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<blockquote data-quote="Guilt Puppy" data-source="post: 1971255" data-attributes="member: 6521"><p>Since the voting measures seem pretty much Okayed by all, Abbon produces a copy of the current charter, and commences with his arguments against Iuz.</p><p></p><p>The current charter:</p><p></p><p>[sblock] The drow submit the details of the TEC Pact, as requested:</p><p></p><p>Anabstercorians' power of Rary/Greyhawk/The Bright Lands</p><p>Bugbears' power of Greater Nyrond</p><p>Edena_of_Neiths' power of the Queendom of Eclavdor (the Drow and Yuan-Ti)</p><p>Guilt Puppys' power of the Scarlet Brotherhood</p><p>Kalanyrs' power of Miranda/Marchwards/Elvanian Forest/Gigantea/Hyperboria</p><p>Knight Otus' power of Greater Aerdi</p><p>Melkors' power of the Vampires/Ivid/Sahuagin</p><p>Nac Mac Feegles' power of the Iron League/Ulek League/Isle of the Phoenix.</p><p>Paxus' power of the Wolf God and his people.</p><p>Rikandurs' power of Iuz and the Empire of Iuz.</p><p>Sollirs' power of the Empire of Lynn.</p><p>Thomas' power of Aliador/Celene/Lendores/The Theocracy</p><p>Uveneleis' power of the Tempest of Hell and the Tharquish Empire.</p><p>Venus' power of Orcreich/Greater Khanate/Lesser Khanate.</p><p></p><p>The Charter of the TEC Pact (this is the original charter)</p><p></p><p>1: An attack upon one member of the TEC Pact is an attack on all the members of the TEC Pact.</p><p></p><p>2: All members of the TEC Pact are required to meet any single attack with an equivalent counterattack: If one TEC Pact member is attacked by 10,000 warriors, then all the TEC Pact members must attack the attacker with 10,000 warriors.</p><p>If any individual TEC Pact power has no way to issue a counterattack to help out as the TEC Pact requires, it had better have a good reason why it could not meet its' obligations.</p><p></p><p>3: If an attack is made directly upon any of the leaders ((Player Characters)) of the TEC Pact powers, all the TEC Pact members must immediately send as much force as is required to protect those leaders and drive off the attackers. In addition, all leaders and their following (significant NPCs) have guaranteed protection in each others' safeholds and territories.</p><p></p><p>4: TEC Pact powers must use their magic and/or psionics to ensure their individual power and it's leaders immediately knows if another TEC Pact leader is under attack, so they can immediately send help to save that leader.</p><p></p><p>5: If a TEC Pact member commits treason by attacking another TEC Pact member with Armies, or allies with Vecna, or otherwise does something obviously treasonous, the penalty for said treason is the destruction of that power, the burning of its' lands, and the massacre of its' people. This Retribution against treason is to be undertaken immediately by all TEC Pact members.</p><p></p><p>-</p><p></p><p>TEC Pact Addendum:</p><p></p><p>3 or 4 of the TEC Pact members have Opt-Out Clauses. They required these Opt Out Clauses as prerequisites to joining the Pact.</p><p>If they Opt out of the Pact, that is not considered a hostile act. They do lose all rights and protections of the Pact immediately, though.[/sblock]</p><p></p><p>Abbon Craylor points out several clauses of the Pact:</p><p></p><p>"First we refer to Section Five, the penalty for treason. You will note that it leaves the definition of treason open to interpretation, clearly for situations such as this. Nowhere does it state that removing the crown from the head of a fallen ally should be considered treason, but by what good judgment should such action be considered acceptable? Indeed, short of actual assassination, what can be considered more treasonous than taking, without any consent, what is not only a symbol of rulership but is also an artifact of significant power to its rightful bearer? When Eclavdra fell, Iuz' first reaction was to remove her Regalia, and don it himself -- what more shocking display of opportunism and disregard for our Pact could there be? The terms of the Pact are clear: At this moment, Iuz forfeited all rights and protections of the Pact, and our collective duty became <em>his annihilation.</em>"</p><p></p><p>"The Pact provides for no trial in these cases: 'This Retribution against treason is to be undertaken immediately by all TEC Pact members.' That so few responded against Iuz is cause for some doubt regarding the efficacy of this Pact... I can only hope that, once this Summit finalizes its terms, our members will be less hesitant about its enforcement. In any case, when the Brotherhood arrived to subdue Iuz, he resisted, then fled -- his refusal to be present for these proceedings should evidence further his wishes to remain a fugitive from justice."</p><p></p><p>"Further, regarding Iuz' subsequent attack against myself and my Brothers, when we were on a mission to preserve stability in his Empire to protect our fellow Pact-members, I quote section four: 'All leaders <em>(and their following (significant NPCs))</em> have guaranteed protection in each others' safeholds and territories.' For Iuz to claim that the Brotherhood is 'outlawed' in his territories is in direct violation of the Pact... His attack upon myself and my other statesman, and assassination of one our Elders, inarguably constitutes yet further treason on his part -- excepting only that he should already have been considered disbanded and hostile, and so technically no longer obligated to the conditions of the Pact. Regardless, if there could possibly remain any doubts about his status, those doubts were destroyed by his actions against our Brotherhood."