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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 2321699" data-attributes="member: 4937">So, from the way I'm looking at it, a Beserker with all 10 of the power attack feats can force every target he hits in that round to make up to 5 saving throws plus the almost certainty of a save vs. massive damage?&nbsp; Granted, he'll be getting a -15 penalty to hit, but he'll also probably be getting a +37 bonus to damage.So even if just one attack hits from a raging Beserker we are probably looking at...Fortitude Save DC 29 or -1 penalty to hitReflex Save DC 29 or be knocked prone Will Save DC 29 or be dazedFortitude Save DC 29 or be stunnedFortitude Save DC 15 or dieFortitude Save DC 29 or dieAnything with low AC is toast.&nbsp; That reflex save or avoid being knocked prone is just broken in my opinion, because it does not take into account the size of the creature or the number of legs.&nbsp; Big creatures don't necessarily have good Reflex saves because thier dex is low.&nbsp; Beserker with Expanded mastery 3 taking a -5 penalty on the attack can force a Reflex save on an colossol Sauropod.&nbsp; It's like Captaaaaiiiin Caaaaaveemaannn or something.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 2321699, member: 4937"] So, from the way I'm looking at it, a Beserker with all 10 of the power attack feats can force every target he hits in that round to make up to 5 saving throws plus the almost certainty of a save vs. massive damage? Granted, he'll be getting a -15 penalty to hit, but he'll also probably be getting a +37 bonus to damage. So even if just one attack hits from a raging Beserker we are probably looking at... Fortitude Save DC 29 or -1 penalty to hit Reflex Save DC 29 or be knocked prone Will Save DC 29 or be dazed Fortitude Save DC 29 or be stunned Fortitude Save DC 15 or die Fortitude Save DC 29 or die Anything with low AC is toast. That reflex save or avoid being knocked prone is just broken in my opinion, because it does not take into account the size of the creature or the number of legs. Big creatures don't necessarily have good Reflex saves because thier dex is low. Beserker with Expanded mastery 3 taking a -5 penalty on the attack can force a Reflex save on an colossol Sauropod. It's like Captaaaaiiiin Caaaaaveemaannn or something. [/QUOTE]

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