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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fallen Seraph" data-source="post: 4477952" data-attributes="member: 57894">Perform though is what I was talking about with the Profession bracket in my post. It doesn't make sense to either myself or my group that being able to perform something should be based on some non-existent thing (in that, you can't say "I have the physical/mental capability of perform") and not actual physical skills the character knows.Thus why we absolutely adore using Skill Challenges for things like Perform, it also makes it more then a simple dice roll. Like we have had a Skill Challenge where a PC was trying to attract the crows and we had it going back and forth and I as the DM could counter Skill Challenge to see if he can keep the crowd.To make it more interesting, my rolls would be secret but I would describe the effect, so if I made a Insight roll and it was a success, the crowd would jeer him for being say skittish. If he recognizes it and on his turn uses a Skill to counter this, then he gains a bonus to his roll. At the end of it, if he succeeds he manages to keep the crowd entertained, if not he doesn't.</blockquote>