noise is just SO satisfying, and the flying shards of bloody bone</p><p> - Well, that's just icing on the cake. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 1603 | Registered: Dec 2000 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Forrester </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 2760 </p><p> posted December 08, 2001 10:00 PM </p><p></p><p></p><p> quote:</p><p></p><p> Originally posted by Edena_of_Neith:</p><p> Oh very well. </p><p> They do not attempt to alter him by putting a Helm of Opposition on his head.</p><p></p><p> Suggestions for altering the illithid so he's not a threat, once released (assuming you</p><p> release him) ?</p><p></p><p></p><p> I am still not opposed to forcibly ending his life . . . but if he must remain, then I insist that before he</p><p> is released, he undergo some sort of psychic surgery to decrease his now-great power to that of one of</p><p> the "common" illithid. This surgery must be of the kind that is unreversible through Heal, Wish, and so</p><p> on, even if it means that we have to use a Counter-Wish or three. </p><p></p><p> Alternatively, he can write up the admittedly interesting history in complete ethereal, astral, and Prime</p><p> Material lock-up. </p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p> Peacemaker</p><p> Speaker for the Elves of Evermeet?!?!!! </p><p></p><p></p><p> PS YAY US!!!!!!!!!! </p><p> Much props to Edena for taking us through another round! Woo-hoo! Let's *HOPE* it's the last . . . not</p><p> because I never want to do this again, but because it looks like there's peace on Toril at last. And</p><p> because I don't think any of us could handle the tech/destruction levels in another 40 years of game</p><p> time. </p><p></p><p> Posts: 713 | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Phasmus </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 2639 </p><p> posted December 08, 2001 11:06 PM </p><p></p><p> The Deep Illithid agree to take Anabstercorian into their custody. They will treat him well, and give him</p><p> as much freedom as possible... though their security measures border on paranoid, at the start.</p><p></p><p> After comparing notes, in a philosophical sense, the Deep Illithid and the Neoillithid agree that, for a</p><p> number of reasons, choosing goodness of your own free will is vastly preferable to having it forced</p><p> upon you. They do not support the church's alignment-reversal policies, or any form of sanctioned</p><p> mental domination or alteration for that matter, though they have no complaint about the option</p><p> being given to the convicted as an alternative to death.</p><p></p><p> ---</p><p></p><p> Many thanks Edena. This has been an enjoyable event indeed.</p><p></p><p></p><p> Regards,</p><p></p><p> Phasmus</p><p> aka Don'Calamari </p><p></p><p> Posts: 82 | From: Oregon | Registered: Feb 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Forrester </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 2760 </p><p> posted December 09, 2001 12:04 AM </p><p></p><p></p><p> quote:</p><p></p><p> Originally posted by Phasmus:</p><p></p><p> After comparing notes, in a philosophical sense, the Deep Illithid and the Neoillithid</p><p> agree that . . . [t]hey do not support . . . any form of sanctioned mental domination. </p><p></p><p></p><p> Shees. Then what are you guys going to do with your time? </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p> Forrester</p><p> Peacemaker </p><p></p><p> Posts: 713 | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Reprisal </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 2368 </p><p> posted December 09, 2001 12:04 AM </p><p></p><p> What can I say that would be accurate enough to convey the feeling I have after this endeavour? I</p><p> don't believe I can do it justice, but all I can really say is that this has been, by far, one of the</p><p> greatest RPG experiences in my gaming career. It truly is quite amazing that the thread(s) remained</p><p> coherent enough to keep going for so long. My only regret is that we had those such as Lord Talos</p><p> earlier in the game... Still, great work everyone, and thank you Edena! </p><p></p><p> --------------------</p><p></p><p> "Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus</p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 239 | From: Parksville, BC, Canada | Registered: Feb 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Gez </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 444 </p><p> posted December 09, 2001 02:51 AM </p><p></p><p> The Church of Toril begin to work on a new project, and seek the help of the illithids (and Larloch, if he</p><p> agree) for that.</p><p></p><p> Their aim is to create a mental network to which everyone could become part of, if they wants to.