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<blockquote data-quote="ProfessorCirno" data-source="post: 4522743" data-attributes="member: 65637">I think there's a disparity here though, because you're stating that being related to WoW is a bad thing.&nbsp; As I said on the other thread, I've seen numerous posters here comment that new players say 4e reminds them of WoW, but they use it in a positive way.&nbsp; I wasn't here for the D&amp;D vs anime thing, but another poster stated that the discussion taught them how far people would go to deny even the smallest similarities.The thing is, &quot;WoW-like&quot; isn't a bad thing.&nbsp; WoW makes more money a day then some people will ever see in their lives.&nbsp; As someone who used to play it, it can be insanely fun.&nbsp; And right now, it's popular to the point of breaking though any old cliches about nerds and preps.&nbsp; I've seen football players talk to themselves about their WoW characters.&nbsp; Quite frankly, I'd be surprised if people didn't see something &quot;WoW-like&quot; in a game.But the crux is, &quot;WoW-like&quot; has been declared both a bad and a good thing at the same time.&nbsp; I've seen the same issue - and very much so - with &quot;the game is more simplified.&quot;&nbsp; The funny thing about &quot;The game is more simplified&quot; is that people - the SAME people - will either praise that statement or scowl and put it down all depending on which poster used it.&nbsp; Same statement.&nbsp; But when one poster says &quot;The game is very simplified,&quot; what's read is &quot;It's dumbed down.&quot;&nbsp; When another poster says &quot;The game is very simplified,&quot; what's read is &quot;It's not bloated and overly complex.&quot;So I guess the problem isn't that someone is saying the game is like WoW, the problem is that you're too stuck disagreeing with it to try and see where they're coming from.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ProfessorCirno, post: 4522743, member: 65637"] I think there's a disparity here though, because you're stating that being related to WoW is a bad thing. As I said on the other thread, I've seen numerous posters here comment that new players say 4e reminds them of WoW, but they use it in a positive way. I wasn't here for the D&D vs anime thing, but another poster stated that the discussion taught them how far people would go to deny even the smallest similarities. The thing is, "WoW-like" isn't a bad thing. WoW makes more money a day then some people will ever see in their lives. As someone who used to play it, it can be insanely fun. And right now, it's popular to the point of breaking though any old cliches about nerds and preps. I've seen football players talk to themselves about their WoW characters. Quite frankly, I'd be surprised if people [I]didn't[/I] see something "WoW-like" in a game. But the crux is, "WoW-like" has been declared both a bad and a good thing at the same time. I've seen the same issue - and very much so - with "the game is more simplified." The funny thing about "The game is more simplified" is that people - the SAME people - will either praise that statement or scowl and put it down all depending on which poster used it. Same statement. But when one poster says "The game is very simplified," what's read is "It's dumbed down." When another poster says "The game is very simplified," what's read is "It's not bloated and overly complex." So I guess the problem isn't that someone is saying the game is like WoW, the problem is that you're too stuck disagreeing with it to try and see where they're coming from. [/QUOTE]

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