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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sejs" data-source="post: 877727" data-attributes="member: 4910">So you're saying if I have a weapon that's the same length, balance, weight, and edge as a bastard sword, due to the application of the ironwood spell, that it would use the club prof instead of the bastard sword prof.  I disagree.  I'd say it would use the bastard sword prof - someone would be free to swing it like a club if they wished, but the normal -4 penalty would apply.I agree with MarcoDelVespuchi in that I also believe that the "free use" assertation is in refrence to druids not losing their supernatural abilities thru use Ironwooded items.  The item would revert to normal wood.  Using the bastard sword example, the weapon would become lighter (but not much), and would lose it's ability to keep an edge after repeated beating.  The balance wouldn't change, as that's a function of the shape rather than the material.  At a guess I'd probably give the weapon a -2 circumstance penalty to hit and damage unless the wielder had spend time training with the weapon both while and while not Ironwooded.  If they had trained that way, I'd remove the penalty to hit, but not to damage.  If the item was perminantly ironwood, via whatever means I'd say the ironwood property was suppressed ala a permenant magic item, rather than dispelled. Lightning Bolts don't require an attack roll reguardless of their source - you pick an area and the lightning manifests in that area. If there was a sword that had the ability to project some missle that you had to hit with, I'd say it would require a ranged touch attack.  the Throwing enchantment would allow an otherwise melee-only weapon to be imbued with other enchantments that are restricted to throwing weapons.  Distance and Returning for example.  No, the rules support neither argument, heh, their rather ambiguous on the matter, which is why we have to discuss it amongst ourselves.  ^_^Edit: minor cleanup - spacing made a wierd line break</blockquote>

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