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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Felon" data-source="post: 2478742" data-attributes="member: 8158">Since you cannot conceive that anyone whose opinion differs from yours is anything than a petulant, obtuse, whiny child, you are hardly positioning yourself to be the next posterchild for open-mindedness. Magic is a definitive component of the genre. It was as such when Robert E. Howard was writing for Weird Tales, and it was as such when George R. R. Martin was writing his stuff. That's why they rewrote their stories to include magic when originally the stories didn't contain them--because otherwise, they'd be considered as pseudo-historical fiction. And more imporatnly, it's a definitive component in Iron Heroes. Rules for magic should be supported in some fashion (if not in the PHB, then a supplement), and expect that players will envision characters that will have access to it.And before you say "well, that's just because the audience at large lack the imagination to accept fantasy without magic", I will not only point that is not a case of de facto reasoning, but I ask you: is it a particularly imaginative response?</blockquote>