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<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 181356" data-attributes="member: 2020"><p><strong>STATEMENT FROM DM</strong></p><p></p><p>Forsaken One posted:</p><p></p><p> ATOMS AND MOLECULES CAN'T REACT SPLIT OR FUSE </p><p></p><p> In other words I just sterilised 3 worlds if it worked and everyone on it. </p><p> Edena I'm dropping my defenses and CDGing myself, 100% total self sacrifise. The power unleashed will be absorbed my Vaergoth herself. That would leave 1 PC remaining and the rest dead.</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> But since 12th magic will cancel it all and render even these seeming catastrophic plans null and void..... </p><p> Just a symbol of resistance, 12th will cancel it all before it's done anyway I presume. </p><p> My changes don't even effect 12th so.... you know as well as I do that this won't work so don't be surprised. </p><p> And a CORRECTION OF PLANS EDENA, I'm gonna use all the magic powers and psionic powers I got to fuel my PC as possible to become the powers themself. </p><p> My remaining minions will just suicide themselves into the vessels of the Millitant fair, maybe I'll scratch it and will force them to a new paint job. </p><p> I won't hurt Athas, damn man I try to protect and save it and I will just let these guys have a good life. </p><p> I change 1 use of my reality changes!!!!!!!!!!!!! </p><p> I change the change to mystara to stop all atoms and molecules to reacto split or fuse to: </p><p> Kill all magic on Toril (hah have fun with your weave mystra).</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> RULING:</p><p></p><p> Yes, Forsaken One, you could have done the above, and destroyed all life in Realmspace, Greyspace, and Krynnspace (or just in Realmspace, as per your second post.)</p><p></p><p> However ...</p><p></p><p> The taraakian assault was SO sudden, so unexpected, and so quick (like a bomb going off) that your Power does not have a chance to do any of these things.</p><p></p><p> In that split second of assault, ALL you can do is launch a Defense, as per the standard rules, and hope it works.</p><p></p><p> I am allowing that others can aid you in that Defense, stacking their Defense with yours, so that your Defense might actually work, and keep the Diadem of Dreams out of the hands of the taraakians.</p><p></p><p> I am not allowing this because it is realistic - it isn't. The taraakian assault was too swift, and too unexpected - even with your Seers to warn you.</p><p></p><p> I am allowing this because it is not fair to strike, and give my players no chance to fight back.</p><p></p><p> - - -</p><p></p><p> Unfortunately, I do not see other Powers attempting to Defend you now.</p><p> If you had not posted what you just posted, I am willing to bet that Sollir, Mr. Draco, Serpenteye, and others would have helped - and certainly the Alliance of Dread would have aided you.</p><p> </p><p> The Alliance of Dread will STILL help you - as I am DM, I am ruling they cannot see the future - but I doubt others will help the Hive Cluster.</p><p></p><p> Although this would be metagaming, I sympathize with them even so.</p><p> Why should they help you, when you have made it clear that, if you retain the Diadem of Dreams, you will kill them all?</p><p></p><p> And you overestimate the power of the taraakians.</p><p> The taraakians CANNOT resurrect a star, after it has collapsed into a Black Hole.</p><p> Which is what happens when you put out the fusion process in a star, when that star is 1.5 times greater in mass than our IRL sun is.</p><p></p><p> Also, the taraakians cannot resurrect a White Dwarf.</p><p> That is the result of putting out the fusion in a star that is less than 1.5 times the mass of our own sun.</p><p></p><p> There are limits to even their magic, and resurrecting dead stars is well beyond their capacity.</p><p></p><p> As in real life, so it is with the game.</p><p> The entire medical system of the entire IRL world could not, even if undamaged, handle the effects of one direct hit on a city with a hydrogen bomb.</p><p> This is a classic case of the power to destroy being far greater than the power to heal.</p><p></p><p> In D&D, a fighter (much less a mage) can quickly do an amount of damage with his sword that is far beyond any cleric's ability to heal, even if that cleric is high level and he uses his entire spell repetoire.</p><p></p><p> So it is with the Diadem of Dreams.</p><p> It was not meant as a weapon of destruction, but AS a weapon of destruction, it's potential is truly staggering.</p><p> Yes, it will put out a star.</p><p> Yes, it has already done so. The supergiant red star that lit Athas is now a Black Hole.</p><p></p><p> However, there is no magic in the multiverse that can undo what you have done to that star.</p><p></p><p> If you do retain the Diadem of Dreams - if the taraakians fail to take it in their Attack - and you put out the stars in Realmspace, Greyspace, and Krynnspace, that is the end.</p><p> That is the final end.</p><p></p><p> However, you have not done so yet.</p><p></p><p> You MUST succeed in foiling the taraakian effort to take the Diadem of Dreams from you, before you can do ANYTHING with the Diadem of Dreams.</p><p></p><p> Which means, you had better talk some people into helping you Defend against their Attack.</p><p></p><p> Good luck. My Alliance of Dread will help, but unless you do some real talking and convincing, I wouldn't count on too much help from the others.</p><p></p><p> The death machines, who have a vested interest in aiding you in destroying all life, WILL help you in your Defense.