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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Benimoto" data-source="post: 4478466" data-attributes="member: 40093">I was just making a new 3.5e character this last weekend to play a Pathfinder scenario (which still uses the 3.5 rules now) and I have to say, that while 3.x gives you more choices than 4e, a lot more of them are "false choices".For example, while you can theoretically pick any of the 39ish spells as your 2-3 choices at first level, only 4 of them do any sort of direct damage.  About another 12-17 are reasonable non-damaging choices by my estimation, and then the rest are stuff like erase or hold portal, which while they might be useful on scrolls or something later, are way too narrowly focused to be a good choice for a 1st level caster.Pathfinder adventures are pretty combat-heavy, so I'd really want to have a damaging spell, and of the 4, probably magic missile, since it's the only ranged one and I have like 5 HP.  And then I have another 1-2 spell picks, but they're coming off a pretty small list too.And then, after about 4 rounds of combat, I'm out of spells and my versatility is reduced to making potshots with my crossbow, while the 4e wizard still has 2-3 at wills.So yeah, 3e theoretically has a lot more versatility, but when it counts, it only has a little more, and sometimes even less.</blockquote>