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<blockquote data-quote="mhacdebhandia" data-source="post: 3784736" data-attributes="member: 18832"><p>Fourth Edition is definitely winning me.</p><p></p><p>I'm the sort of person who doesn't resent changes to something I like when it doesn't mean that thing is going away, or getting something new and different when the old and comfortable things are still around.</p><p></p><p>What this means is that a lot of the flavour changes I've been hearing about don't bother me, even though I'm a big fan of Planescape and its cosmological assumptions (for example).</p><p></p><p>I guess what I'm saying is that, even if I prefer succubi and erinyes as distinct entities on opposite sides of the Blood War (and I picked this example because I <strong>don't</strong> have strong feelings either way about the change), the fact that Fourth Edition's core rules will be doing something different doesn't bother me at all.</p><p></p><p>To me, complaining about it would be a bit like complaining that <em>Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay</em>'s orcs don't worship Gruumsh - of course they don't, "orc" isn't something which means something specific across every game which has a race of monsters called orcs, and most of the "traditional flavour" of <em>Dungeons & Dragons</em> has been historically just as mutable between editions and settings as it promises to be over the Third-Fourth change.</p><p></p><p>Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I've always been baffled by the idea that certain things should be the same in two different settings - why should Greyhawk's drow and the Forgotten Realms' drow be the same, to say nothing of Eberron drow? - and a fan of settings which deliberately <strong>reject</strong> that idea and use familiar elements in different ways.</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile, everything I'm hearing about the actual game mechanics thrills me. That sounds like hyperbole, but I'm serious: I'm seriously excited by the picture that's beginning to take shape in my head.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mhacdebhandia, post: 3784736, member: 18832"] Fourth Edition is definitely winning me. I'm the sort of person who doesn't resent changes to something I like when it doesn't mean that thing is going away, or getting something new and different when the old and comfortable things are still around. What this means is that a lot of the flavour changes I've been hearing about don't bother me, even though I'm a big fan of Planescape and its cosmological assumptions (for example). I guess what I'm saying is that, even if I prefer succubi and erinyes as distinct entities on opposite sides of the Blood War (and I picked this example because I [b]don't[/b] have strong feelings either way about the change), the fact that Fourth Edition's core rules will be doing something different doesn't bother me at all. To me, complaining about it would be a bit like complaining that [i]Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay[/i]'s orcs don't worship Gruumsh - of course they don't, "orc" isn't something which means something specific across every game which has a race of monsters called orcs, and most of the "traditional flavour" of [i]Dungeons & Dragons[/i] has been historically just as mutable between editions and settings as it promises to be over the Third-Fourth change. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I've always been baffled by the idea that certain things should be the same in two different settings - why should Greyhawk's drow and the Forgotten Realms' drow be the same, to say nothing of Eberron drow? - and a fan of settings which deliberately [b]reject[/b] that idea and use familiar elements in different ways. Meanwhile, everything I'm hearing about the actual game mechanics thrills me. That sounds like hyperbole, but I'm serious: I'm seriously excited by the picture that's beginning to take shape in my head. [/QUOTE]
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