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<blockquote data-quote="Herremann the Wise" data-source="post: 4481366" data-attributes="member: 11300">I agree with some of what you said but not all...However, I think you raise an interesting point here in regards to exceptions based design. Based on the Mike Mearls interview (Theory from the Closet Podcast), the aim of this was to produce a similar scenario as you find in Magic the Gathering (also a fine example of exceptions-based design).The aim is to have a game where if you know a few basic things (such as &quot;defender&quot; or &quot;Flying&quot; in MtG or &quot;Burst&quot; in D&amp;D4E), then the game can run itself without referring to the rules or books (pretty funny actually if you consider the reference book style of 4E and whether such an approach was necessary). In MtG, all the information was on the cards. in D&amp;D4E, all the information a player needs to know is on their character sheet. The need to refer to the PHB is taken away (or at least they have tried to design so that the PHB as Mike Mearls says is something that you look at in between gaming sessions, or if you are about to level up).To my mind, this approach makes 4E feel more like a game and a little less like D&amp;D. However, I'm sure for some, the absence of rules referral means that they can focus on the what's being role-played, rather than how it's being role-played. For them, 4E is a big step in their direction - and thus why more than any other edition transition, we have seen a far greater degree of acceptance/non-acceptance than previous transitions. I think I'm only one of a few that I've seen on these boards who would genuinely be in the middle regarding the transition to 4E. Most here seem to be quite polarized.Best RegardsHerremann the Wise</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Herremann the Wise, post: 4481366, member: 11300"] I agree with some of what you said but not all... However, I think you raise an interesting point here in regards to exceptions based design. Based on the Mike Mearls interview (Theory from the Closet Podcast), the aim of this was to produce a similar scenario as you find in Magic the Gathering (also a fine example of exceptions-based design). The aim is to have a game where if you know a few basic things (such as "defender" or "Flying" in MtG or "Burst" in D&D4E), then the game can run itself without referring to the rules or books (pretty funny actually if you consider the reference book style of 4E and whether such an approach was necessary). In MtG, all the information was on the cards. in D&D4E, all the information a player needs to know is on their character sheet. The need to refer to the PHB is taken away (or at least they have tried to design so that the PHB as Mike Mearls says is something that you look at in between gaming sessions, or if you are about to level up). To my mind, this approach makes 4E feel more like a game and a little less like D&D. However, I'm sure for some, the absence of rules referral means that they can focus on the what's being role-played, rather than how it's being role-played. For them, 4E is a big step in their direction - and thus why more than any other edition transition, we have seen a far greater degree of acceptance/non-acceptance than previous transitions. I think I'm only one of a few that I've seen on these boards who would genuinely be in the middle regarding the transition to 4E. Most here seem to be quite polarized. Best Regards Herremann the Wise [/QUOTE]

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