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<blockquote data-quote="Darkthorne" data-source="post: 4478672" data-attributes="member: 60783">Irda,I agree with you that a good number of previous spells would convert into rituals for 4e that is why I didn't add them in a previous post I had. As for the duplication which I speak of is 3 human wizards have 3 at will powers, there are only 5 at will choices in the phb, you have 9 slots to fill. With only 2 wizards 1 power will be duplicated, once you add the third wizard every at will he picks will already be chosen. I also do agree 3.5 wizards would almost always take 1 spell across the board (mage armor from my experience) that would result in duplication, but you had the choice of more than 5 spells that you could cast more than once. The dmg I find lacking in material for the cost ($35 for 320 pages of the phb, same 35$ for the 224 pages of the dmg) That's a 30% volume difference! The magic items could have easily fit in there w/o the removal of anything. As for more at will I think it would have been better to go up to possibly 6 at will powers by the end of your pc's career. Also being able to get more than just one [insert level choice] encounter or daily power I think could have added to 4E versatility. Again I want to repeat I do like 4E (being a DM is easier, clerics are better, warlocks did well in the conversion) but I think more could have been added up front</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Darkthorne, post: 4478672, member: 60783"] Irda, I agree with you that a good number of previous spells would convert into rituals for 4e that is why I didn't add them in a previous post I had. As for the duplication which I speak of is 3 human wizards have 3 at will powers, there are only 5 at will choices in the phb, you have 9 slots to fill. With only 2 wizards 1 power will be duplicated, once you add the third wizard every at will he picks will already be chosen. I also do agree 3.5 wizards would almost always take 1 spell across the board (mage armor from my experience) that would result in duplication, but you had the choice of more than 5 spells that you could cast more than once. The dmg I find lacking in material for the cost ($35 for 320 pages of the phb, same 35$ for the 224 pages of the dmg) That's a 30% volume difference! The magic items could have easily fit in there w/o the removal of anything. As for more at will I think it would have been better to go up to possibly 6 at will powers by the end of your pc's career. Also being able to get more than just one [insert level choice] encounter or daily power I think could have added to 4E versatility. Again I want to repeat I do like 4E (being a DM is easier, clerics are better, warlocks did well in the conversion) but I think more could have been added up front [/QUOTE]

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