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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dr. Strangemonkey" data-source="post: 2279740" data-attributes="member: 6533">...but wait there's more!In general I'm good with wahoo, I just think you put a term like that into the debate and you better expect it to get debated and negotiated pretty regular.There is one thing, though, it's very hard for me to reconcile the idea that high wahoo must equal not low-fantasy.I'm not arguing that IL doesn't immediately give off a low fantasy vibe, though I might argue that that's how it will actually play since upping the stats of the characters effectively lowers the threat of the high fantasy creatures*, but I would argue that there's a lot of low fantasy that has a pretty high level of wahoo.Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser running from muggers in a tent and later taking out some sort of Frost Wyrm with a cat and a pike come to mind and those aren't even the most egregious examples.  Conan wrestling with gorillas in priest suits or surving a blow from a Pictish war axe only because he made his helmet himself in 'proper' barbarian fashion also stand out.So unless Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser's high wahoo level disqualifies them as low fantasy then I think you just got a call a spade a spade and say it's the wahoo and not the fantasy level that bothers ya.  Or both, hey, whatever.* - on the other hand even a comparatively nerfed flying brontosaurus that spits fire and speaks spells is still a flying brontosaurus that spits fire and speaks spells.** - on the gripping hand invisible flying furry manta ray and dewinged interstellar elephant god.  Just sayin.*** - on the other other other hand there's no doubt that Fafhrd/GM get a lot more tension out of climbing a mountain than you are likely to see in many other fantasy short stories.  So it's all too likely that you've really got to view your wahoo as existing in some sort of balance between wahoo and non-wahoo.  Cause sure Xena and Fafhrd/GM will all of them take giants in single blows and then get captured randomly by simple mooks and they'll fight for forever without loosing limbs and you'll never read a story and expect any of them to die, but you will never see Xena get stuck in a chimney while climbing a mountain and have it be anything other than a comedy moment.  I don't know if IL will feature that level of tension over skill at every level or even if it will at all, but if it does I think it would then be a little unfair to criticize it for the ability in question rather than simply questioning the ability itself.</blockquote>

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