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<blockquote data-quote="Felon" data-source="post: 4689054" data-attributes="member: 8158">I'm not saying anything that industry insiders like Ryan Dancey haven't said themselves in public forums. I don't know why you're surprised. D&amp;D's popularity and sales handily eclipse every other RPG. White Wolf is in second place, but it's a distant second.As to my friends, I have no idea why you're gobsmacked. Maybe you can't imagine having other things to do with your free time (and I don't begrudge you that), but understand that's not a universal situation. For my friends, D&amp;D was their gateway game. It didn't seem to them to be any improvement, and in fact a lot of stuff they liked was scrapped. To shell out cash for new books as well as the interest to learn a bunch of new rules, it's not good enough to argue that 4e's no worse than other editions of D&amp;D (a fact that many pro-4e pundits in this forum would do well to note). Rather, 4e has to show that's an overall improvement, and for many that's not the case.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Felon, post: 4689054, member: 8158"] I'm not saying anything that industry insiders like Ryan Dancey haven't said themselves in public forums. I don't know why you're surprised. D&D's popularity and sales handily eclipse every other RPG. White Wolf is in second place, but it's a distant second. As to my friends, I have no idea why you're gobsmacked. Maybe you can't imagine having other things to do with your free time (and I don't begrudge you that), but understand that's not a universal situation. For my friends, D&D was their gateway game. It didn't seem to them to be any improvement, and in fact a lot of stuff they liked was scrapped. To shell out cash for new books as well as the interest to learn a bunch of new rules, it's not good enough to argue that 4e's no worse than other editions of D&D (a fact that many pro-4e pundits in this forum would do well to note). Rather, 4e has to show that's an overall improvement, and for many that's not the case. [/QUOTE]

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