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<blockquote data-quote="Crazy Jerome" data-source="post: 3785121" data-attributes="member: 54877"><p>My heart isn't tangled up in this at all. I didn't predict a particular time for 4E, but I wasn't terribly surprised by the announcement, either. I have not been impressed by the, well, "verve" of WotC products since 3.5 was launched. I think the staff has become steadily better at producing good mechanics, while the fluff and spice has been lacking. (Most likely, some of it is lacking because it isn't that good, and some of it is lacking from my perspective because I'm not interested in the same things they are. By definition, kind of hard for me to objectively say which cause applies in any particular case.) So I'm cold-blooded about the whole thing. 4E will be what it will be. The initial part of it will probably have some really good mechanics. I'll eventually get it, and supply my own verve. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> Thus, no rollercoaster of emotions for me, and individual teasers let out by the design staff don't change that.</p><p></p><p>My head is interested in the design enough to finally entice me into registering on ENWorld, after lurking here since Eric started this place. Whatever else the changes will be, the discussion about them will be interesting. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p>I will admit that some of the over-the-top "chicken-little" reaction has create a small pool of goodwill for 4E. The game could be greater than the sum of its parts, or it could go the other way. I prefer to wait to see how well all the changes fit together, before I get emotionally involved. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Crazy Jerome, post: 3785121, member: 54877"] My heart isn't tangled up in this at all. I didn't predict a particular time for 4E, but I wasn't terribly surprised by the announcement, either. I have not been impressed by the, well, "verve" of WotC products since 3.5 was launched. I think the staff has become steadily better at producing good mechanics, while the fluff and spice has been lacking. (Most likely, some of it is lacking because it isn't that good, and some of it is lacking from my perspective because I'm not interested in the same things they are. By definition, kind of hard for me to objectively say which cause applies in any particular case.) So I'm cold-blooded about the whole thing. 4E will be what it will be. The initial part of it will probably have some really good mechanics. I'll eventually get it, and supply my own verve. :p Thus, no rollercoaster of emotions for me, and individual teasers let out by the design staff don't change that. My head is interested in the design enough to finally entice me into registering on ENWorld, after lurking here since Eric started this place. Whatever else the changes will be, the discussion about them will be interesting. :D I will admit that some of the over-the-top "chicken-little" reaction has create a small pool of goodwill for 4E. The game could be greater than the sum of its parts, or it could go the other way. I prefer to wait to see how well all the changes fit together, before I get emotionally involved. :D [/QUOTE]
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