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<blockquote data-quote="Cadfan" data-source="post: 3819717" data-attributes="member: 40961">No, its really not.I mean, honestly, how is it?&nbsp; You walk around a corner, there's a lich.&nbsp; He says, &quot;WAIL OF THE BANSHEE!!!!&quot;&nbsp; You roll a fort save at DC 30.&nbsp; The wizard in the party has a 6 base fortitude save, +4 constitution, and a +5 cloak of resistance.&nbsp; So he's at +15.&nbsp; He needs a 15 or better.&nbsp; Same problem for the rogue.&nbsp; The cleric and the fighter are a bit better off, they just need a 9 or better.Statistically, over half the party dies.WOOT!&nbsp; That was heroic!&nbsp; Or rather it wasn't.So the two remaining party members do their thing, and the next round the lich proclaims loudly, &quot;WAIL OF THE BANSHEE I MEMORIZED IT TWICE SUCKAS!&quot;Yeah...Now, lets think of a way to make this heroic for real.&nbsp; What if the lich had, I don't know, some method of attacking the party which posed a credible risk of killing the characters, but didn't do them all in with one spell and one die roll?&nbsp; In such a case, drama could build, risk could mount, the party could become fearful for their characters survival, better in-game tactics could lead to characters lasting longer while poor tactics dooms the foolish, and when the final blow comes that drops a character, everyone knows that it was after a good, dramatic fight.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cadfan, post: 3819717, member: 40961"] No, its really not. I mean, honestly, how is it? You walk around a corner, there's a lich. He says, "WAIL OF THE BANSHEE!!!!" You roll a fort save at DC 30. The wizard in the party has a 6 base fortitude save, +4 constitution, and a +5 cloak of resistance. So he's at +15. He needs a 15 or better. Same problem for the rogue. The cleric and the fighter are a bit better off, they just need a 9 or better. Statistically, over half the party dies. WOOT! That was heroic! Or rather it wasn't. So the two remaining party members do their thing, and the next round the lich proclaims loudly, "WAIL OF THE BANSHEE I MEMORIZED IT TWICE SUCKAS!" Yeah... Now, lets think of a way to make this heroic for real. What if the lich had, I don't know, some method of attacking the party which posed a credible risk of killing the characters, [I]but didn't do them all in with one spell and one die roll?[/I] In such a case, drama could build, risk could mount, the party could become fearful for their characters survival, better in-game tactics could lead to characters lasting longer while poor tactics dooms the foolish, and when the final blow comes that drops a character, everyone knows that it was after a good, dramatic fight. [/QUOTE]

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