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<blockquote data-quote="Kae'Yoss" data-source="post: 877776" data-attributes="member: 4134"><p>I agree with Sejs.</p><p></p><p>Not the material of the weapon determines what proficiency you have to use it, but the shape. A club will always remain a medium-size weapon with 1d6 damage and x2 crit, which can be thrown with a range increment of 10 ft. You can have a large club with more damage, but then it's a large club.</p><p></p><p>If you now have something that does 1d10 damage as medium-size weapon, and has a 19-20/x2 crit, and cannot be effectively thrown, you don't have a club anymore, and you can't use your proficiency with the club. You fight differently with such a weapon.</p><p></p><p>Now the ironwood spell gives an wooden object the consistency of steel, but a bastardsword-shaped item still requires bastard sword proficiency.</p><p></p><p>There is a magic weapon that's a bastardsword but can be used like a short sword (the sunblade, as kreynolds mentioned), but that is not due to any ability out of the lists, like frost, but a special ability that only that single weapon (the sunblade) has. You could create other specific weapons that are one type but can be used with another proficiency, but I wouldn't make a standard +x weapon ability out of it. Before long, even wizards would have marcurial greatswords as a backup weapon, and had no problems wielding it, because it's a +1 mercurial greatsword of dagger (or a +1 dagger of mercurial greatsword, depending on how you do the ability), and wizards are proficient with daggers. If you do such a thing, the price should be more than +1, for it doesn't only allow druids to use weapons they normaly shouldn't, it also eliminates the need to get exotic weapon proficiencies. Feats should be worth more than a +1 enhancement.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kae'Yoss, post: 877776, member: 4134"] I agree with Sejs. Not the material of the weapon determines what proficiency you have to use it, but the shape. A club will always remain a medium-size weapon with 1d6 damage and x2 crit, which can be thrown with a range increment of 10 ft. You can have a large club with more damage, but then it's a large club. If you now have something that does 1d10 damage as medium-size weapon, and has a 19-20/x2 crit, and cannot be effectively thrown, you don't have a club anymore, and you can't use your proficiency with the club. You fight differently with such a weapon. Now the ironwood spell gives an wooden object the consistency of steel, but a bastardsword-shaped item still requires bastard sword proficiency. There is a magic weapon that's a bastardsword but can be used like a short sword (the sunblade, as kreynolds mentioned), but that is not due to any ability out of the lists, like frost, but a special ability that only that single weapon (the sunblade) has. You could create other specific weapons that are one type but can be used with another proficiency, but I wouldn't make a standard +x weapon ability out of it. Before long, even wizards would have marcurial greatswords as a backup weapon, and had no problems wielding it, because it's a +1 mercurial greatsword of dagger (or a +1 dagger of mercurial greatsword, depending on how you do the ability), and wizards are proficient with daggers. If you do such a thing, the price should be more than +1, for it doesn't only allow druids to use weapons they normaly shouldn't, it also eliminates the need to get exotic weapon proficiencies. Feats should be worth more than a +1 enhancement. [/QUOTE]
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