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<blockquote data-quote="BASHMAN" data-source="post: 4200177" data-attributes="member: 8277">A point of clarification: BECM really stands for &quot;Best Edition Creatyed by Man&quot; and BE D&amp;D is Best Edition D&amp;D&quot;&nbsp; Not everyone agrees, but they have always been my favorites.Now, does 4e capture its spirit... sometimes, in a few little ways, but on the whole, I don't think so.&nbsp; Too many &quot;kewl powerz&quot;, different types of actions, etc.&nbsp; Some people see options, I see limits [any ability that specifically says you can do something means that is one more thing that other people explicitly cannot do unless they have said ability]. This killed fun and took its stuff on several occasions in 3.5 (&quot;I swing down and grab the princess from the pit, and swing her onto the ledge&quot;. &quot;No he cannot do that-- he doesn't have spring attack-- since he is moving, then taking a standard, then moving again, here on page yada yada yada&quot;. 2nd ed, or Basic, or OSRIC, or C&amp;C, etc this would just be done by the DM deciding for you to make a Dex check... You might think, well 4E they will just say, make an acrobatics check-- but it would be a move to swing down, a standard to grab the girl, and another move to keep swinging.&nbsp;&nbsp; Even though&nbsp; 4E will have less rules, it still will be too rules heavy to me...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BASHMAN, post: 4200177, member: 8277"] A point of clarification: BECM really stands for "Best Edition Creatyed by Man" and BE D&D is Best Edition D&D" Not everyone agrees, but they have always been my favorites. Now, does 4e capture its spirit... sometimes, in a few little ways, but on the whole, I don't think so. Too many "kewl powerz", different types of actions, etc. Some people see options, I see limits [any ability that specifically says you can do something means that is one more thing that other people explicitly cannot do unless they have said ability]. This killed fun and took its stuff on several occasions in 3.5 ("I swing down and grab the princess from the pit, and swing her onto the ledge". "No he cannot do that-- he doesn't have spring attack-- since he is moving, then taking a standard, then moving again, here on page yada yada yada". 2nd ed, or Basic, or OSRIC, or C&C, etc this would just be done by the DM deciding for you to make a Dex check... You might think, well 4E they will just say, make an acrobatics check-- but it would be a move to swing down, a standard to grab the girl, and another move to keep swinging. Even though 4E will have less rules, it still will be too rules heavy to me... [/QUOTE]

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