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<blockquote data-quote="SenseiMike" data-source="post: 4479659" data-attributes="member: 77571"><p>I never agreed with that ruling in 1E either. What's to prevent a Paladin from using a longbow or any ranged weapon? Nor did I agree to the limitations on the Clerics - why are blunt weapons more acceptable than bladed ones? </p><p> </p><p>But these situations were fixable with some basic house rules. In 1E, you do that and I seriously doubt you'd make Paladins or Clerics that much more powerful, even if suddenly they got access to magical weapons previously denied to them. And allowing free reign for the Paladin to choose his armor as he saw fit whether or not he could afford Plate was not going to be imbalancing to the game. </p><p> </p><p>4E, on the other hand, has made the classes even more rigid than 1E designers could've ever dreamed of. You no longer can make the dedicated archer Fighter if you wanted; a military man who was not the tracker that the Ranger was. The 4E Fighter's powers are all built around melee weapons and STR based attacks. 4E players have told me to make him into a Ranger. I have a L22 Paladin character from 3E that's more of a swashbuckler than a straight out fighter that I cannot possibly translate into a Paladin in 4E for similar reasons; I was told to make him into either a Rogue or a Ranger! People have said to me that 4E will likely address this situation in the future with new books and updates, but of course, this wasn't the situation when 2E went to 3E. Sure, I couldn't bring a Wu-Jen from 2E to 3E initially, but most character classes were there and could easily be converted with some limitations. 4E doesn't let me play the character I want to play.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SenseiMike, post: 4479659, member: 77571"] I never agreed with that ruling in 1E either. What's to prevent a Paladin from using a longbow or any ranged weapon? Nor did I agree to the limitations on the Clerics - why are blunt weapons more acceptable than bladed ones? But these situations were fixable with some basic house rules. In 1E, you do that and I seriously doubt you'd make Paladins or Clerics that much more powerful, even if suddenly they got access to magical weapons previously denied to them. And allowing free reign for the Paladin to choose his armor as he saw fit whether or not he could afford Plate was not going to be imbalancing to the game. 4E, on the other hand, has made the classes even more rigid than 1E designers could've ever dreamed of. You no longer can make the dedicated archer Fighter if you wanted; a military man who was not the tracker that the Ranger was. The 4E Fighter's powers are all built around melee weapons and STR based attacks. 4E players have told me to make him into a Ranger. I have a L22 Paladin character from 3E that's more of a swashbuckler than a straight out fighter that I cannot possibly translate into a Paladin in 4E for similar reasons; I was told to make him into either a Rogue or a Ranger! People have said to me that 4E will likely address this situation in the future with new books and updates, but of course, this wasn't the situation when 2E went to 3E. Sure, I couldn't bring a Wu-Jen from 2E to 3E initially, but most character classes were there and could easily be converted with some limitations. 4E doesn't let me play the character I want to play. [/QUOTE]
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