</p><p> However, they can only muster a Total Defense of 20.</p><p> The Alliance of Dread (2 Powers) under my control can muster another 8.</p><p> That's 32.</p><p> You have 4. That makes 36.</p><p></p><p> That means the current number is 4.</p><p></p><p> The odds are still, slightly, against you.</p><p> You are going to need additional help.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 181356, member: 2020"] [b]STATEMENT FROM DM[/b] Forsaken One posted: ATOMS AND MOLECULES CAN'T REACT SPLIT OR FUSE In other words I just sterilised 3 worlds if it worked and everyone on it. Edena I'm dropping my defenses and CDGing myself, 100% total self sacrifise. The power unleashed will be absorbed my Vaergoth herself. That would leave 1 PC remaining and the rest dead. - - - But since 12th magic will cancel it all and render even these seeming catastrophic plans null and void..... Just a symbol of resistance, 12th will cancel it all before it's done anyway I presume. My changes don't even effect 12th so.... you know as well as I do that this won't work so don't be surprised. And a CORRECTION OF PLANS EDENA, I'm gonna use all the magic powers and psionic powers I got to fuel my PC as possible to become the powers themself. My remaining minions will just suicide themselves into the vessels of the Millitant fair, maybe I'll scratch it and will force them to a new paint job. I won't hurt Athas, damn man I try to protect and save it and I will just let these guys have a good life. I change 1 use of my reality changes!!!!!!!!!!!!! I change the change to mystara to stop all atoms and molecules to reacto split or fuse to: Kill all magic on Toril (hah have fun with your weave mystra). - - - RULING: Yes, Forsaken One, you could have done the above, and destroyed all life in Realmspace, Greyspace, and Krynnspace (or just in Realmspace, as per your second post.) However ... The taraakian assault was SO sudden, so unexpected, and so quick (like a bomb going off) that your Power does not have a chance to do any of these things. In that split second of assault, ALL you can do is launch a Defense, as per the standard rules, and hope it works. I am allowing that others can aid you in that Defense, stacking their Defense with yours, so that your Defense might actually work, and keep the Diadem of Dreams out of the hands of the taraakians. I am not allowing this because it is realistic - it isn't. The taraakian assault was too swift, and too unexpected - even with your Seers to warn you. I am allowing this because it is not fair to strike, and give my players no chance to fight back. - - - Unfortunately, I do not see other Powers attempting to Defend you now. If you had not posted what you just posted, I am willing to bet that Sollir, Mr. Draco, Serpenteye, and others would have helped - and certainly the Alliance of Dread would have aided you. The Alliance of Dread will STILL help you - as I am DM, I am ruling they cannot see the future - but I doubt others will help the Hive Cluster. Although this would be metagaming, I sympathize with them even so. Why should they help you, when you have made it clear that, if you retain the Diadem of Dreams, you will kill them all? And you overestimate the power of the taraakians. The taraakians CANNOT resurrect a star, after it has collapsed into a Black Hole. Which is what happens when you put out the fusion process in a star, when that star is 1.5 times greater in mass than our IRL sun is. Also, the taraakians cannot resurrect a White Dwarf. That is the result of putting out the fusion in a star that is less than 1.5 times the mass of our own sun. There are limits to even their magic, and resurrecting dead stars is well beyond their capacity. As in real life, so it is with the game. The entire medical system of the entire IRL world could not, even if undamaged, handle the effects of one direct hit on a city with a hydrogen bomb. This is a classic case of the power to destroy being far greater than the power to heal. In D&D, a fighter (much less a mage) can quickly do an amount of damage with his sword that is far beyond any cleric's ability to heal, even if that cleric is high level and he uses his entire spell repetoire. So it is with the Diadem of Dreams. It was not meant as a weapon of destruction, but AS a weapon of destruction, it's potential is truly staggering. Yes, it will put out a star. Yes, it has already done so. The supergiant red star that lit Athas is now a Black Hole. However, there is no magic in the multiverse that can undo what you have done to that star. If you do retain the Diadem of Dreams - if the taraakians fail to take it in their Attack - and you put out the stars in Realmspace, Greyspace, and Krynnspace, that is the end. That is the final end. However, you have not done so yet. You MUST succeed in foiling the taraakian effort to take the Diadem of Dreams from you, before you can do ANYTHING with the Diadem of Dreams. Which means, you had better talk some people into helping you Defend against their Attack. Good luck. My Alliance of Dread will help, but unless you do some real talking and convincing, I wouldn't count on too much help from the others. The death machines, who have a vested interest in aiding you in destroying all life, WILL help you in your Defense. However, they can only muster a Total Defense of 20. The Alliance of Dread (2 Powers) under my control can muster another 8. That's 32. You have 4. That makes 36. That means the current number is 4. The odds are still, slightly, against you. You are going to need additional help. [/QUOTE]
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