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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 4520895" data-attributes="member: 158">Just because I'm insane:<a href="http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.frp.dnd/browse_thread/thread/563dac7c3e3ae4d/b04d11134e2efddd?hl=en&" target="_blank">[no subject] - rec.games.frp.dnd | Google Groups</a>Complaints about 3E's faults that seem a lot like 4e's lists of faults (the spells doing "damage and more damage", etc.)<a href="http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.frp.dnd/browse_frm/thread/e1ccc6e4a0966264/4a82ec85a5918db0?hl=en&tvc=1#4a82ec85a5918db0" target="_blank">rec.games.frp.dnd | Google Groups</a>Complaints about WotC having lots of splatbooks just like TSR did for each class<a href="http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.frp.dnd/browse_frm/thread/12bf8520d81994f1/bcd771ba8a9f546f?hl=en&tvc=1#bcd771ba8a9f546f" target="_blank">rec.games.frp.dnd | Google Groups</a>Complaint about Darkvision being easier for people weaned on computer roleplaying games to understand.<a href="http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.frp.dnd/browse_thread/thread/80b1f6e681d98a2d/db861aaac8ae3f1b?hl=en&lnk=st&q=#db861aaac8ae3f1b" target="_blank">Anime-style artifacts? - rec.games.frp.dnd | Google Groups</a>Thread poking fun at anime, and attempts to add Anime Style magic items into the new 3e game (not a 3e slam, but just a reminder that the more things change...)<a href="http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.frp.dnd/browse_thread/thread/43882824da8d9928/004f968a53782894?hl=en&lnk=st&q=#004f968a53782894" target="_blank">WAY TOO MUCH healing in 3E! - rec.games.frp.dnd | Google Groups</a>3rd edition slam by good old Halaster Blackcloak. Boy, seeing Halaster and Hong's names floating around in eight-year old threads really bring back memories...<a href="http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.frp.dnd/browse_frm/thread/3ba561cc344f5c58/00dc520349f421e0?hl=en&lnk=st&q=group%3Arec.games.frp.dnd#00dc520349f421e0" target="_blank">rec.games.frp.dnd | Google Groups</a>Pretty varied thread, goes from calm discussion to "unable to appreciate halfling cleric ninja wielding two rapiers thank you very much."Only a few, but there are some really cool rants and heavy discussions on rec.games.frp.dnd if you did into Google Groups Search a good bit. The problem is wading through, literally, tens of thousands of archived messages to find the really good "crash and burns", because people weren't as interested in archiving the "asshattery" threads the way people are on forums nowadays.Another thing to remember; this forum, in particular, was founded on a 3e-loving community; the differences between fans of 3E and 4E are going to seem more profound than other forums in existance at the time.  Anyone know how old the RPG.net community is, for instance? I didn't follow it until 2003, or so, but older communities (most of which were newsgroups-oriented in 1999-2000) are more likely to have a true accounting of some of the flame-laced rants going around at the time, as well as the more reasoned "I just prefer this" type of threads. One main difference, as you say: D&D was practically DEAD as a living, actively recruiting roleplaying game just prior to 1999; therefore, the base of players who didn't like what came before is going to be smaller than today's actively playing base of several million gamers. (What is the current estimate? 5 or 6 million worldwide versus 2.5 million in 1999?)</blockquote>

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