</p><p></p><p> This mental net would allow to access the lore of everyone that consitute this net (but it would be, of</p><p> course, possible to hide things: private life is to be respected).</p><p></p><p> This will be like the Internet of the origin, a tool for sharing knowledge and opinion.</p><p></p><p> But it will be on a direct, instantaneous level.</p><p></p><p> And their are other plans for it.</p><p></p><p> The Sharessite members of the Church of Toril wants it to have a great empathical power. So that</p><p> when you makes a "netted" person feel an emotion, you feel that same emotion yourself.</p><p></p><p> Making people happy would makes you happy. Hurting people would makes you feel pain.</p><p></p><p> The Gnomes are interested by this project, and begin to work on computers, magicomputers, and</p><p> psionicomputers that would be connected to this network, to offer their information storage and</p><p> computation capacity to the "collective conscient" (as they call this project).</p><p></p><p> The engineers also plan to make domotic installations, robots and golems that will be attuned to that</p><p> net, so that they could be commanded by mere mental orders.</p><p></p><p> They also thinks this net will allow them to solve the problems they have for designing consistant</p><p> nanorobots clusters.</p><p></p><p> The Church recruits engineers, magi, and psionics for working on this project. The specifications are</p><p> increased each times new member begin to work on the project. Now, it should also be a spellpool</p><p> (see Tome & Blood or Magic of Faerûn) and its psionic equivalent.</p><p></p><p> Gnome druids and technodruids join the project and works on how to link awakened plants and</p><p> animals. Their long-term goal for this is to have the whole planet become sentient (if you see Gaia in</p><p> the Foundation boks by Asimov, you'll have a good idea of what they want). They try to recruits druids</p><p> from other races to work on this project as well.</p><p></p><p> The magi and psionics that have joined the project hopes it will allow to develop an unified Theory of</p><p> Magic, that would be known by everyone in the "collective conscious", that would transcend the</p><p> limitations of arcane, divine, and psionics and give them True Magic, the magic from which all other</p><p> magics are mere subparts. This may even allow them to access raw magic even without the interface of</p><p> the Weave or the Shadow Weave.</p><p></p><p> It may even be possible that people, at their death, will instead fuse with the "collective conscious"</p><p> and litterally stay alive in everyone's memories.</p><p></p><p> It may even be possible that the deitis that are venerated by the Church of Toril will end up fusing with</p><p> this network build upon the three pillars of nature, science, and magic.</p><p></p><p> Edena, in how many time this very ambitious project will be realized ?</p><p></p><p> And who will help and put their resources behind this (Forrester, Reprisal, I need you) ?</p><p></p><p> War would no longer be possible. Hatred would no longer be possible. Sadism would no longer be</p><p> possible. At least among the members of that network. But the advantages given to you by the</p><p> network would be so tantalizing (control over the machines, immense knowledges, increased</p><p> abstractions and computations capacity, magic-like communications by simple telepathy) that few</p><p> people would not want to join. And those who join will be stronger than those who do not.</p><p></p><p> Peace and harmony to their ultimate level. </p><p></p><p> Posts: 1492 | From: Somewhere in France | Registered: Dec 2000 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 1235 </p><p> posted December 09, 2001 03:03 AM </p><p></p><p> Thank you, all of you, for the compliments.</p><p></p><p> I thought I had lost it, lost forever the ability to run or moderate a game (or, at least in this case, a</p><p> kind of game.)</p><p> It's been years since I ran a game.</p><p> It's been years since I played regularly.</p><p></p><p> I am glad I was able to bring back the fire one more time.</p><p></p><p> Reprisal, you did a really fantastic job with those posts of yours. You made Ian Payne come alive, both</p><p> in the first IR thread and in this one. You gave the Technomancy/Technocratic</p><p> Commonwealth/Commonwealth of Toril life.</p><p> That is why I had the Church of Compassion rise in the end, because Ian Payne was such a memorial</p><p> person, a dedicating loving man who fought and fought for his people, gave eloquent speeches, and</p><p> was rped fantastically.</p><p></p><p> Forrester, your zeal was the big engine of the first IR thread, in your unremitting war against all</p><p> elvendom.</p><p> And you succeeded in exterminating the elves perhaps beyond anyone's expectations, down to the</p><p> least and last.</p><p> Yet here you are, as you just said, as Speaker of the Elves of Evermeet.