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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Felon" data-source="post: 4210812" data-attributes="member: 8158">I thought Ultimates was kind of a gyp. The first year or so, they don't fight any villains, just each other. It might be cute on paper to organize this multi-billion-taxpayer-dollar dream team, and then just have them sit around idly like nukes in a silo, but in practice, I'm mystified as to how folks found that entertaining month after month. In fact, I don't recall them fighting anyone until Magneto the Ultimates/X-Men crossover.Millar's thing is going for the shock value--that step or two across the line that separates "edgy" from "tasteless". I like the idea of an ultimate Captain America that's got John Wayne's sense of morality and directness. I don't like a guy who's eager to smash a jack boot into people's faces. I like the idea of an ultimate Hulk that actually causes fatalities during the course of his rampage, but then Millar turns him into a cannibal that takes people apart like a rotisserie chicken. And then there's his ultimate Wasp, a disgusting bug-woman who lays eggs and sheds chitin and spits up goop like Jeff Goldbloom in The Fly.Have to say though, his ultimate Thor was actually the coolest of the bunch. He was the closest to having a regard for human life (an "unrealistic" trait of superheroes that I think is pretty vital to being worthy of the term) that Millar gave us.</blockquote>