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<blockquote data-quote="apoptosis" data-source="post: 4284993" data-attributes="member: 3226"><p>I would say definitely No.</p><p></p><p>I have played so many fantasy RPGs over the years (T&T, RM, Dragonquest, Fantasy wargaming, etc.) that the separation between D&D and other games was based on a lot of the little oddities and mechanics D&D had (aka sacred cows).</p><p></p><p>If I wanted to play D&D it means I wanted to play a game with these elements. 3E seemed to veer off a bit but was still D&D (to the imaginary and arbitrary line that i drew).</p><p></p><p>4E has lost a lot of those mechanics. There is not much that connects 4E with traditional D&D that is not shared by a multitude of other fantasty RPGs. </p><p></p><p>IOW: It does not seem to have (m)any discriminatory elements that are unique to traditional D&D and not share by many other other fantasy RPGs.</p><p></p><p>Still seems to be a well-designed game though. I think you can play traditional D&D modules and dungeoncrawls with it and they will probably be fun. It wont feel like D&D (closer to D&D than The Shadow of Yesterday or Burning Wheel but farther away than Palladium or Tunnels and Trolls)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="apoptosis, post: 4284993, member: 3226"] I would say definitely No. I have played so many fantasy RPGs over the years (T&T, RM, Dragonquest, Fantasy wargaming, etc.) that the separation between D&D and other games was based on a lot of the little oddities and mechanics D&D had (aka sacred cows). If I wanted to play D&D it means I wanted to play a game with these elements. 3E seemed to veer off a bit but was still D&D (to the imaginary and arbitrary line that i drew). 4E has lost a lot of those mechanics. There is not much that connects 4E with traditional D&D that is not shared by a multitude of other fantasty RPGs. IOW: It does not seem to have (m)any discriminatory elements that are unique to traditional D&D and not share by many other other fantasy RPGs. Still seems to be a well-designed game though. I think you can play traditional D&D modules and dungeoncrawls with it and they will probably be fun. It wont feel like D&D (closer to D&D than The Shadow of Yesterday or Burning Wheel but farther away than Palladium or Tunnels and Trolls) [/QUOTE]
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