</p><p> I didn't do that on purpose; it just happened that way.</p><p> I would not have imagined that it would have ended that way, with Forrester as King of the elves, and</p><p> as the elves leaping and cavorting, mating with and celebrating with, the humanoids.</p><p> You never did say if you took the Queen's daughter as your concubine ...</p><p></p><p> You said elves were played badly by most players, and that they were a munchkin race.</p><p> You must admit that my elves, and my conception of elves, is a bit different from the norm.</p><p></p><p> Phasmus, you did very well with the illithid, even when I kept throwing curve balls at you.</p><p> The idea of the NeoIllithid, your idea, was very interesting.</p><p> And somehow, through all of this, you kept the illithid dignified, in a way lofty (both a dark loftiness</p><p> and a bright loftiness).</p><p> It is not a wonder people look at the illithid and neoillithid as the intellectuals, the advisors, the</p><p> people you go to when there is a problem nobody else can solve.</p><p></p><p> Riot Gear, you are exactly that. A riot!</p><p> Your total war letter to me, with the illithid stating they were going to get everyone, period, was what</p><p> started Armaggedon.</p><p> Of course, the man who declared the angels were declaring all out war (My eyes have seen the glory of</p><p> the coming of the Lord ...) sorta helped.</p><p> And the fact SOMEONE decided to send a host to aid the City of Shade.</p><p></p><p> The Armaggedon did not destroy the world after all. What do you know, you didn't need Elminster or</p><p> Khelben or Pierigon to save you from the mess you made after all.</p><p></p><p> Of course, Elminster, back in Shadowdale, would just take a puff on his pipe, blow a beautiful smoke</p><p> ring, and comment:</p><p></p><p> I always knew they'd pull through. </p><p> They just needed a little nudging.</p><p></p><p> Now, I must admit, we did not have Balance.</p><p> Balance, that wondrous thing that everyone believes is essential to a game, was not there.</p><p> Or was it?</p><p> Surely, with nuclear weapons flying, blast waves making the moons stream like comets, the world</p><p> turning green, vast armies clashing in final duels to the death, and the Gods of Toril refusing to</p><p> intervene in the slightest way, I was not trying to keep balance, or work towards a balance.</p><p> Or was I?</p><p></p><p> Aloisius, I wish to give my cheers and compliments to you for your idea of a ritual of love to save</p><p> things.</p><p> I had to carefully paraphrase what Aloisius told me, but I wish to say that, the climax of the Weave</p><p> was not an accident.</p><p></p><p> Zouron, you give yourself too little credit.</p><p> You transferred that tarrasque to the City of Shade right through the lands between, without harming</p><p> them! With a simple bit of creativity.</p><p> And you created the Magocracy, the adult version of Harry Potter, and it still stands, and it's culture will</p><p> influence the rest of Toril forever.</p><p></p><p> Balor, I always loved your posts; especially the fiery ones at the start of the first IR thread: why do you</p><p> think I pleaded with you to allow me to put them all back in before I asked Piratecat to put them in</p><p> the histories?</p><p> So, where were you? Heh, you could have done a great job at any power you wished to run.</p><p></p><p> Estlor, I missed you. You should have spoken for the elves, including the elves of Evermeet, and not</p><p> me.</p><p> (I must wonder how Forrester thinks of my rping of elves ...)</p><p> I suppose that if you had run them, the elves would not be cavorting and dancing and mating with the</p><p> humanoids, but your solemn serious posts depicted the People well, as they are portrayed in the</p><p> literature on FR.</p><p></p><p> Blood Jester, I wish you had stayed, and played out the Faerie.</p><p> The Faerie will be remembered as stubborn cusses; enough defected with the dragons to return the</p><p> Faerie to Toril, and the Queen dares not exile them because the Unseelie would jump on that.</p><p></p><p> Cheers to Gez, who took Aloisius's place and continued with the Church of Toril.</p><p> A bit aggressive there, no?</p><p> Heh ... you can't get all the Gods instantly. Will take time.</p><p></p><p> And to a certain person who e-mailed me, and who has a special gift at words, thanks for playing the</p><p> Sigilians and Sharn.</p><p> Who better than you to play the Sharn?</p><p> They were always a mysterious, but brilliant, race.</p><p> I wish to extend my regret that you did not get more of a chance to play.</p><p></p><p> Talos, thanks for joining in.</p><p> If you had come in earlier, I think the world would have ended!</p><p></p><p> To the slaadi player, good playing. Your Wave of Chaos went off after all, didn't it?! (the condition of</p><p> Toril's sun will reflect it for centuries to come, too.)