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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2024395" data-attributes="member: 2011">So is a character bound in ropes helpless or not?I agree that this item would not work against a lot of creatures.But, how would another interpretation of this such as entangled or only immobile work any better against these creatures?In any of the interpretations, either the item affects the creature as intended or it does not (i.e. either the DM rules they are immune or he does not. It is magic after all.).I was wondering when someone was going to chime in with this. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> How many "Helpless due to being bound" spells are you aware of in the PHB? There are a lot of items where they picked the next best spell they could find.The classic example is a Bag of Holding at 2500 GP to 10,000 GP which uses Leomund's Secret Chest (at a cost of 5000 GP to create the chest and 50 GP to create the replica) to craft it (as opposed to using a simple dimensional spell like Rope Trick). If you are creating a lot of Bags of Holding, sure, you could re-use the chest and replica. But if you are only creating one, it is nonsensical.This doesn't illustrate anything other than there is not a one to one relationship between many items and the spells used to create them. You have to use the description of the item, not the description of the spell used to create it.</blockquote>

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