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<blockquote data-quote="Wulf Ratbane" data-source="post: 2101183" data-attributes="member: 94">Three things:1) The numbers used to describe EL are different, but the relative EL is exactly the same. What is a moderate encounter for Party X in D&amp;D is exactly the same moderate encounter in GT.2) Dragons aren't the best example since WOTC intentionally undervalues their CR by a factor of 2/3. Makes 'em seem &quot;tougher.&quot; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> But to answer your question: CR in GT is exactly the same as CR in D&amp;D.3) Yeah, you could use the CR as printed, but that doesn't change the same situational modifiers that would be present in D&amp;D-- chief among which is probably &quot;Can they fly, do they have ranged weapons, and/or can they get to cover?&quot; But that's the same as it would be in D&amp;D-- doesn't change the dragon's CR, yet it is still a factor to be considered. Whether or not the party has &quot;magic&quot; or &quot;tech&quot; is certainly relevant, I wouldn't dispute that.But then I suspect even Iron Lore would have its own problems with unequipped PCs caught by a dragon on an open field. (I hope that doesn't sound like a straw man setup.)Wulf</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wulf Ratbane, post: 2101183, member: 94"] Three things: 1) The [i]numbers[/i] used to describe EL are different, but the relative EL is exactly the same. What is a moderate encounter for Party X in D&D is exactly the same moderate encounter in GT. 2) Dragons aren't the best example since WOTC intentionally undervalues their CR by a factor of 2/3. Makes 'em seem "tougher." ;) But to answer your question: CR in GT is exactly the same as CR in D&D. 3) Yeah, you could use the CR as printed, but that doesn't change the same situational modifiers that would be present in D&D-- chief among which is probably "Can they fly, do they have ranged weapons, and/or can they get to cover?" But that's the same as it would be in D&D-- doesn't change the dragon's CR, yet it is still a factor to be considered. Whether or not the party has "magic" or "tech" is certainly relevant, I wouldn't dispute that. But then I suspect even Iron Lore would have its own problems with unequipped PCs caught by a dragon on an open field. (I hope that doesn't sound like a straw man setup.) Wulf [/QUOTE]

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