</p><p></p><p> Who did I miss. Well, about 20 other people. Nuts.</p><p> One cannot give credit to a few, and not to all. </p><p> I guess I should have never posted above ...</p><p></p><p> Thank you all. Thanks for posting, and playing. Thanks for the fun.</p><p></p><p> Now, it does beg one question: How did you all somehow manage to avoid utterly destroying</p><p> Realmspace?</p><p> I'm still puzzling over that one ...</p><p></p><p> [ December 09, 2001: Message edited by: Edena_of_Neith ]</p><p></p><p></p><p> Posts: 1620 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 1235 </p><p> posted December 09, 2001 03:05 AM </p><p></p><p> Gez, I don't know.</p><p> The others know of this project, and they may have something to say on it.</p><p> They may prevent the Church of Toril from completing it, or at least completing it in that form. </p><p></p><p> Posts: 1620 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged </p><p></p><p> Edena_of_Neith </p><p> Member </p><p> Member # 1235 </p><p> posted December 09, 2001 03:16 AM </p><p></p><p> You know, the current world could be a regular D&D setting, with just a few modifications.</p><p></p><p> Take out technology, and technomagic does not exist thus, and we must assume very high powered</p><p> magic is the driving engine of the UC.</p><p> But nothing else, is changed.</p><p></p><p> I admit, it is an FR knocked completely out of all recognition.</p><p></p><p> Some will say that it is like a tree someone mutilated with a chain saw (look of pain, for that just</p><p> happened today next door.)</p><p> Perhaps they are right ... in which case the actions of the Powers That Be in the Official Setting are</p><p> justified:</p><p></p><p> They would never have allowed the Industrial Revolution to even take it's first steps, much less have</p><p> tolerated what subsequently happened!</p><p> The Powers That Be on Toril, would have stomped down on everyone pretty quick.</p><p></p><p> Then again, perhaps they are wrong, and the Toril you created is not a multilated ruined affair, in</p><p> which case, well ... we created something new and different.</p><p> But did we create something worth remembering? 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[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 1304788, member: 2020"] [b](Post 43) The Second IR[/b] Edena_of_Neith Member Member # 1235 posted December 08, 2001 07:34 PM I must wonder what Ed Greenwood and the FR Design Team would say, if they read the IR. Posts: 1620 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member Member # 1235 posted December 08, 2001 07:37 PM I am just a simple Gamer. I was a good DM in my heyday, or at least some thought so. I cannot run even a simple 3E game, lacking enough knowledge of the mechanics to do so. - - - I did not think a second IR thread was possible, not even theoretically. When I began this second IR, I looked at myself, and thought - you are attempting the impossible. They have nukes, they have doomsday weapons, they have technomancy utterly beyond the scope of D&D, and they are all at each other's throats. Yet we did it. We wrote the second IR thread. - - - I did not make the posts that caused Toril to become as it has become. You did. The story was, and is, your story. Everything that was accomplished, and everything dark and chaotic that happened also, you achieved. I would be willing to bet that you did not believe (or in some cases, even imagine, for I did not) that it would end this way? If you wish to post follow-up messages and comments to this post, please do so. I'd like to hear what you have to say. And if you have any more IC things to say, say them. Edena_of_Neith [ December 08, 2001: Message edited by: Edena_of_Neith ] Posts: 1620 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged Riot Gear Member Member # 202 posted December 08, 2001 08:06 PM Anabstercorian will commit suicide psionically if they even attempt to warp his mind through magic. He will NOT allow his culture to be tainted. -------------------- ------- I love maces, I really do. That crunch noise is just SO satisfying, and the flying shards of bloody bone - Well, that's just icing on the cake. :D Posts: 1603 | Registered: Dec 2000 | IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member Member # 1235 posted December 08, 2001 08:18 PM Oh very well. They do not attempt to alter him by putting a Helm of Opposition on his head. Suggestions for altering the illithid so he's not a threat, once released (assuming you release him) ? Posts: 1620 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged Riot Gear Member Member # 202 posted December 08, 2001 08:58 PM Frankly, the best thing he can think of is group therapy with deep illithid. He imagines their perspective on things will allow him to understand his own situation better. -------------------- ------- I love maces, I really do. That crunch noise is just