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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Azgulor" data-source="post: 2263341" data-attributes="member: 14291">Well, since the amount of available information about the product is limited, it's probably garnering more attention than it would otherwise.  Also, the fact that I consider the Archer an archetypical staple of fantasy (Legolas, Robin Hood, etc.) and have NEVER seen a decent Archer class (IMO) that puts it on equal footing to their melee-oriented counterparts had me eagerly awaiting additional info on this class.  I had extremely high (perhaps unreasonably so) hopes for this class based on the quality of Mr. Mearls work (which I have found to be among the best in the industry).Maybe it was the presentation (laying escape routes in advance, etc.), maybe it struck me as a trademark trick I would quickly grow tired of, maybe I just thought it was cheesy.  Probably, it was because I could actually hear the groans of my players in my ears as I envisioned a session where a PC or NPC suggested or used such a class "ability".Think of it this way: I advance in the class so that I'm Ranged Death against moving opponents that presumably are defending themselves because they want to live.  Is shooting a series of arrows against a structure/tree/etc. so that I can use them as an impromptu ladder really a challenge that I need to dedicate a class ability to do it?  And one I'll achieve/take at high level to boot?All of that aside, I never said the book wouldn't be good.  Hell, I never said the class wasn't good.  My reservation (and this seems a pretty consistent opinion of the posters that had similar interpretations to mine) was that the book was not necessarily trying to emulate swords-n-sorcery rather than default D&D High Fantasy.  It's trying to present an equivalent D&D power level and style of play without the crutch of omnipresent magic.  The error was mine, in that I expected the book to be something that it now APPEARS not to be.  I'm certain Iron Lore will be a financial success - but I'm now uncertain that I'm part of it's target audience.Azgulor</blockquote>

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