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<blockquote data-quote="renau1g" data-source="post: 5646686" data-attributes="member: 54810">I found from LFR modules when I used to run them, they were far too easy for players with any level of experience. Any minimal level of optimization resulted in the players steam-rolling the enemies (now this was before MM3 updates mind you) and the Essentials classes (like the Thief and Slayer) are pretty optimized out of the box so even inexperienced players do well with them. Adding in themes recently only exacerbated the problem I'd imagine (I love them in Dark Sun because they have a great reason for being there, not so much elsewhere).I can't comment specifically on the Game Day adventure, but it always seemed that WotC was afraid to make challenging encounters in the LFR modules, where enemies had superior terrain advantage or anything that required the players think. It was almost always players on one side of the &quot;arena&quot; (or forest, or plain, etc) and the monsters on the other. Each side charges the other and then slogs it out. The PC's will almost always win those type of fights handily with their greater access to powers/healing/options. So yeah. I stopped running the LFR modules and stopped going because it was a joke, no challenge = no risk = no fun.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="renau1g, post: 5646686, member: 54810"] I found from LFR modules when I used to run them, they were far too easy for players with any level of experience. Any minimal level of optimization resulted in the players steam-rolling the enemies (now this was before MM3 updates mind you) and the Essentials classes (like the Thief and Slayer) are pretty optimized out of the box so even inexperienced players do well with them. Adding in themes recently only exacerbated the problem I'd imagine (I love them in Dark Sun because they have a great reason for being there, not so much elsewhere). I can't comment specifically on the Game Day adventure, but it always seemed that WotC was afraid to make challenging encounters in the LFR modules, where enemies had superior terrain advantage or anything that required the players think. It was almost always players on one side of the "arena" (or forest, or plain, etc) and the monsters on the other. Each side charges the other and then slogs it out. The PC's will almost always win those type of fights handily with their greater access to powers/healing/options. So yeah. I stopped running the LFR modules and stopped going because it was a joke, no challenge = no risk = no fun. [/QUOTE]

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