SO satisfying, and the flying shards of bloody bone - Well, that's just icing on the cake. :D Posts: 1603 | Registered: Dec 2000 | IP: Logged Forrester Member Member # 2760 posted December 08, 2001 10:00 PM quote: Originally posted by Edena_of_Neith: Oh very well. They do not attempt to alter him by putting a Helm of Opposition on his head. Suggestions for altering the illithid so he's not a threat, once released (assuming you release him) ? I am still not opposed to forcibly ending his life . . . but if he must remain, then I insist that before he is released, he undergo some sort of psychic surgery to decrease his now-great power to that of one of the "common" illithid. This surgery must be of the kind that is unreversible through Heal, Wish, and so on, even if it means that we have to use a Counter-Wish or three. Alternatively, he can write up the admittedly interesting history in complete ethereal, astral, and Prime Material lock-up. Forrester Peacemaker Speaker for the Elves of Evermeet?!?!!! PS YAY US!!!!!!!!!! Much props to Edena for taking us through another round! Woo-hoo! Let's *HOPE* it's the last . . . not because I never want to do this again, but because it looks like there's peace on Toril at last. And because I don't think any of us could handle the tech/destruction levels in another 40 years of game time. Posts: 713 | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged Phasmus Member Member # 2639 posted December 08, 2001 11:06 PM The Deep Illithid agree to take Anabstercorian into their custody. They will treat him well, and give him as much freedom as possible... though their security measures border on paranoid, at the start. After comparing notes, in a philosophical sense, the Deep Illithid and the Neoillithid agree that, for a number of reasons, choosing goodness of your own free will is vastly preferable to having it forced upon you. They do not support the church's alignment-reversal policies, or any form of sanctioned mental domination or alteration for that matter, though they have no complaint about the option being given to the convicted as an alternative to death. --- Many thanks Edena. This has been an enjoyable event indeed. Regards, Phasmus aka Don'Calamari Posts: 82 | From: Oregon | Registered: Feb 2001 | IP: Logged Forrester Member Member # 2760 posted December 09, 2001 12:04 AM quote: Originally posted by Phasmus: After comparing notes, in a philosophical sense, the Deep Illithid and the Neoillithid agree that . . . [t]hey do not support . . . any form of sanctioned mental domination. Shees. Then what are you guys going to do with your time? Forrester Peacemaker Posts: 713 | Registered: Mar 2001 | IP: Logged Reprisal Member Member # 2368 posted December 09, 2001 12:04 AM What can I say that would be accurate enough to convey the feeling I have after this endeavour? I don't believe I can do it justice, but all I can really say is that this has been, by far, one of the greatest RPG experiences in my gaming career. It truly is quite amazing that the thread(s) remained coherent enough to keep going for so long. My only regret is that we had those such as Lord Talos earlier in the game... Still, great work everyone, and thank you Edena! -------------------- "Intelligence in chains loses in lucidity what it gains in intensity." - Albert Camus Posts: 239 | From: Parksville, BC, Canada | Registered: Feb 2001 | IP: Logged Gez Member Member # 444 posted December 09, 2001 02:51 AM The Church of Toril begin to work on a new project, and seek the help of the illithids (and Larloch, if he agree) for that. Their aim is to create a mental network to which everyone could become part of, if they wants to. This mental net would allow to access the lore of everyone that consitute this net (but it would be, of course, possible to hide things: private life is to be respected). This will be like the Internet of the origin, a tool for sharing knowledge and opinion. But it will be on a direct, instantaneous level. And their are other plans for it. The Sharessite members of the Church of Toril wants it to have a great empathical power. So that when you makes a "netted" person feel an emotion, you feel that same emotion yourself. Making people happy would makes you happy. Hurting people would makes you feel pain. The Gnomes are interested by this project, and begin to work on computers, magicomputers, and psionicomputers that would be connected to this network, to offer their information storage and computation capacity to the "collective conscient" (as they call this project). The engineers also plan to make domotic installations, robots and golems that will be attuned to that net, so that they could be commanded by mere mental orders. They also thinks this net will allow them to solve the problems they have for designing consistant nanorobots clusters. The Church recruits engineers, magi, and psionics for