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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Darkthorne" data-source="post: 4478414" data-attributes="member: 60783">Kzach,I'd appreciate if you stopped with the "you're complaining" rhetoric, it's inflammitory. If you read my post I cleary stated not using any splat books in my comparison, so no not 8 years worth of product, just  3.5 PHB vs 4E PHB nothing more in regards to the choice of spells. I do like 4E but I am not about to say it's perfect, just stating what I see as obvious issues. If you have to wait 8 years for one version to match a previous one's for versatility (not ease or play or anything else) just on the core PHB then something IS amiss. If 4e is the second coming for you, awesome. I'm glad you're having fun with it, but that does not mean that anyone else that finds it lacking is a bunch or complainers/whiners.Thank You</blockquote>