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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HighTemplar" data-source="post: 4479808" data-attributes="member: 77594">This thread concerns the Iron Dragon Charge daily power, Warlord lvl 9 Just need to be convinces about this...Here are a coupple of cases from most abusive scenarios to ridiculously weak ones depending on interpretation: 1)You charge, using IDC, and so can all your friends 5sq from you. 2)You charge, using IDC, and a friend charges and also uses IDC, to trigger your third friend who also uses IDC and so on(assuming theyre all fresh lv 9 warlord of course). This is due to the fact that IDC is a special charge action but is this legal ? well come back to it. 3)You charge and only one of your friends gets the chance to charge your target as well this turn. When you charge another foe next turn, another of your friends that are within 5sq can charge with you as well, and so does the first one. 4) like 3) but the first one that charged with you cannot charge as you chose someone else as the target of "an ally of your choice"- he uses his immediate reaction, you decide hes your choice (?) 5) like 3), but the only friend who can charge with you for the whole encounter is your first friend 6) like 5), but he also needs to be within 5sq of you everytime you charge to followup 7)worse of the worse, You charge using IDC, but as the EFFECT line takes effect after your HIT, you have already charged the target, your action now being over, it is too late for your friends to use any immediate reaction to followup your charge. They are inspired by your action but will only be able to charge in with you on your next charge leading to points 7.1 to 7.6 using previous cases. Comments ? (this power can be pretty unclear, answer is most likely 3 to 6 to prevent abuse and not make the power worthless) NOTE: using IDC is stated as a standard action (does it require erratum?) looking into the SPECIAL line, im assuming it is a power you can only use on your turn, getting rid of 2), but, checking Garrote Grip(rogue 15) and Precision Cut( Paragon fighter- swordmaster 11), have on action type, standard(special). This is because they both can be done by an action that isint a standard one (minor or free, in this case). Charging on the other hand is always a standard action, if you forget this power which can grant a free charging action, could it be possible that you could use this as part of any charge action (whether you used a standard during your turn, or not or if the charge attack is granted freely). *It is possible to have someone charge during your turn using helm of heroes and many warlord powers so its more about whether you used a standard action tocharge or not. Discuss!</blockquote>

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