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<blockquote data-quote="Irda Ranger" data-source="post: 2283641" data-attributes="member: 1003"><p>This last point seems right; I'd just like to know how it works out in play. I hope this is right, because multiclassing makes a near infinite number of new doors open up in character creation.</p><p></p><p> </p><p>Um, no. </p><p></p><p>Mastery is a class ability. If you allowed Stats to stack, consider an Archer with 18 Dex would </p><p>- Get 17th level projectile feats at only 9th level.</p><p>- Get the Rank 10 Feats in Finesse and Defense at 13th and 11th levels, respectively, <em>even though that is not their area of expertise</em>. The Archer would be able to do <em>everything</em> a Harrier or Armiger can do. Shouldn't something be reserved for those who specialize in it? Shouldn't Archers be the only ones who can get Rank 10 in Projectile? I think so.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Show me any 17th level Class ability, and I bet the Rank 10 Feats would be similar. That includes 9th level spells.</p><p></p><p>I would suspect so.</p><p></p><p>There is no need to. Once you have the base feat you can take any other feat in the tree. You do not need to take them all, or in order.</p><p> </p><p>No it doesn't. Spend as few feats as you want. See above.</p><p></p><p>Lots of things are difficult. That doesn't mean they're impossible. We have to wait until we see the whole system before deciding if it's balanced or not. </p><p> </p><p>Then you should be pleased to realize that the Feat trees in IH are only 2 Feats deep - the Base Feat plus any other feat you like. The Mastery Levels of 1 to 10 speak to the width of you choices, not the depth.</p><p></p><p>Mastery is a class ability. Should Archers and Beserkers get access to Projectile feats at the same time? Should Beserkers and Hunters get access to Tactics at the same time? And for that matter, what does Lore Mastery or Tactics Mastery have to do with BAB?</p><p></p><p>For that matter, since Thieves and Arcanists are bound to have a lower BAB than Beserkers, does that mean that Beserkers should have first access to Lore and Finesse feats?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Irda Ranger, post: 2283641, member: 1003"] This last point seems right; I'd just like to know how it works out in play. I hope this is right, because multiclassing makes a near infinite number of new doors open up in character creation. Um, no. Mastery is a class ability. If you allowed Stats to stack, consider an Archer with 18 Dex would - Get 17th level projectile feats at only 9th level. - Get the Rank 10 Feats in Finesse and Defense at 13th and 11th levels, respectively, [I]even though that is not their area of expertise[/I]. The Archer would be able to do [I]everything[/I] a Harrier or Armiger can do. Shouldn't something be reserved for those who specialize in it? Shouldn't Archers be the only ones who can get Rank 10 in Projectile? I think so. Show me any 17th level Class ability, and I bet the Rank 10 Feats would be similar. That includes 9th level spells. I would suspect so. There is no need to. Once you have the base feat you can take any other feat in the tree. You do not need to take them all, or in order. No it doesn't. Spend as few feats as you want. See above. Lots of things are difficult. That doesn't mean they're impossible. We have to wait until we see the whole system before deciding if it's balanced or not. Then you should be pleased to realize that the Feat trees in IH are only 2 Feats deep - the Base Feat plus any other feat you like. The Mastery Levels of 1 to 10 speak to the width of you choices, not the depth. Mastery is a class ability. Should Archers and Beserkers get access to Projectile feats at the same time? Should Beserkers and Hunters get access to Tactics at the same time? And for that matter, what does Lore Mastery or Tactics Mastery have to do with BAB? For that matter, since Thieves and Arcanists are bound to have a lower BAB than Beserkers, does that mean that Beserkers should have first access to Lore and Finesse feats? [/QUOTE]
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