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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Little Raven" data-source="post: 4521565" data-attributes="member: 10095">I'm not particularly concerned when unsubstantiated claims made in an attempt to disparage the current edition are made by people who have a long history of disparaging said edition, usually in the form of hyperbole and outright falsehoods. If there was any substance to such claims, then by all means, actually present it. However, repeating the same unsubstantiated claim again and again doesn't actually give it substance.Let's see a 3e thread in which a 4e fan broadly insults all 3e fans by suggesting things about their intellectual capabilities, attention span, ages, or maturity, 'cause there are plenty of 4e threads in which 3e (and earlier) fans broadly insult all 4e fans by suggesting they aren't smart enough for a complex game, or have an attention deficit disorder, or are all 12-year-old Pokemon fans, or are just interested in OMG SUPERPOWERZ ARE TEH R0XX0RZ!I see 4e fans getting sick of it and standing up to that crap, and then we have people like ProfessorCirno acting like you're all victims.And to be clear, Irda, I'm not lumping you in with those people I have a problem with. While I do have some issues with claims you've made, you normally back them up with something of substance.</blockquote>