</p><p></p><p>"That Iuz is guilty of treason against the Pact should be clear to all. We respect the wishes of the Pact to continue with these proceedings, as the cause of justice should never be considered too shortly, but we see little room for doubt that Iuz is guilty of these charges."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guilt Puppy, post: 1971255, member: 6521"] Since the voting measures seem pretty much Okayed by all, Abbon produces a copy of the current charter, and commences with his arguments against Iuz. The current charter: [sblock] The drow submit the details of the TEC Pact, as requested: Anabstercorians' power of Rary/Greyhawk/The Bright Lands Bugbears' power of Greater Nyrond Edena_of_Neiths' power of the Queendom of Eclavdor (the Drow and Yuan-Ti) Guilt Puppys' power of the Scarlet Brotherhood Kalanyrs' power of Miranda/Marchwards/Elvanian Forest/Gigantea/Hyperboria Knight Otus' power of Greater Aerdi Melkors' power of the Vampires/Ivid/Sahuagin Nac Mac Feegles' power of the Iron League/Ulek League/Isle of the Phoenix. Paxus' power of the Wolf God and his people. Rikandurs' power of Iuz and the Empire of Iuz. Sollirs' power of the Empire of Lynn. Thomas' power of Aliador/Celene/Lendores/The Theocracy Uveneleis' power of the Tempest of Hell and the Tharquish Empire. Venus' power of Orcreich/Greater Khanate/Lesser Khanate. The Charter of the TEC Pact (this is the original charter) 1: An attack upon one member of the TEC Pact is an attack on all the members of the TEC Pact. 2: All members of the TEC Pact are required to meet any single attack with an equivalent counterattack: If one TEC Pact member is attacked by 10,000 warriors, then all the TEC Pact members must attack the attacker with 10,000 warriors. If any individual TEC Pact power has no way to issue a counterattack to help out as the TEC Pact requires, it had better have a good reason why it could not meet its' obligations. 3: If an attack is made directly upon any of the leaders ((Player Characters)) of the TEC Pact powers, all the TEC Pact members must immediately send as much force as is required to protect those leaders and drive off the attackers. In addition, all leaders and their following (significant NPCs) have guaranteed protection in each others' safeholds and territories. 4: TEC Pact powers must use their magic and/or psionics to ensure their individual power and it's leaders immediately knows if another TEC Pact leader is under attack, so they can immediately send help to save that leader. 5: If a TEC Pact member commits treason by attacking another TEC Pact member with Armies, or allies with Vecna, or otherwise does something obviously treasonous, the penalty for said treason is the destruction of that power, the burning of its' lands, and the massacre of its' people. This Retribution against treason is to be undertaken immediately by all TEC Pact members. - TEC Pact Addendum: 3 or 4 of the TEC Pact members have Opt-Out Clauses. They required these Opt Out Clauses as prerequisites to joining the Pact. If they Opt out of the Pact, that is not considered a hostile act. They do lose all rights and protections of the Pact immediately, though.[/sblock] Abbon Craylor points out several clauses of the Pact: "First we refer to Section Five, the penalty for treason. You will note that it leaves the definition of treason open to interpretation, clearly for situations such as this. Nowhere does it state that removing the crown from the head of a fallen ally should be considered treason, but by what good judgment should such action be considered acceptable? Indeed, short of actual assassination, what can be considered more treasonous than taking, without any consent, what is not only a symbol of rulership but is also an artifact of significant power to its rightful bearer? When Eclavdra fell, Iuz' first reaction was to remove her Regalia, and don it himself -- what more shocking display of opportunism and disregard for our Pact could there be? The terms of the Pact are clear: At this moment, Iuz forfeited all rights and protections of the Pact, and our collective duty became [i]his annihilation.[/i]" "The Pact provides for no trial in these cases: 'This Retribution against treason is to be undertaken immediately by all TEC Pact members.' That so few responded against Iuz is cause for some doubt regarding the efficacy of this Pact... I can only hope that, once this Summit finalizes its terms, our members will be less hesitant about its enforcement. In any case, when the Brotherhood arrived to subdue Iuz, he resisted, then fled -- his refusal to be present for these proceedings should evidence further his wishes to remain a fugitive from justice." "Further, regarding Iuz' subsequent attack against myself and my Brothers, when we were on a mission to preserve stability in his Empire to protect our fellow Pact-members, I quote section four: 'All leaders [i](and their following (significant NPCs))[/i] have guaranteed protection in each others' safeholds and territories.' For Iuz to claim that the Brotherhood is 'outlawed' in his territories is in direct violation of the Pact... His attack upon myself and my other statesman, and assassination of one our Elders, inarguably constitutes yet further treason on his part -- excepting only that he should already have been considered disbanded and hostile, and so technically no longer obligated to the conditions of the Pact. Regardless, if there could possibly remain any doubts about his status, those doubts were destroyed by his actions against our Brotherhood." "That Iuz is guilty of treason against the Pact should be clear to all. We respect the wishes of the Pact to continue with these proceedings, as the cause of justice should never be considered too shortly, but we see little room for doubt that Iuz is guilty of these charges." [/QUOTE]
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