working on this project. The specifications are increased each times new member begin to work on the project. Now, it should also be a spellpool (see Tome & Blood or Magic of Faerûn) and its psionic equivalent. Gnome druids and technodruids join the project and works on how to link awakened plants and animals. Their long-term goal for this is to have the whole planet become sentient (if you see Gaia in the Foundation boks by Asimov, you'll have a good idea of what they want). They try to recruits druids from other races to work on this project as well. The magi and psionics that have joined the project hopes it will allow to develop an unified Theory of Magic, that would be known by everyone in the "collective conscious", that would transcend the limitations of arcane, divine, and psionics and give them True Magic, the magic from which all other magics are mere subparts. This may even allow them to access raw magic even without the interface of the Weave or the Shadow Weave. It may even be possible that people, at their death, will instead fuse with the "collective conscious" and litterally stay alive in everyone's memories. It may even be possible that the deitis that are venerated by the Church of Toril will end up fusing with this network build upon the three pillars of nature, science, and magic. Edena, in how many time this very ambitious project will be realized ? And who will help and put their resources behind this (Forrester, Reprisal, I need you) ? War would no longer be possible. Hatred would no longer be possible. Sadism would no longer be possible. At least among the members of that network. But the advantages given to you by the network would be so tantalizing (control over the machines, immense knowledges, increased abstractions and computations capacity, magic-like communications by simple telepathy) that few people would not want to join. And those who join will be stronger than those who do not. Peace and harmony to their ultimate level. Posts: 1492 | From: Somewhere in France | Registered: Dec 2000 | IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member Member # 1235 posted December 09, 2001 03:03 AM Thank you, all of you, for the compliments. I thought I had lost it, lost forever the ability to run or moderate a game (or, at least in this case, a kind of game.) It's been years since I ran a game. It's been years since I played regularly. I am glad I was able to bring back the fire one more time. Reprisal, you did a really fantastic job with those posts of yours. You made Ian Payne come alive, both in the first IR thread and in this one. You gave the Technomancy/Technocratic Commonwealth/Commonwealth of Toril life. That is why I had the Church of Compassion rise in the end, because Ian Payne was such a memorial person, a dedicating loving man who fought and fought for his people, gave eloquent speeches, and was rped fantastically. Forrester, your zeal was the big engine of the first IR thread, in your unremitting war against all elvendom. And you succeeded in exterminating the elves perhaps beyond anyone's expectations, down to the least and last. Yet here you are, as you just said, as Speaker of the Elves of Evermeet. I didn't do that on purpose; it just happened that way. I would not have imagined that it would have ended that way, with Forrester as King of the elves, and as the elves leaping and cavorting, mating with and celebrating with, the humanoids. You never did say if you took the Queen's daughter as your concubine ... You said elves were played badly by most players, and that they were a munchkin race. You must admit that my elves, and my conception of elves, is a bit different from the norm. Phasmus, you did very well with the illithid, even when I kept throwing curve balls at you. The idea of the NeoIllithid, your idea, was very interesting. And somehow, through all of this, you kept the illithid dignified, in a way lofty (both a dark loftiness and a bright loftiness). It is not a wonder people look at the illithid and neoillithid as the intellectuals, the advisors, the people you go to when there is a problem nobody else can solve. Riot Gear, you are exactly that. A riot! Your total war letter to me, with the illithid stating they were going to get everyone, period, was what started Armaggedon. Of course, the man who declared the angels were declaring all out war (My eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord ...) sorta helped. And the fact SOMEONE decided to send a host to aid the City of Shade. The Armaggedon did not destroy the world after all. What do you know, you didn't need Elminster or Khelben or Pierigon to save you from the mess you made after all. Of course, Elminster, back in Shadowdale, would just take a puff on his pipe, blow a beautiful smoke ring, and comment: I always knew they'd pull through. They just needed a little nudging. Now, I must admit, we