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<blockquote data-quote="Michael R. Proteau" data-source="post: 4215021" data-attributes="member: 31935"><p>Since the Marvel announcemnt implied Iron Man 2, Thor, and The First Avenger: Captain America are all leading into the Avengers film, it seems there will be some sort of link to all three of them. There are also reports that Downey did a Stark cameo in Incredible Hulk during filming of Iron Man lending some credence that thye are linking all these as a semi series of sequels. (no clue if it shows up int he main body of the film or as another post credit snippet to tease things to come). There have been reports that Thor will be set up in Iron Man 2 as well. </p><p></p><p>Looking at the 2 comic origins for the Avengers and the Ultimates, you have Loki tricking Thor, Iron Man, and the Pyms into fighting the Hulk and Fury gathering the Ultimates after finding Cap on ice. </p><p></p><p>My guess and speculation is that the Avengers movie will open with the discovery of Cap on Ice, and that the Cap movie will be set in WWII and end with Cap being frozen in the ice after stopping the Rocket fired by Zemo. </p><p></p><p>Setting the Cap solo flick in WWII also addresses some of the concerns that have been reported about how well such a blatantly patriotic character will fare in international box office receipts when public perception of the US internationally is so iffy in places (part of the reason they titled it First Avenger: Captain America and not just Captain America). WWII provides a cleaner backdrop separated from concerns brought about by current affairs. </p><p></p><p>Using Loki as a foil in the Thor movie and then having him mastermind a plot to get revenge on Thor in the Avengers movie also provides another link. Having Loki behind the scenes maniulating things and having the Hulk be the physical foil for Cap, Thor, Iron Man, (and maybe the Pyms) provides a menace they can cut loose with and provide plenty of screen time for all the heroes (and the stars with desire to have face time) to shine. </p><p></p><p>Using that train of thought, a Thor movie by a director known for his fantasty themed genre films (like Stardust) could very well be set in Asgard, not Midgard, with Loki as the main foil using mythological creaturs (say giants and trolls) as the main fodder for fight scenes, and have it climax with Thor foiling Loki's scheme but being just a tad too arrogant in his victory and being sent to Midgard to learn humility, setting up his sojourn on Earth and his role in the Avengers. </p><p></p><p>It also allows each film to have its own identity with release dats so close, but all build as part of a much larger story. </p><p></p><p>I am also guesing that Iron Man 2 will largely be based on the Demon In a Bottle storyline dealing with Tony Stark's battle with alcoholism, since that aspect of the character is one of the things that drew Downey to the role, and he has so much personal experience in that to invest into the role it would make a powerful performance. The first Iron Man movie also took a lot of time to highlight Tony getting and consuming alcohol (from our opening scene in the military caravan to the scene at the bar at his party, and others) that it was obvious they were setting this up for later usage. If Fury's character plays a larger role in Iron Man 2, they could also introduce the Pym's as SHIELD scientists and part of the Avengers Initiative, setting up for the later Avengers movie. </p><p></p><p>It would be fun if they used little post credit snippets like the introduction of Fury to keep tying these together and building towards Avengers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Michael R. Proteau, post: 4215021, member: 31935"] Since the Marvel announcemnt implied Iron Man 2, Thor, and The First Avenger: Captain America are all leading into the Avengers film, it seems there will be some sort of link to all three of them. There are also reports that Downey did a Stark cameo in Incredible Hulk during filming of Iron Man lending some credence that thye are linking all these as a semi series of sequels. (no clue if it shows up int he main body of the film or as another post credit snippet to tease things to come). There have been reports that Thor will be set up in Iron Man 2 as well. Looking at the 2 comic origins for the Avengers and the Ultimates, you have Loki tricking Thor, Iron Man, and the Pyms into fighting the Hulk and Fury gathering the Ultimates after finding Cap on ice. My guess and speculation is that the Avengers movie will open with the discovery of Cap on Ice, and that the Cap movie will be set in WWII and end with Cap being frozen in the ice after stopping the Rocket fired by Zemo. Setting the Cap solo flick in WWII also addresses some of the concerns that have been reported about how well such a blatantly patriotic character will fare in international box office receipts when public perception of the US internationally is so iffy in places (part of the reason they titled it First Avenger: Captain America and not just Captain America). WWII provides a cleaner backdrop separated from concerns brought about by current affairs. Using Loki as a foil in the Thor movie and then having him mastermind a plot to get revenge on Thor in the Avengers movie also provides another link. Having Loki behind the scenes maniulating things and having the Hulk be the physical foil for Cap, Thor, Iron Man, (and maybe the Pyms) provides a menace they can cut loose with and provide plenty of screen time for all the heroes (and the stars with desire to have face time) to shine. Using that train of thought, a Thor movie by a director known for his fantasty themed genre films (like Stardust) could very well be set in Asgard, not Midgard, with Loki as the main foil using mythological creaturs (say giants and trolls) as the main fodder for fight scenes, and have it climax with Thor foiling Loki's scheme but being just a tad too arrogant in his victory and being sent to Midgard to learn humility, setting up his sojourn on Earth and his role in the Avengers. It also allows each film to have its own identity with release dats so close, but all build as part of a much larger story. I am also guesing that Iron Man 2 will largely be based on the Demon In a Bottle storyline dealing with Tony Stark's battle with alcoholism, since that aspect of the character is one of the things that drew Downey to the role, and he has so much personal experience in that to invest into the role it would make a powerful performance. The first Iron Man movie also took a lot of time to highlight Tony getting and consuming alcohol (from our opening scene in the military caravan to the scene at the bar at his party, and others) that it was obvious they were setting this up for later usage. If Fury's character plays a larger role in Iron Man 2, they could also introduce the Pym's as SHIELD scientists and part of the Avengers Initiative, setting up for the later Avengers movie. It would be fun if they used little post credit snippets like the introduction of Fury to keep tying these together and building towards Avengers. [/QUOTE]
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