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<blockquote data-quote="Zappo" data-source="post: 1972198" data-attributes="member: 633">About the level names - I really disagree there. The level names IMO were never a good idea. Why should a third level rogue (or whatever) be called &quot;a cat burglar&quot;, even if he has never broken into a house in his life? How do these titles help, if they are usually incorrect? Or, let's talk about the old wizard and fighter titles - since most of them are just synonims for &quot;wizard&quot; and &quot;fighter&quot;, how are they any indication of the character's skill?&nbsp;&nbsp;The problem you encountered in describing a king hiring a higher level group wouldn't be solved by titles IMO. &quot;Instead of hiring a thug, I hired a burglar&quot; - that might be flavorful (though I'd disagree), but it doesn't really tell anything about the experience of the person involved, and it may actually be wrong.&nbsp;&nbsp;The real, flavorful solution is &quot;The random cutpurse I picked up at the tavern and the spellcaster fresh out of wizard school were no use, so I went to the royal prisons, and told the warden to pick up the best thief they had and promise him freedom in return for help. He came upstairs with Slick Jim, the guy who tried to steal the Crown Jewels two years ago. Went through the main door in disguise, sneaked past the guards, avoided all the traps, got right in front of the display. He would have succeded too, if it weren't for the magical wards surrounding them. This time, he'll have to do better, so I got him some real magical backup - the court wizard Zanakel. He's the man who placed those wards, you know. He used to be an adventuring mage, and some action will do him good&quot;.&nbsp;&nbsp;Why should I rely on the ruleset to provide flavor? Give me clarity instead. I don't need rules to make flavor.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zappo, post: 1972198, member: 633"] About the level names - I really disagree there. The level names IMO were never a good idea. Why should a third level rogue (or whatever) be called "a cat burglar", even if he has never broken into a house in his life? How do these titles help, if they are usually incorrect? Or, let's talk about the old wizard and fighter titles - since most of them are just synonims for "wizard" and "fighter", how are they any indication of the character's skill? The problem you encountered in describing a king hiring a higher level group wouldn't be solved by titles IMO. "Instead of hiring a thug, I hired a burglar" - that might be flavorful (though I'd disagree), but it doesn't really tell anything about the experience of the person involved, and it may actually be wrong. The real, flavorful solution is "The random cutpurse I picked up at the tavern and the spellcaster fresh out of wizard school were no use, so I went to the royal prisons, and told the warden to pick up the best thief they had and promise him freedom in return for help. He came upstairs with Slick Jim, the guy who tried to steal the Crown Jewels two years ago. Went through the main door in disguise, sneaked past the guards, avoided all the traps, got right in front of the display. He would have succeded too, if it weren't for the magical wards surrounding them. This time, he'll have to do better, so I got him some real magical backup - the court wizard Zanakel. He's the man who placed those wards, you know. He used to be an adventuring mage, and some action will do him good". Why should I rely on the ruleset to provide flavor? Give me clarity instead. I don't need rules to make flavor. [/QUOTE]

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