did not have Balance. Balance, that wondrous thing that everyone believes is essential to a game, was not there. Or was it? Surely, with nuclear weapons flying, blast waves making the moons stream like comets, the world turning green, vast armies clashing in final duels to the death, and the Gods of Toril refusing to intervene in the slightest way, I was not trying to keep balance, or work towards a balance. Or was I? Aloisius, I wish to give my cheers and compliments to you for your idea of a ritual of love to save things. I had to carefully paraphrase what Aloisius told me, but I wish to say that, the climax of the Weave was not an accident. Zouron, you give yourself too little credit. You transferred that tarrasque to the City of Shade right through the lands between, without harming them! With a simple bit of creativity. And you created the Magocracy, the adult version of Harry Potter, and it still stands, and it's culture will influence the rest of Toril forever. Balor, I always loved your posts; especially the fiery ones at the start of the first IR thread: why do you think I pleaded with you to allow me to put them all back in before I asked Piratecat to put them in the histories? So, where were you? Heh, you could have done a great job at any power you wished to run. Estlor, I missed you. You should have spoken for the elves, including the elves of Evermeet, and not me. (I must wonder how Forrester thinks of my rping of elves ...) I suppose that if you had run them, the elves would not be cavorting and dancing and mating with the humanoids, but your solemn serious posts depicted the People well, as they are portrayed in the literature on FR. Blood Jester, I wish you had stayed, and played out the Faerie. The Faerie will be remembered as stubborn cusses; enough defected with the dragons to return the Faerie to Toril, and the Queen dares not exile them because the Unseelie would jump on that. Cheers to Gez, who took Aloisius's place and continued with the Church of Toril. A bit aggressive there, no? Heh ... you can't get all the Gods instantly. Will take time. And to a certain person who e-mailed me, and who has a special gift at words, thanks for playing the Sigilians and Sharn. Who better than you to play the Sharn? They were always a mysterious, but brilliant, race. I wish to extend my regret that you did not get more of a chance to play. Talos, thanks for joining in. If you had come in earlier, I think the world would have ended! To the slaadi player, good playing. Your Wave of Chaos went off after all, didn't it?! (the condition of Toril's sun will reflect it for centuries to come, too.) Who did I miss. Well, about 20 other people. Nuts. One cannot give credit to a few, and not to all. I guess I should have never posted above ... Thank you all. Thanks for posting, and playing. Thanks for the fun. Now, it does beg one question: How did you all somehow manage to avoid utterly destroying Realmspace? I'm still puzzling over that one ... [ December 09, 2001: Message edited by: Edena_of_Neith ] Posts: 1620 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member Member # 1235 posted December 09, 2001 03:05 AM Gez, I don't know. The others know of this project, and they may have something to say on it. They may prevent the Church of Toril from completing it, or at least completing it in that form. Posts: 1620 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged Edena_of_Neith Member Member # 1235 posted December 09, 2001 03:16 AM You know, the current world could be a regular D&D setting, with just a few modifications. Take out technology, and technomagic does not exist thus, and we must assume very high powered magic is the driving engine of the UC. But nothing else, is changed. I admit, it is an FR knocked completely out of all recognition. Some will say that it is like a tree someone mutilated with a chain saw (look of pain, for that just happened today next door.) Perhaps they are right ... in which case the actions of the Powers That Be in the Official Setting are justified: They would never have allowed the Industrial Revolution to even take it's first steps, much less have tolerated what subsequently happened! The Powers That Be on Toril, would have stomped down on everyone pretty quick. Then again, perhaps they are wrong, and the Toril you created is not a multilated ruined affair, in which case, well ... we created something new and different. But did we create something worth remembering? Something you'd want as a campaign world? Posts: 1620 | From: Michigan, United States | Registered: Jan 2001 | IP: Logged All times are US Central Time This topic is comprised of pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 Hop To: Contact Us | EN World - D&D/d20 News & Reviews Powered by Infopop Corporation Ultimate Bulletin BoardTM 6.1.0.3 [/QUOTE]
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