Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="rounser" data-source="post: 1081455" data-attributes="member: 1106">Belenumera, I think you're correct in spirit (although I disagree with the specific arguments you make), but you won't find much agreement on this board.&nbsp; As I see it, here's 3E's payoff in a nutshell:1. People like the new rules because it gives more options, codification, and more opportunities for customisation.&nbsp; Without truly transcendental game design (4E?), more options and codification inevitably means more statting and rules chasing.2. Most 3E DMs admit to regularly skipping largish chunks of the rules (usually stats, especially feats and skill points), suggesting that the system has too much overhead for the way the game is actually played. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />3. Statting has become such a three-ring circus that it's come to involve computer programs, tables in the DMG and magazine articles and books dedicated to the stats of single baddies in order to circumvent this weakness in the system.4. I doubt this state of affairs will be corrected with 4E, but rather I expect it will be extended further down the path of rules overhead bloat (&quot;options, not restrictions&quot;), so you may as well jump ship now. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool&nbsp; &nbsp; :cool:"&nbsp; data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="rounser, post: 1081455, member: 1106"] Belenumera, I think you're correct in spirit (although I disagree with the specific arguments you make), but you won't find much agreement on this board. As I see it, here's 3E's payoff in a nutshell: 1. People like the new rules because it gives more options, codification, and more opportunities for customisation. Without truly transcendental game design (4E?), more options and codification inevitably means more statting and rules chasing. 2. Most 3E DMs admit to regularly skipping largish chunks of the rules (usually stats, especially feats and skill points), suggesting that the system has too much overhead for the way the game is actually played. :D 3. Statting has become such a three-ring circus that it's come to involve computer programs, tables in the DMG and magazine articles and books dedicated to the stats of single baddies in order to circumvent this weakness in the system. 4. I doubt this state of affairs will be corrected with 4E, but rather I expect it will be extended further down the path of rules overhead bloat ("options, not restrictions"), so you may as well jump ship now. :cool: [/QUOTE]

Verification